which one is the fastest web browser on linux?

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dotw
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which one is the fastest web browser on linux?

#1 Post by dotw »

I have used firefox ESR on my mx 23.1 xfce but when switching tabs, it lags for 10-20 sec. I installed brave and the problem does not occur in brave browser. Should i use brave instead or is there any browser better than it?

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Re: which one is the fastest web browser on linux?

#2 Post by j2mcgreg »

dotw wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:39 am I have used firefox ESR on my mx 23.1 xfce but when switching tabs, it lags for 10-20 sec. I installed brave and the problem does not occur in brave browser. Should i use brave instead or is there any browser better than it?
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Re: which one is the fastest web browser on linux?

#3 Post by siamhie »

Try disabling Hardware Acceleration on Firefox.
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Re: which one is the fastest web browser on linux?

#4 Post by txm0523 »

I use Firefox and Brave browser. I switch between them because the same extensions on both browsers act a little different at times. By that I mean, some web sites work better with FF and some work better with Brave. I like them both.
I have used SeaMonkey before because I love the nostalgic look of the old Netscape Navigator. Call me old fashioned, but my introduction to surfing the web was more pleasant using Netscape than IE. Wish Netscape would make a comeback.

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Re: which one is the fastest web browser on linux?

#5 Post by txm0523 »

+1 for siamhie comment. That works on both FF and Brave too.

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#6 Post by maximus linuxos »

I have always used firefox on mx...i run firefox in ram and it runs like a rocket...i see no viable reason to use another browser.I have employed a few about:config tweaks also.

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Re: which one is the fastest web browser on linux?

#7 Post by karlchen »

Hello, dotw,
I am amazed that so far not-one has asked you to provide your Quick System Info. So let me do so: share your QSI with us, please.
1. Click on Quick System Info in MX Tools
2. Right click in your post and paste.
Your QSI might give a hint perhaps, why Firefox on your system is slower than to be expected.

What you might try in order to get closer to the root cause of a slow Firefox is this:
1. create another MX Linux user.
2. log in to MX Linux as this second user.
3. Launch Firefox and test, whether Firefox is more responsive under the second user's account than under the first user's account
In case Firefox working under the second user's account is faster and more responsive, then the root cause for your slow Firefox is something inside your personal Firefox userprofile.
In this case you may have to create a new thread about your slow Firefox in another appropriate sub-forum, because this here is a chat sub-forum.

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Re: which one is the fastest web browser on linux?

#8 Post by Artim »

+1 for Seamonkey! Not for nostalgia, but because it's simple and awesome. It does what both Firefox and Thunderbird do, yet with thousands fewer lines of code than Firefox by itself. I think it ought to be the default browser for "lightweight" Linux distros.

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Re: which one is the fastest web browser on linux?

#9 Post by hebelwirkung »

dotw wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:39 am Should i use brave instead or is there any browser better than it?
There probably is no definitive answer; as someone else in this thread pointed out, much depends on your hardware so that one man's fast browser may be another man's snail.

That said, let me voice my profound disappointment with the fact that for me - I have used Firefox/Librewolf for donkeys years - Brave is by far the fastest browser. On some websites, it's up to three times as fast in terms of rendering content. I find that intensely annoying since it is Chrome-based; and anyone with any self-respect ought to stay away from that. And yes - for a while, I valiantly ignored Brave's speed advantage, and stuck with Mozilla, arguing that (comparatively) slow rendering was made up for by watching it from high moral ground. In the end, though, I caved in, and am currently finding Brave an excellent solution. I must say I'm deeply annoyed with myself for being such a shameful opportunist, and wanted to take this opportunity of confessing publicly :mad:

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Re: which one is the fastest web browser on linux?

#10 Post by dotw »

karlchen wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:09 pm share your QSI with us

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-13-amd64 [6.1.55-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-13-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.1_x64 Libretto July 31  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Pro 3330 MT v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
    Chassis: type: 3 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Foxconn model: 17A0 v: 2.10 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: 8.09
    date: 10/22/2013
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i3-3240 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Ivy Bridge gen: core 3 level: v2
    built: 2012-15 process: Intel 22nm family: 6 model-id: 0x3A (58) stepping: 9 microcode: 0x21
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 128 KiB
    desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 3 MiB desc: 1x3 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 3352 high: 3369 min/max: 1600/3400 scaling: driver: intel_cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 3347 2: 3349 3: 3345 4: 3369 bogomips: 27137
  Flags: avx ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB
    filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-7 process: Intel 22nm built: 2012-13 ports: active: HDMI-A-1
    empty: DP-1,VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0152 class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-1 model: Acer KA222Q H serial: <filter> built: 2023
    res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102 gamma: 1.2 size: 478x260mm (18.82x10.24") diag: 544mm (21.4")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.2 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 2500 (IVB GT1)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard 6
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1c20 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-13-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: e000 bus-ID: 05:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 111.79 GiB used: 26.81 GiB (24.0%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Lexar model: SSD NS10LT 120GB size: 111.79 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 0.2 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 41.08 GiB size: 40.14 GiB (97.71%) used: 26.81 GiB (66.8%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda7 maj-min: 8:7
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 477 MiB size: 476 MiB (99.80%) used: 288 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda5 maj-min: 8:5
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 1.91 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda6
    maj-min: 8:6
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 46.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 2338 pm: dpkg pkgs: 2306 libs: 1214 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 32
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/microsoft-edge.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/edge/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/onlyoffice.list
    1: deb https://download.onlyoffice.com/repo/debian squeeze main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list
    1: deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free
Info:
  Processes: 207 Uptime: 25m wakeups: 1 Memory: 7.64 GiB used: 1.85 GiB (24.2%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
BTW, i followed step 7 and 8 of this webpage
https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.c ... t.html#ID9

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