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[SOLVED] mx19.2 live usb not running properly

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:56 am
by wellsey
I am trying to upgrade 18.3 to 19.2 have downloaded the 19.2 iso from a mirror, md5 checked it and used mx tool's live usb maker to create the usb.

When i boot the usb I get a screen which looks correct with option to boot 19.2 x64 dated 31-May-2020

However when clicked I end up with an empty desktop with background being the blue xfce mouse wallpaper and no icons or panels, if I right click I get a menu and I can open the desktop in thunar and see the install icon . If I click it, it runs and hangs. If I open a terminal and kill minstall and do sudo minstall in the terminal I can see it hanging after it has displayed the partitions on my system

any ideas please?

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System:    Host: mx Kernel: 5.1.0-6.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 
           Distro: MX-18.3_x64 Continuum March 14  2018 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Latitude E4310 v: 0001 serial: <root required> 
           Mobo: Dell model: 0D8H24 v: A00 serial: <root required> BIOS: Dell v: A06 
           date: 02/15/2011 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 46.5 Wh condition: 46.5/48.8 Wh (95%) 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5 M 560 bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
           L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           Speed: 2926 MHz min/max: 1199/2667 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2922 2: 2937 3: 2926 
           4: 2935 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1366x768~60Hz, 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Mobile v: 2.1 Mesa 18.2.6 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-2: Logitech Webcam C270 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.1.0-6.1-liquorix-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel 82577LM Gigabit Network driver: e1000e 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 5c:26:0a:4a:f6:f1 
           Device-2: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200 driver: iwlwifi 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: 18:3d:a2:28:b5:28 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 223.57 GiB used: 71.64 GiB (32.0%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: SanDisk model: SDSSDA240G size: 223.57 GiB 
RAID:      Hardware-1: Intel 82801 Mobile SATA Controller [RAID mode] driver: ahci 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 108.98 GiB used: 71.64 GiB (65.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 6.35 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 80.0 C mobo: N/A sodimm: 49.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 3098 
Info:      Processes: 231 Uptime: N/A Memory: 7.59 GiB used: 1.59 GiB (20.9%) Shell: bash 
           inxi: 3.0.36 

Re: mx19.2 live usb not running properly

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:18 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
Sometimes trying another usb stick solves such weird issues.

Also, if there's such an option, can you change sata mode to Ahci in Bios? (Assuming you don't have Windows installed)

Re: mx19.2 live usb not running properly

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:24 pm
by asqwerth
After you chose the option to preserve /home during installation, did you choose the option to save your old /home folder or partition under another name?

Or did you give yourself a different user name for your new installation?

It might also help the experts here if you post the contents of /var/log/minstall.log

Re: mx19.2 live usb not running properly

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:27 pm
by dolphin_oracle
there is something wrong. it sound like the xfdesktop isn't starting. and possibly xfce4-session as well.

you should get a live-usb working before bothering with the installer.

Re: mx19.2 live usb not running properly

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:59 pm
by m_frank
wellsey wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:56 am :
When i boot the usb I get a screen which looks correct with option to boot 19.2 x64 dated 31-May-2020

However when clicked I end up with an empty desktop with background being the blue xfce mouse wallpaper and no icons or panels, if I right click I get a menu and I can open the desktop in thunar and see the install icon . If I click it, it runs and hangs. If I open a terminal and kill minstall and do sudo minstall in the terminal I can see it hanging after it has displayed the partitions on my system
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System:    Host: mx Kernel: 5.1.0-6.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 
           Distro: MX-18.3_x64 Continuum March 14  2018 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Latitude E4310 v: 0001 serial: <root required> 
           Mobo: Dell model: 0D8H24 v: A00 serial: <root required> BIOS: Dell v: A06 
           date: 02/15/2011 
...
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1366x768~60Hz, 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Mobile v: 2.1 Mesa 18.2.6 
....

I believe you're on the Secondary Display! (the default XFCE Blue Mouse logo wallpaper is a clue)

Also, in your QSI Graphics info the resolution: 1366x768~60Hz, 1920x1080~60Hz would seem to indicate 2 displays are active.

When I have my Dell Inspiron 5566 hooked up the TV through HDMI, I see:

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Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 620 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel 
  bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5916 
  Display: server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
  resolution: 1366x768~60Hz, 1920x1080~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 620 (Kaby Lake GT2) 
  v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
System:
  Host: mx-4 Kernel: 4.19.0-9-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-9-amd64 ro quiet consoleblank=600 
  pci=noaer nosplash 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 
  dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-19.2_x64 patito feo October 21  2019 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 5566 v: N/A serial: <filter> 
  Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Dell model: 0YRTVV v: A00 serial: <filter> UEFI: Dell v: 1.11.0  date: 12/04/2019 
The built-in laptop display is 1366x768-60Hz and the HDMI-ed TV is 1920x1080~60Hz.

When I'm not hooked up to an external display, I see:

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  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 620 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel 
  bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5916 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
  resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 620 (Kaby Lake GT2) 
  v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 

I'm curious about the following:
  • What does "Display - Configure screen settings and layout" show?
    (Right-Click Desktop >> Applications >> Settings >> Display)
    or In a Terminal do:

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    xfce4-display-settings
    
  • What does xrandr show?
    In a Terminal do:

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    xrandr
    
  • Do you have a docking station?

Re: mx19.2 live usb not running properly

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:26 am
by JayM
You should really boot the live USB and install MX with only one display connected, then "hot connect" your second monitor and configure it after booting into the installed system.

By the way, pressing Super+P (Super = the "Windows key") will show a multimonitor configuration popup that will let you select only monitor 1, mirror the two displays, extend the desktop to the second display, or only monitor 2. Note that the Super key by itself will open the Whisker menu so it will open up too: just ignore it.

See also viewtopic.php?f=108&t=57109.

Re: mx19.2 live usb not running properly

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:50 am
by wellsey
Thanks Fellas! Installed 19.2 :)
I believe you're on the Secondary Display! (the default XFCE Blue Mouse logo wallpaper is a clue)
I have a laptop connected to a docking station with the lid almost permanently down, and a samsung 23'' connected to the docking station. You identified the problem correctly the full desktop of the live USB appeared on the laptop when I booted with the lid up. Clicking Install icon on that desktop worked :)

thanks to all and @m_frank and @JayM particularly - I will mark this as solved

Re: [SOLVED] mx19.2 live usb not running properly

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:31 am
by jlxb
I had exactly the same problem on a system set up for two monitors but only one connected. MX saw the active monitor and automatically labeled it as monitor 2. I had to disable the #2 monitor to get the only monitor to be identified as monitor 1. It did not matter which video port I used - the result was the same. Problem now solved. THANKS!