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Steam games crahsing

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:38 pm
by Dangbert
i have played the Linux version of Steam OS games, primarily Civilization V, before and it ran fine, but I think I was running Mint at the time. When I try to run them under MX they load fine, but will crash after a few minutes. This is on both my systems (32bit with AMD FX Nvidia 390and 16gig of memory) (64bit with AMD Rizen 5, Nvidia 710 and 16gig of memory). Any helpful hints?

Re: Steam games crahsing

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:51 pm
by Head_on_a_Stick

Re: Steam games crahsing

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:06 am
by Dangbert
I have found the cure for the problem, but you will not like it. Load a copy of Mint. I did and it works great. Still have MX on my primary machine, but Mint on the backup. I played Civilization V for about four hours and nary a hiccup. Best I could do on MX was 30min to it dropping out of the program.

Thought you might want to know.

BTW, the backup machine has the motherboard, video card and CPU that was in my primary. So, its not the hardware.

Re: Steam games crahsing

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:14 am
by SwampRabbit
Dangbert wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:06 am I have found the cure for the problem, but you will not like it. Load a copy of Mint. I did and it works great. Still have MX on my primary machine, but Mint on the backup. I played Civilization V for about four hours and nary a hiccup. Best I could do on MX was 30min to it dropping out of the program.

Thought you might want to know.

BTW, the backup machine has the motherboard, video card and CPU that was in my primary. So, its not the hardware.
Seems to work fine for me on MX, can you post your Quick System Info (QSI).

I can go back and look at your other threads about your issues, it was mostly you had problems installing Steam and installing Nvidia drivers correct?

Re: Steam games crahsing

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:11 am
by Dangbert
No, Steam would install fine. The games loaded and started with no problems. About 5-30min into game play it would simply exit. No lock ups or anything else, it just closed.

Fortunately, I can still send the requested information, because I did not over write either MX installation, 32 and 64 bit. To make life easy for me give me the Command Line for QSI.

Re: Steam games crahsing

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:52 am
by m_frank
Dangbert wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:11 am :
Fortunately, I can still send the requested information, because I did not over write either MX installation, 32 and 64 bit.
To make life easy for me give me the Command Line for QSI.

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quick-system-info-mx

Re: Steam games crahsing

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:55 am
by antiX-Dave
Perhaps you may find some helpful information in one of the logs in
~/.steam/steam/logs/
and/or
~/.xession-errors

Re: Steam games crahsing

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:29 am
by Dangbert
Here is the output from the command line query

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System:    Host: debsmx Kernel: 5.4.0-3-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-3-amd64 
           root=UUID=f224f3a3-7cae-4843-a7e2-08c55c4ea9e9 ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-19.2_ahs_x64 patito feo February 15  2019 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: Micro-Star model: MPG X570 GAMING PLUS (MS-7C37) v: 2.0 
           serial: <filter> UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: A.70 date: 01/09/2020 
CPU:       Topology: 6-Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 
           family: 17 (23) model-id: 71 (113) stepping: N/A microcode: 8701013 
           L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 86401 
           Speed: 1865 MHz min/max: 2200/3600 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2182 
           2: 2554 3: 2203 4: 2197 5: 2172 6: 2199 7: 2200 8: 2200 9: 2174 10: 2516 11: 2178 
           12: 2198 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA TU107 vendor: ZOTAC driver: nvidia v: 440.82 bus ID: 2d:00.0 
           chip ID: 10de:1f82 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: nvidia 
           unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTX 1650/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 440.82 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: NVIDIA vendor: ZOTAC driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 2d:00.1 
           chip ID: 10de:10fa 
           Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus ID: 2f:00.4 chip ID: 1022:1487 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-3-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
           vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 bus ID: 27:00.0 
           chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Ralink RT5372 Wireless Adapter type: USB driver: rt2800usb 
           bus ID: 5-3.3.4:5 chip ID: 148f:5372 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.82 TiB used: 91.54 GiB (4.9%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD10EZEX-22MFCA0 size: 931.51 GiB 
           block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm 
           serial: <filter> rev: 1A01 scheme: MBR 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD10PURZ-85U8XY0 size: 931.51 GiB 
           block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 5400 rpm 
           serial: <filter> rev: 1A01 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 929.48 GiB size: 913.89 GiB (98.32%) used: 91.54 GiB (10.0%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 43.8 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 32 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 50% 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
           3: deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster non-free contrib main
           4: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-backports non-free contrib main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/steam.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64,i386] http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/ precise steam
           2: deb-src [arch=amd64,i386] http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/ precise steam
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 279 Uptime: 8h 23m Memory: 15.65 GiB used: 1.57 GiB (10.1%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

Re: Steam games crahsing

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:49 am
by SwampRabbit
Dangbert wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:29 am Here is the output from the command line query
Is this the same install from (from your other thread) when you had the Test Repo manually enabled for a bit?

Is there a reason these were enabled?

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           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           3: deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster non-free contrib main
           4: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-backports non-free contrib main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/steam.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64,i386] http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/ precise steam
           2: deb-src [arch=amd64,i386] http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/ precise steam
You should not need any of these or packages from them unless for some reason you are doing a lot more than just trying to do normal day to day things and play Steam games.

Please understand that it becomes very hard to troubleshoot and help when there is a chance that a system is not configured or running even close to a normal MX install.

Re: Steam games crahsing

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:58 am
by Dangbert
I did a normal install of MX. I then logged onto Steam Powered and logged on and did the necessary install of the app. What you are saying is to log on, get the app and then install Steam from the repository. So, I should delete the Steam folders in User and USR, grab the files from the repository and everything should be fine. What about the fact that Steam updates every time you log on?

As an item of curiosity, why did you set up MX this way? Mint does not seem to care.

Thanks

Re: Steam games crahsing

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:12 am
by SwampRabbit
Dangbert wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:58 am I did a normal install of MX. I then logged onto Steam Powered and logged on and did the necessary install of the app. What you are saying is to log on, get the app and then install Steam from the repository. So, I should delete the Steam folders in User and USR, grab the files from the repository and everything should be fine. What about the fact that Steam updates every time you log on?

As an item of curiosity, why did you set up MX this way? Mint does not seem to care.

Thanks
On a fresh normal install, you don't even have to go to Steams website to install, you don't have to go directly and grab files from any repository.

You can install Steam from the MX Package Installer. Steam will update as normal, no fuss, no muss.... easy peazy.

I can't say that you should delete everything and start over, but I can say that it is very hard to know what is and isn't installed on your system because you've had so many different repositories enabled. It is near impossible to replicate your system configuration to help and troubleshoot because of this.

I don't know how Mint does it, really don't care either lol. :cat:

It takes 3 clicks and one check box to install Steam on MX. Doesn't get much easier than that.
Are there other things that may need done for specific games, sure, but that is the same on any Distro.

Now in my opinion, if I were in your shoes and you wanted to use MX instead of Mint, I would reinstall a fresh version of MX 19.2 AHS and install Steam through MX Package Installer. Things should be much better and more stable, if you have issues after that its easier to help you.

Re: Steam games crahsing

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:03 am
by asqwerth
Is your Mint Ubuntu based or Debian?