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Posted: **Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:55 pm**

smilliken wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:16 pm I've been using Vivaldi now for some time both MX and Mac and really like a lot of the features it has compared to Chrome and FireFox.

https://vivaldi.com/

I did try vivaldi once and the resource usage was atrocious when compared to firefox on certain things..To me personally it looks like vivaldi is attempting to cram extensions into it's browser..the features are nice i will admit but the bling is not of interest to me and looking at the forum it is full of bugs which have not been resolved for years...

Posted: **Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:02 pm**

With 16 GIGS of ram, resources do not concern me that much. Typically use 3.5 GIG with Vivaldi running. Bugs? I have not experienced any.

Posted: **Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:39 pm**

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Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Pro 3330 MT v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
    Chassis: type: 3 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Foxconn model: 17A0 v: 2.10 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: 8.09
    date: 10/22/2013

CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i3-3240 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Ivy Bridge gen: core 3 level: v2
    built: 2012-15 process: Intel 22nm family: 6 model-id: 0x3A (58) stepping: 9 microcode: 0x21
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 128 KiB
    desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 3 MiB desc: 1x3 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 3352 high: 3369 min/max: 1600/3400 scaling: driver: intel_cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 3347 2: 3349 3: 3345 4: 3369 bogomips: 27137

Memory: 7.64 GiB used: 1.85 GiB (24.2%)

@dotw May I suggest you try the MX-21.3 XFCE live ISO (supported to June 2026) and see if the Firefox performance improves. (I would still turn Hardware Acceleration off)

Posted: **Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:58 am**

Thank you very much for mentioning brave browser.
Didn't know, that it exists. Firefox has been the only browser I used for many years.

Tried it and I'm very pleased about its behaviour. Its true, some webpages have smarter output than using firefox.
I also like braves configuration. Its userfriendlier than firefox.
What really bugs me (but its the same for firefox and chromium): the browser don't use and respect window manager defaults.
I use kde with dedicated virtual screens and sometimes I'd like to switch window between one screen and all screens, which is a one-click-action with window-manager driven windows. Using above browsers its impossible :(

Posted: **Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:11 pm**

Brave has a search engine also.
https://ibb.co/pQkDnpw

Posted: **Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:58 pm**

Hello, dotw.

I'd like to support siamhie's advice.

siamhie wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:39 pm[...] @dotw May I suggest you try the MX-21.3 XFCE live ISO (supported to June 2026) and see if the Firefox performance improves. (I would still turn Hardware Acceleration off)

I have got some doubts that a machine from 2013 will profit from using a kernel 6.1.0 instead of the MC 21.3 default kernel 5.10.0.
I am also a bit suspicious whether it was a good idea to follow Pjotr's instruction, which aims at Ubuntu based systems (that use systemd), on the Debian based MX Linux 21.3, in particular as you seem to start it up using SysVinit, which implies that systemd is not used.

Apart from that, have you taken the time to try what I had suggested in my post above perhaps? (3 steps in the lower half of the message)

Karl

Posted: **Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:10 pm**

There's also "SRWare Iron", which is lightning fast and somewhat like "Brave" but lighter on resources. No "Tor" integration though, but still a valid option IMHO...

https://www.srware.net/iron/

Posted: **Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:24 pm**

If privacy-focused browser is needed, then one can go with LibreWolf as well. It is Firefox fork, but comes with enhanced protection by default.

Though only thing which I don't like about this browser is that it doesn't opens in full-screen unlike other browsers.

Posted: **Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:45 pm**

GenesisHyperstrike wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:24 pm If privacy-focused browser is needed, then one can go with LibreWolf as well. It is Firefox fork, but comes with enhanced protection by default.

Though only thing which I don't like about this browser is that it doesn't opens in full-screen unlike other browsers.

1. Disable resistFingerprinting (settings>LibreWolf)
or
2. open about:config and change these two values (privacy.window.maxInnerWidth) (privacy.window.maxInnerHeight)

Posted: **Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:07 pm**

h3kt0r wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:10 pm There's also "SRWare Iron", which is lightning fast and somewhat like "Brave" but lighter on resources. No "Tor" integration though, but still a valid option IMHO...

https://www.srware.net/iron/

Years ago I downloaded the source code for it, they put it into a .zip split into four files, over 600MB, and when I merged them and opened it there was trash files and ads and all kinds of junk in it.
Ever since then I have considered them a shady outfit that I will not trust.

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