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video problem ? with lenove M710q in mx23 and updated mx21

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video problem ? with lenove M710q in mx23 and updated mx21

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2025 4:08 pm
by Frances_mnb
I have a working + fully upto date mx25 (32 bit) that works on all my various Lenovo machine eg X200s but not on my think centre M710q
it will start up gets as far as beginning to display the home screen in that the time briefly appears in top left corner but gets no further before giving a blank screen though the mouse cursor is present
I think the same problem occurs on some non Lenovo machines as I built a MX25 system for my brother and sent him the SSD harddrive to replace a working MX19 on an old laptop used to play music. - the MX25 works on my old Lenovos + an old acer laptop but not the M710q

the same thing happens to an updated version of MX21.3 constructed from a year old dvd works fine but not after an update - same fault as above - this from the MX21.3 pre update

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System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-20-amd64 [5.10.158-2] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-20-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.18.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.18.0 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower January 15  2023 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Mini-pc System: LENOVO product: 10MR000XUK v: ThinkCentre M710q serial: <filter> 
           Chassis: type: 35 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: LENOVO model: 3111 v: SDK0J40697 WIN 3305072648427 serial: <filter> 
           UEFI-[Legacy]: LENOVO v: M1AKT59A date: 10/27/2023 
CPU:       Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-7400T bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Kaby Lake family: 6 
           model-id: 9E (158) stepping: 9 microcode: F0 cache: L2: 6 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 19200 
           Speed: 900 MHz min/max: 800/3000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 900 2: 900 3: 900 4: 900 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
           Type: retbleed mitigation: IBRS 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 630 vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 
           chip-ID: 8086:5912 class-ID: 0300 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.0x11.2") 
           s-diag: 582mm (22.9") 
           Monitor-1: DP-3 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102 size: 477x268mm (18.8x10.6") 
           diag: 547mm (21.5") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 630 (KBL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 200 Series PCH HD Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:a2f0 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-20-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-V vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: kernel port: f040 
           bus-ID: 00:1f.6 chip-ID: 8086:15b8 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Intel Wireless 8265 / 8275 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl port: f040 
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:24fd class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 
           bus-ID: 1-3:2 chip-ID: 8087:0a2b class-ID: e001 
           Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.2 
           sub-v: 100 hci-v: 4.2 rev: 100 
           Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff 
           link-mode: slave accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 5.75 GiB (2.4%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: MZ7LN256HCHP-000L7 size: 238.47 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> 
           rev: 3L6Q scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 230.47 GiB size: 225.79 GiB (97.97%) used: 5.75 GiB (2.5%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda2 
           maj-min: 8:2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 21.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1967 lib: 989 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 208 Uptime: 3m wakeups: 1 Memory: 15.52 GiB used: 1.05 GiB (6.8%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Re: video problem ? with lenove M710q in mx23 and updated mx21

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2025 6:24 pm
by j2mcgreg
I think I know why:

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Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)
Your 710q is a UEFI machine, yet you have done a legacy install. CSM is an emulator built into UEFI specifically designed to allow users to roll back to Windows 7 from Windows 8, 8.1, and the early builds of Windows 10. It was never meant for use with another OS like Linux. If you do perform a CSM install with Linux, it may seem to work at first, but it will quickly go sideways.

Re: video problem ? with lenove M710q in mx23 and updated mx21

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:01 am
by Frances_mnb
not sure I understand your reply (beyond my paygrade?) - I tend to go for legacy boots as have a number of old Lenovo laptops and tend to use different machines for different functions (eg I do a lot of archival transcribing - one machine holds photos and I transcribe on another with a third holding a master database) as well as being able to move harddrives between geographically separate machines (they are lighter to move! and I regularly commute 10hr journeys by public transport) - the bios on the M710q offers option to allow legacy boots.

Re: video problem ? with lenove M710q in mx23 and updated mx21

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:20 am
by j2mcgreg
Frances_mnb wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:01 am not sure I understand your reply (beyond my paygrade?) - I tend to go for legacy boots as have a number of old Lenovo laptops and tend to use different machines for different functions (eg I do a lot of archival transcribing - one machine holds photos and I transcribe on another with a third holding a master database) as well as being able to move harddrives between geographically separate machines (they are lighter to move! and I regularly commute 10hr journeys by public transport) - the bios on the M710q offers option to allow legacy boots.
In the instance of a UEFI Set Up Utility "Legacy" has been reinterpreted to mean that a user could roll back the operating system specifically to Windows 7. It does not mean an MBR install as defined by Linux.
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