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installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:57 am
by sisqonrw
i have installed MX-21.1_x64 on my notebook.
i have made a live usb with balena etcher.
thank i have choose on the booting process under GRUB UEFI USB disk. the same is listed but without UEFI.
MX choose ESP as GRUB.
in the boot option is
ro quiet nosplash video=SVIDEO-1:d i915.invert_brightness=1
booting is low

when i start Firefox it needs ca. 2-3 Minutes.

i have an ASUS X541U notebook with i3, 8GB Ram and 1TB HDD

sadly everything is to low.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:59 am
by Eadwine Rose
Please run quick system info. Find it in the menu, put the whole output in a reply. Thanks.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:01 am
by sisqonrw
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:57 am i have installed MX-21.1_x64 on my notebook.
i have made a live usb with balena etcher.
thank i have choose on the booting process under GRUB UEFI USB disk. the same is listed but without UEFI.
MX choose ESP as GRUB.
in the boot option is
ro quiet nosplash video=SVIDEO-1:d i915.invert_brightness=1
booting is low

when i start Firefox it needs ca. 2-3 Minutes.

i have an ASUS X541U notebook with i3, 8GB Ram and 1TB HDD

sadly everything is to low.

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System:
  Kernel: 5.10.0-13-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-13-amd64 
  root=UUID=<filter> ro ro quiet nosplash 
  video=SVIDEO-1:d i915.invert_brightness=1 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
  dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.1_x64 Wildflower April 9  2022 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  UEFI: American Megatrends v: X541UAK.303 date: 03/30/2017 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 31.4 Wh (99.4%) condition: 31.6/34.6 Wh (91.5%) 
  volts: 10.8 min: 10.8 model: ASUSTeK ASUS Battery type: Li-ion serial: N/A 
  status: Not charging cycles: 45 
CPU:
  Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-6006U bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Skylake family: 6 model-id: 4E (78) stepping: 3 microcode: EC cache: 
  L2: 3 MiB 
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx 
  bogomips: 15999 
  Speed: 2000 MHz min/max: 400/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2000 2: 2000 
  3: 2000 4: 2000 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
  Type: l1tf 
  mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: 
  conditional, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A 
  alternate: i915 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1916 class-ID: 0300 
  Device-2: IMC Networks USB2.0 VGA UVC WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo 
  bus-ID: 1-6:3 chip-ID: 13d3:5a01 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: 
  loaded: N/A unloaded: fbdev display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 800x600 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 212x159mm (8.3x6.3") 
  s-diag: 265mm (10.4") 
  Monitor-1: default res: 800x600 hz: 75 
  OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.1 256 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 
  compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_skl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 
  chip-ID: 8086:9d70 class-ID: 0403 
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-13-amd64 running: yes 
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK 
  driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.2 chip-ID: 10ec:8136 
  class-ID: 0200 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On 
  driver: rtl8723be v: kernel modules: wl port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 
  chip-ID: 10ec:b723 class-ID: 0280 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 
  bus-ID: 1-8:4 chip-ID: 0bda:b721 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter> 
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 
  lmp-v: 4.0 sub-v: 9f73 hci-v: 4.0 rev: e2f 
  Info: acl-mtu: 820:8 sco-mtu: 255:16 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park 
  link-mode: slave accept 
  service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 36.63 GiB (3.9%) 
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM035-1RK172 
  size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
  type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: SDM1 scheme: GPT 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 923.25 GiB size: 907.69 GiB (98.31%) used: 36.63 GiB (4.0%) 
  fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) 
  fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 780 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
  dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 44.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2100 
Repos:
  Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1991 lib: 988 flatpak: 0 
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 208 Uptime: 9m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.66 GiB used: 976.2 MiB (12.5%) 
  Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: 
  gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 
  running-in: quick-system-info-mx inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:14 am
by Eadwine Rose
Did you check the iso md5sum? Did you check the stick md5sum? If you have a bad iso or a bad "burn" then that can also cause weird issues. Make sure the md5sum (or sha, whatever you use) pans out.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:48 am
by fehlix
to add ... and after you have confirmed the integration check (checksum or signature check) went ok, as just proposed.
Please do boot from LiveUSB twice in both boot modes BIOS/legacy and also UEFI:

Within Boot Option list (Press Fn-key may be F12 or F10 at boot-up POST)
and do select
first time:
* LiveUSB (without UEFI)

and also next boot:
* LiveUSB with UEFI.

In both cases and if booted successfully do post "Quick System Info"
from running LiveUSB.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:15 am
by Huckleberry Finn
Though you didn't use nomodeset, intel drivers are not loaded :

Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A
...
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: loaded: N/A

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:21 am
by fehlix
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:15 am Though you didn't use nomodeset, intel drivers are not loaded :

Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A
...
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: loaded: N/A
That's shown in the QSI, b/c someone recommend video= parameter, which prevents loading KMS driver.
Suggets to gather first information from LiverUSB, to reduce confusion (as it appears to happend with other 70post's confusing thread.
Thanks

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:26 am
by Huckleberry Finn
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:21 am someone recommend video= parameter...
"Me" :D

For the same complaint: "booting takes so long time". .. But, in the other thread they were ok with these , same parameters ..

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:59 am
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:15 am Though you didn't use nomodeset, intel drivers are not loaded :

Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A
...
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: loaded: N/A
i add it now. the parameters are now
ro quiet nosplash video=SVIDEO-1:d i915.invert_brightness=1
sadly it is slow still now. to open one app takes a lot time. 2 apps at one time is very bad.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:04 am
by Eadwine Rose
We're asking every time.

Quick System Info. Run it from the menu, paste in a reply.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:18 am
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:59 am i add it now. the parameters are now
ro quiet nosplash video=SVIDEO-1:d i915.invert_brightness=1
sadly it is slow still now. to open one app takes a lot time. 2 apps at one time is very bad.
I guess Mr. @Huckleberry Finn may have confused you again.
Can you try to avoid creating another confusing thread,
and follow stepp by stepp what was asked.
Thanks.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:18 am
by sisqonrw
Eadwine Rose wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:04 am We're asking every time.

Quick System Info. Run it from the menu, paste in a reply.

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System:
  Kernel: 5.10.0-13-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-13-amd64 
  root=UUID=<filter> ro ro quiet nosplash 
  video=SVIDEO-1:d i915.invert_brightness=1 nomodeset 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
  dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.1_x64 Wildflower April 9  2022 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  UEFI: American Megatrends v: X541UAK.303 date: 03/30/2017 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 31.4 Wh (99.1%) condition: 31.7/34.6 Wh (91.8%) 
  volts: 10.8 min: 10.8 model: ASUSTeK ASUS Battery type: Li-ion serial: N/A 
  status: Not charging cycles: 45 
CPU:
  Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-6006U bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Skylake family: 6 model-id: 4E (78) stepping: 3 microcode: EC cache: 
  L2: 3 MiB 
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx 
  bogomips: 15999 
  Speed: 2000 MHz min/max: 400/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2000 2: 2000 
  3: 2001 4: 2001 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
  Type: l1tf 
  mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: 
  conditional, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A 
  alternate: i915 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1916 class-ID: 0300 
  Device-2: IMC Networks USB2.0 VGA UVC WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo 
  bus-ID: 1-6:3 chip-ID: 13d3:5a01 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: 
  loaded: N/A unloaded: fbdev display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 800x600 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 212x159mm (8.3x6.3") 
  s-diag: 265mm (10.4") 
  Monitor-1: default res: 800x600 hz: 75 
  OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.1 256 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 
  compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_skl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 
  chip-ID: 8086:9d70 class-ID: 0403 
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-13-amd64 running: yes 
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK 
  driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.2 chip-ID: 10ec:8136 
  class-ID: 0200 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On 
  driver: rtl8723be v: kernel modules: wl port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 
  chip-ID: 10ec:b723 class-ID: 0280 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 
  bus-ID: 1-8:4 chip-ID: 0bda:b721 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter> 
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 
  lmp-v: 4.0 sub-v: 9f73 hci-v: 4.0 rev: e2f 
  Info: acl-mtu: 820:8 sco-mtu: 255:16 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park 
  link-mode: slave accept 
  service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 89.98 GiB (9.7%) 
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM035-1RK172 
  size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
  type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: SDM1 scheme: GPT 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 923.25 GiB size: 907.69 GiB (98.31%) used: 89.98 GiB (9.9%) 
  fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) 
  fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 1 MiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
  dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 43.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2100 
Repos:
  Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1991 lib: 988 flatpak: 0 
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 213 Uptime: 31m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.66 GiB used: 1.27 GiB (16.6%) 
  Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: 
  gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 
  running-in: quick-system-info-mx inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:23 am
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:26 am
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:21 am someone recommend video= parameter...
"Me" :D

For the same complaint: "booting takes so long time". .. But, in the other thread they were ok with these , same parameters ..
no later not sadly. the speed etc. was ok but later not. i dont know why. than i should closed the other thread and open a new for this problem.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:32 am
by sisqonrw
why is display resolution 800x600? sadly i can change it in the settings.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:46 am
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:32 am why is display resolution 800x600? sadly i can change it in the settings.
The boot options you added probably create the the limitation by the used frame buffer driver.
In order to get a better picture please do as asked boot from LiveUSB and post QSI.
Alternatively, without any furhter info my last advice on the issue would be to try AHS ISO, which comes with a newer kernel and new firmware included.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:50 am
by sisqonrw
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:46 am
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:32 am why is display resolution 800x600? sadly i can change it in the settings.
The boot options you added probably create the the limitation by the used frame buffer driver.
In order to get a better picture please do as asked boot from LiveUSB and post QSI.
Alternatively, without any furhter info my last advice on the issue would be to try AHS ISO, which comes with a newer kernel and new firmware included.
should i boot the ahs live usb as UEFI or normal? GRUB show me both. it is the same USB Stick.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:05 am
by Huckleberry Finn
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:21 am
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:15 am Though you didn't use nomodeset, intel drivers are not loaded :

Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A
...
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: loaded: N/A
That's shown in the QSI, b/c someone recommend video= parameter, which prevents loading KMS driver.
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:18 am I guess Mr. @Huckleberry Finn may have confused you again.
Then let me confuse everyone more and more, here's mine "all intel":

Before & After:

System: Kernel: 4.9.0-294-antix.1-686-smp-pae i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-294-antix.1-686-smp-pae
root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet hush nosplash
psmouse.synaptics_intertouch=0

Graphics: Device-1: Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics vendor: Hewlett-Packard
driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:2592 class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: loaded: intel display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1024x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 270x203mm (10.6x8.0")



System: Kernel: 4.9.0-294-antix.1-686-smp-pae i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-294-antix.1-686-smp-pae
root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet hush nosplash
psmouse.synaptics_intertouch=0 video=SVIDEO-1:d

Graphics: Device-1: Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics vendor: Hewlett-Packard
driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:2592 class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: loaded: intel display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1024x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 270x203mm (10.6x8.0")

(Just maybe for Xorg already uses Intel, not modesetting)

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:09 am
by fehlix
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:05 am
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:21 am
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:15 am Though you didn't use nomodeset, intel drivers are not loaded :

Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A
...
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: loaded: N/A
That's shown in the QSI, b/c someone recommend video= parameter, which prevents loading KMS driver.
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:18 am I guess Mr. @Huckleberry Finn may have confused you again.
Then let me confuse everyone more and more, here's mine "all intel":
Thanks.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:10 am
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:50 am
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:46 am
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:32 am why is display resolution 800x600? sadly i can change it in the settings.
The boot options you added probably create the the limitation by the used frame buffer driver.
In order to get a better picture please do as asked boot from LiveUSB and post QSI.
Alternatively, without any furhter info my last advice on the issue would be to try AHS ISO, which comes with a newer kernel and new firmware included.
should i boot the ahs live usb as UEFI or normal? GRUB show me both. it is the same USB Stick.
Try both, UEFI and none-UEFI (which is MBR/BIOS) booting,
and post QSI for both.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:42 am
by sisqonrw
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:10 am
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:50 am
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:46 am
The boot options you added probably create the the limitation by the used frame buffer driver.
In order to get a better picture please do as asked boot from LiveUSB and post QSI.
Alternatively, without any furhter info my last advice on the issue would be to try AHS ISO, which comes with a newer kernel and new firmware included.
should i boot the ahs live usb as UEFI or normal? GRUB show me both. it is the same USB Stick.
Try both, UEFI and none-UEFI (which is MBR/BIOS) booting,
and post QSI for both.
ok i download the AHS ISO and do it with AHS ISO. which Grub should i choose? that what the installer suggest/choose automatical?

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:43 am
by Eadwine Rose
Did you check md5sum of iso and usb drive? Start with that.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:57 am
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:42 am
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:10 am
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:50 am

should i boot the ahs live usb as UEFI or normal? GRUB show me both. it is the same USB Stick.
Try both, UEFI and none-UEFI (which is MBR/BIOS) booting,
and post QSI for both.
ok i download the AHS ISO and do it with AHS ISO. which Grub should i choose? that what the installer suggest/choose automatical?
Hmme, so it apprears you intentionally ignore advices given. We asked for posting "Quick System Info"
for both UEFI and BIOS boot mode, and you replied with something completely different by running the installer.
Please follow advices and respond to the questions asked.
Good luck.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:06 am
by sisqonrw
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:57 am
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:42 am
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:10 am
Try both, UEFI and none-UEFI (which is MBR/BIOS) booting,
and post QSI for both.
ok i download the AHS ISO and do it with AHS ISO. which Grub should i choose? that what the installer suggest/choose automatical?
Hmme, so it apprears you intentionally ignore advices given. We asked for posting "Quick System Info"
for both UEFI and BIOS boot mode, and you replied with something completely different by running the installer.
Please follow advices and respond to the questions asked.
Good luck.
no you misunderstand me. i do it at the moment. i will post the QSI soon. dont you say that i should do it with the AHS iso? i have downloaded now and make a usb live stick. than i boot with UEFI and without UEFI and post the QSI results.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:12 am
by sisqonrw
should i use any boot parameters? like failsafe, etc.? if yes which paramaeters?

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:26 am
by Eadwine Rose
Use no parameters, use standard boots.

And check the md5sums of iso and usb.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:40 am
by sisqonrw
Eadwine Rose wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:26 am Use no parameters, use standard boots.

And check the md5sums of iso and usb.
https://pastebin.com/edHSkvu6

see here. md5sums is ok.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:10 am
by sisqonrw
result without UEFI

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System:    Kernel: 5.16.0-5mx-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: quiet splasht nosplash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.1_ahs_x64 Wildflower April 9  2022 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
           UEFI-[Legacy]: American Megatrends v: X541UAK.303 date: 03/30/2017 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 31.7 Wh (99.1%) condition: 32.0/34.6 Wh (92.6%) volts: 10.8 
           min: 10.8 model: ASUSTeK ASUS Battery type: Li-ion serial: N/A status: Not charging 
           cycles: 45 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-6006U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Skylake 
           family: 6 model-id: 4E (78) stepping: 3 microcode: 9E cache: L2: 3 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 15999 
           Speed: 2000 MHz min/max: 400/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2000 2: 2000 3: 2000 
           4: 2000 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds 
           status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1916 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: IMC Networks USB2.0 VGA UVC WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-6:3 
           chip-ID: 13d3:5a01 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") 
           s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
           Monitor-1: eDP-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101 size: 344x193mm (13.5x7.6") 
           diag: 394mm (15.5") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 520 (SKL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 21.2.5 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_skl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:9d70 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.16.0-5mx-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 
           v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.2 chip-ID: 10ec:8136 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On 
           driver: rtl8723be v: kernel modules: wl port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:b723 
           class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-8:4 
           chip-ID: 0bda:b721 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter> 
           Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0 
           sub-v: 9f73 hci-v: 4.0 rev: e2f 
           Info: acl-mtu: 820:8 sco-mtu: 255:16 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park 
           link-mode: slave accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 938.79 GiB used: 1.83 GiB (0.2%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM035-1RK172 
           size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
           type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: SDM1 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: Transcend 
           model: JetFlash Transcend 8GB size: 7.28 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B 
           logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 8.07 scheme: MBR 
           SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 52.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2400 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1988 lib: 988 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:      Processes: 229 Uptime: 1m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.66 GiB used: 4.69 GiB (61.2%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: quick-system-info-mx 
           inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:15 am
by sisqonrw
result with UEFI

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System:    Kernel: 5.16.0-5mx-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash lang=de_DE kbd=de 
           tz=Europe/Berlin 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.1_ahs_x64 Wildflower April 9  2022 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends 
           v: X541UAK.303 date: 03/30/2017 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 31.7 Wh (99.1%) condition: 32.0/34.6 Wh (92.6%) volts: 10.8 
           min: 10.8 model: ASUSTeK ASUS Battery type: Li-ion serial: N/A status: Not charging 
           cycles: 45 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-6006U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Skylake 
           family: 6 model-id: 4E (78) stepping: 3 microcode: 9E cache: L2: 3 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 15999 
           Speed: 2000 MHz min/max: 400/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2000 2: 2000 3: 2000 
           4: 2000 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds 
           status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1916 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: IMC Networks USB2.0 VGA UVC WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-6:3 
           chip-ID: 13d3:5a01 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") 
           s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
           Monitor-1: eDP-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101 size: 344x193mm (13.5x7.6") 
           diag: 394mm (15.5") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 520 (SKL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 21.2.5 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_skl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:9d70 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.16.0-5mx-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 
           v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.2 chip-ID: 10ec:8136 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On 
           driver: rtl8723be v: kernel modules: wl port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:b723 
           class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-8:4 
           chip-ID: 0bda:b721 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter> 
           Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0 
           sub-v: 9f73 hci-v: 4.0 rev: e2f 
           Info: acl-mtu: 820:8 sco-mtu: 255:16 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park 
           link-mode: slave accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 938.79 GiB used: 1.83 GiB (0.2%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM035-1RK172 
           size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
           type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: SDM1 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: Transcend 
           model: JetFlash Transcend 8GB size: 7.28 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B 
           logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 8.07 scheme: MBR 
           SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2400 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1988 lib: 988 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:      Processes: 229 Uptime: 1m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.66 GiB used: 5.01 GiB (65.4%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: quick-system-info-mx 
           inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI
which looking good? which should i install?

which boot parameters should i use? or shouldnt

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:31 am
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:15 am result with UEFI

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System:    Kernel: 5.16.0-5mx-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash lang=de_DE kbd=de 
           tz=Europe/Berlin 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.1_ahs_x64 Wildflower April 9  2022 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends 
           v: X541UAK.303 date: 03/30/2017 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 31.7 Wh (99.1%) condition: 32.0/34.6 Wh (92.6%) volts: 10.8 
           min: 10.8 model: ASUSTeK ASUS Battery type: Li-ion serial: N/A status: Not charging 
           cycles: 45 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-6006U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Skylake 
           family: 6 model-id: 4E (78) stepping: 3 microcode: 9E cache: L2: 3 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 15999 
           Speed: 2000 MHz min/max: 400/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2000 2: 2000 3: 2000 
           4: 2000 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds 
           status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1916 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: IMC Networks USB2.0 VGA UVC WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-6:3 
           chip-ID: 13d3:5a01 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") 
           s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
           Monitor-1: eDP-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101 size: 344x193mm (13.5x7.6") 
           diag: 394mm (15.5") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 520 (SKL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 21.2.5 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_skl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:9d70 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.16.0-5mx-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 
           v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.2 chip-ID: 10ec:8136 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On 
           driver: rtl8723be v: kernel modules: wl port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:b723 
           class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-8:4 
           chip-ID: 0bda:b721 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter> 
           Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0 
           sub-v: 9f73 hci-v: 4.0 rev: e2f 
           Info: acl-mtu: 820:8 sco-mtu: 255:16 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park 
           link-mode: slave accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 938.79 GiB used: 1.83 GiB (0.2%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM035-1RK172 
           size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
           type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: SDM1 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: Transcend 
           model: JetFlash Transcend 8GB size: 7.28 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B 
           logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 8.07 scheme: MBR 
           SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2400 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1988 lib: 988 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:      Processes: 229 Uptime: 1m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.66 GiB used: 5.01 GiB (65.4%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: quick-system-info-mx 
           inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI
which looking good? which should i install?

which boot parameters should i use? or shouldnt
OK, thanks. Now if the liveSystem behaves and works normally,
I would always recommend start with trying UEFI-install.
Just make it simpel and do this:
first update to latest mx-installer:
Open terminal:
and type

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sudo apt update
enter password for "demo" no "*" shown, which you have seen with the Welcome-Popup as "demo".
and install latest installer:

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sudo apt install mx-installer
Now run the installer, and simply, select auto install entire disk
and later for GRUB select ESP ( which shall be preselected)
When done try to reboot - remove LiveUSB -, and post back how it behaves,
and post "QSI" again from running installed system.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:59 am
by sisqonrw
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:31 am
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:15 am result with UEFI

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System:    Kernel: 5.16.0-5mx-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash lang=de_DE kbd=de 
           tz=Europe/Berlin 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.1_ahs_x64 Wildflower April 9  2022 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends 
           v: X541UAK.303 date: 03/30/2017 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 31.7 Wh (99.1%) condition: 32.0/34.6 Wh (92.6%) volts: 10.8 
           min: 10.8 model: ASUSTeK ASUS Battery type: Li-ion serial: N/A status: Not charging 
           cycles: 45 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-6006U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Skylake 
           family: 6 model-id: 4E (78) stepping: 3 microcode: 9E cache: L2: 3 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 15999 
           Speed: 2000 MHz min/max: 400/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2000 2: 2000 3: 2000 
           4: 2000 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds 
           status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1916 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: IMC Networks USB2.0 VGA UVC WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-6:3 
           chip-ID: 13d3:5a01 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") 
           s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
           Monitor-1: eDP-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101 size: 344x193mm (13.5x7.6") 
           diag: 394mm (15.5") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 520 (SKL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 21.2.5 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_skl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:9d70 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.16.0-5mx-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 
           v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.2 chip-ID: 10ec:8136 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On 
           driver: rtl8723be v: kernel modules: wl port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:b723 
           class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-8:4 
           chip-ID: 0bda:b721 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter> 
           Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0 
           sub-v: 9f73 hci-v: 4.0 rev: e2f 
           Info: acl-mtu: 820:8 sco-mtu: 255:16 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park 
           link-mode: slave accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 938.79 GiB used: 1.83 GiB (0.2%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM035-1RK172 
           size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
           type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: SDM1 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: Transcend 
           model: JetFlash Transcend 8GB size: 7.28 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B 
           logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 8.07 scheme: MBR 
           SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2400 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1988 lib: 988 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:      Processes: 229 Uptime: 1m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.66 GiB used: 5.01 GiB (65.4%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: quick-system-info-mx 
           inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI
which looking good? which should i install?

which boot parameters should i use? or shouldnt
OK, thanks. Now if the liveSystem behaves and works normally,
I would always recommend start with trying UEFI-install.
Just make it simpel and do this:
first update to latest mx-installer:
Open terminal:
and type

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sudo apt update
enter password for "demo" no "*" shown, which you have seen with the Welcome-Popup as "demo".
and install latest installer:

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sudo apt install mx-installer
Now run the installer, and simply, select auto install entire disk
and later for GRUB select ESP ( which shall be preselected)
When done try to reboot - remove LiveUSB -, and post back how it behaves,
and post "QSI" again from running installed system.
i try it. but i cant choose ESP. there is no GRUB suggestion.
and the installer frozen at 94%. nothing happens.
what should i do or try?

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:36 pm
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:59 am
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:15 am result with UEFI
...

Now run the installer, and simply, select auto install entire disk
and later for GRUB select ESP ( which shall be preselected)
When done try to reboot - remove LiveUSB -, and post back how it behaves,
and post "QSI" again from running installed system.
i try it. but i cant choose ESP. there is no GRUB suggestion.
and the installer frozen at 94%. nothing happens.
what should i do or try?
Rather unusual, for installing entire disk in UEFI mode that no ESP is available to select.

* Post, the text-file /vat/log/minstall.log.
may be copy first and rename to minstall.log.txt

* Also may be make screen shot of the different mx-installer - window
where you have selected the installation target drive for auto-install entire-disk.
and the GRUB installation window.
Don't screen dump entire screen, only the selected window,
save as jpg so you can attach to the post.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:49 pm
by sisqonrw
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:36 pm
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:59 am
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:15 am result with UEFI
...

Now run the installer, and simply, select auto install entire disk
and later for GRUB select ESP ( which shall be preselected)
When done try to reboot - remove LiveUSB -, and post back how it behaves,
and post "QSI" again from running installed system.
i try it. but i cant choose ESP. there is no GRUB suggestion.
and the installer frozen at 94%. nothing happens.
what should i do or try?
Rather unusual, for installing entire disk in UEFI mode that no ESP is available to select.

* Post, the text-file /vat/log/minstall.log.
may be copy first and rename to minstall.log.txt

* Also may be make screen shot of the different mx-installer - window
where you have selected the installation target drive for auto-install entire-disk.
and the GRUB installation window.
Don't screen dump entire screen, only the selected window,
save as jpg so you can attach to the post.
what do you mean with different mx-installer? before update or old standard mx-installer?

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:56 pm
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:49 pm
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:36 pm
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:59 am

i try it. but i cant choose ESP. there is no GRUB suggestion.
and the installer frozen at 94%. nothing happens.
what should i do or try?
Rather unusual, for installing entire disk in UEFI mode that no ESP is available to select.

* Post, the text-file /vat/log/minstall.log.
may be copy first and rename to minstall.log.txt

* Also may be make screen shot of the different mx-installer - window
where you have selected the installation target drive for auto-install entire-disk.
and the GRUB installation window.
Don't screen dump entire screen, only the selected window,
save as jpg so you can attach to the post.
what do you mean with different mx-installer? before update or old standard mx-installer?
Sorry, I meant make a screen shot of the different shown mx-installer window.
so we see what you have seen.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:58 pm
by sisqonrw
what about boot option parameters during booting?

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:03 pm
by sisqonrw
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:36 pm
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:59 am
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:15 am result with UEFI
...

Now run the installer, and simply, select auto install entire disk
and later for GRUB select ESP ( which shall be preselected)
When done try to reboot - remove LiveUSB -, and post back how it behaves,
and post "QSI" again from running installed system.
i try it. but i cant choose ESP. there is no GRUB suggestion.
and the installer frozen at 94%. nothing happens.
what should i do or try?
Rather unusual, for installing entire disk in UEFI mode that no ESP is available to select.

* Post, the text-file /vat/log/minstall.log.
may be copy first and rename to minstall.log.txt

* Also may be make screen shot of the different mx-installer - window
where you have selected the installation target drive for auto-install entire-disk.
and the GRUB installation window.
Don't screen dump entire screen, only the selected window,
save as jpg so you can attach to the post.
the is no minstall.log or mxinstall.log
file do not exist

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:06 pm
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:58 pm what about boot option parameters during booting?
We don't know anything about your "mentioned " error, so can't "simply guess" for adding a magic boot option.
For now only use the one you have chosen for selecting lang/kbd and timezone.,
B/C liveUSB seem to work fine without any further boot option.

Otherwise if that's to much for you,
do try to install in NON-UEFI boot mode (which is BIOS/legacy mode)
but do also select auto-install entire disk
and post /var/log/minstall-log as mentioned if any issues.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:08 pm
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:03 pm the is no minstall.log or mxinstall.log
file do not exist
Post the output of this command,
after you have started/finished the mx-installer:

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ls -l /var/log/*.log

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:12 pm
by sisqonrw
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:56 pm
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:49 pm
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:36 pm
Rather unusual, for installing entire disk in UEFI mode that no ESP is available to select.

* Post, the text-file /vat/log/minstall.log.
may be copy first and rename to minstall.log.txt

* Also may be make screen shot of the different mx-installer - window
where you have selected the installation target drive for auto-install entire-disk.
and the GRUB installation window.
Don't screen dump entire screen, only the selected window,
save as jpg so you can attach to the post.
what do you mean with different mx-installer? before update or old standard mx-installer?
Sorry, I meant make a screen shot of the different shown mx-installer window.
so we see what you have seen.
i can not make fotos. it is terrible. because mx-installer froze or hang always

also i cant install

you havent enough space on /var/cache/apt/archives/

cant i use the normal insaller?

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:14 pm
by sisqonrw
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:03 pm
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:36 pm
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:59 am

i try it. but i cant choose ESP. there is no GRUB suggestion.
and the installer frozen at 94%. nothing happens.
what should i do or try?
Rather unusual, for installing entire disk in UEFI mode that no ESP is available to select.

* Post, the text-file /vat/log/minstall.log.
may be copy first and rename to minstall.log.txt

* Also may be make screen shot of the different mx-installer - window
where you have selected the installation target drive for auto-install entire-disk.
and the GRUB installation window.
Don't screen dump entire screen, only the selected window,
save as jpg so you can attach to the post.
the is no minstall.log or mxinstall.log
file do not exist
i have ESP when i do not update mx-installer

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:54 pm
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:14 pm
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:03 pm
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:36 pm
Rather unusual, for installing entire disk in UEFI mode that no ESP is available to select.

* Post, the text-file /vat/log/minstall.log.
may be copy first and rename to minstall.log.txt

* Also may be make screen shot of the different mx-installer - window
where you have selected the installation target drive for auto-install entire-disk.
and the GRUB installation window.
Don't screen dump entire screen, only the selected window,
save as jpg so you can attach to the post.
the is no minstall.log or mxinstall.log
file do not exist
i have ESP when i do not update mx-installer
Hmme, would be helpfull to figure this out, in case smething needs to be fixed.
Anyway try install entire disk when ready reboot ( or better shutdown and pull-out liveUSB)
and check whether it boots intzo the GRUB menu.
Otherwise press F12-Boot options list and select MX21 EFI loader from listed boot options,
just in case MX21 is not the preselected default EFI loader..

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:35 pm
by sisqonrw
I tried not UEFI Version to. both froze and hang.
nothing happens at 93%

without parameters i cant install it.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:38 pm
by sisqonrw
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:54 pm
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:14 pm
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:03 pm

the is no minstall.log or mxinstall.log
file do not exist
i have ESP when i do not update mx-installer
Hmme, would be helpfull to figure this out, in case smething needs to be fixed.
Anyway try install entire disk when ready reboot ( or better shutdown and pull-out liveUSB)
and check whether it boots intzo the GRUB menu.
Otherwise press F12-Boot options list and select MX21 EFI loader from listed boot options,
just in case MX21 is not the preselected default EFI loader..
i tried both. i have to press esc. than i can choose UEFI USB or normal USB. but cant finish the installation.

see here

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 29#p692029

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:41 pm
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:35 pm I tried not UEFI Version to. both froze and hang.
nothing happens at 93%

without parameters i cant install it.
OK. Try again either UEFI or non-UEFI and do select to not install GRUB.
Does the installer finish?
When finished: Close the installer but do not reboot (untick reboot with the last screen)
Do now open "MX Boot Repair"
and try to install GRUB separately.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:46 pm
by sisqonrw
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:41 pm
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:35 pm I tried not UEFI Version to. both froze and hang.
nothing happens at 93%

without parameters i cant install it.
OK. Try again either UEFI or non-UEFI and do select to not install GRUB.
Does the installer finish?
When finished: Close the installer but do not reboot (untick reboot with the last screen)
Do now open "MX Boot Repair"
and try to install GRUB separately.
i cant finish the installation what ever i choose. only with boot parameters like failsafe etc. i can finish the installation. which boot parameters can i choose and should i do it with UEFI or normal USB?

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:54 pm
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:46 pm
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:41 pm
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:35 pm I tried not UEFI Version to. both froze and hang.
nothing happens at 93%

without parameters i cant install it.
OK. Try again either UEFI or non-UEFI and do select to not install GRUB.
Does the installer finish?
When finished: Close the installer but do not reboot (untick reboot with the last screen)
Do now open "MX Boot Repair"
and try to install GRUB separately.
i cant finish the installation what ever i choose. only with boot parameters like failsafe etc. i can finish the installation. which boot parameters can i choose and should i do it with UEFI or normal USB?
use failesafe. Try UEFI boot mode first - auto install entire disk.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:52 pm
by sisqonrw
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:54 pm
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:46 pm
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:41 pm
OK. Try again either UEFI or non-UEFI and do select to not install GRUB.
Does the installer finish?
When finished: Close the installer but do not reboot (untick reboot with the last screen)
Do now open "MX Boot Repair"
and try to install GRUB separately.
i cant finish the installation what ever i choose. only with boot parameters like failsafe etc. i can finish the installation. which boot parameters can i choose and should i do it with UEFI or normal USB?
use failesafe. Try UEFI boot mode first - auto install entire disk.
i have boot with UEFI usb and with failsaife.
the display resolution is 800x600
Kernel-Parameter is: quiet splash
currently it looks so that nothing froze and hang.
lookin stable.
maybe a litte bit slow but it is ok.

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System:
  Kernel: 5.16.0-5mx-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.16.0-5mx-amd64 
  root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
  dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.1_ahs_x64 Wildflower April 9  2022 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  UEFI: American Megatrends v: X541UAK.303 date: 03/30/2017 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 31.7 Wh (99.1%) condition: 32.0/34.6 Wh (92.6%) 
  volts: 10.8 min: 10.8 model: ASUSTeK ASUS Battery type: Li-ion serial: N/A 
  status: Not charging cycles: 45 
CPU:
  Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-6006U bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Skylake family: 6 model-id: 4E (78) stepping: 3 microcode: EC cache: 
  L2: 3 MiB 
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx 
  bogomips: 15999 
  Speed: 2000 MHz min/max: 400/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2000 2: 2000 
  3: 2000 4: 2000 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
  Type: l1tf 
  mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: 
  conditional, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A 
  alternate: i915 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1916 class-ID: 0300 
  Device-2: IMC Networks USB2.0 VGA UVC WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo 
  bus-ID: 1-6:2 chip-ID: 13d3:5a01 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: 
  loaded: N/A unloaded: fbdev display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 800x600 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 212x159mm (8.3x6.3") 
  s-diag: 265mm (10.4") 
  Monitor-1: default res: 800x600 hz: 75 
  OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 12.0.1 256 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 21.2.5 
  compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_skl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 
  chip-ID: 8086:9d70 class-ID: 0403 
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.16.0-5mx-amd64 running: yes 
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK 
  driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.2 chip-ID: 10ec:8136 
  class-ID: 0200 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On 
  driver: rtl8723be v: kernel modules: wl port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 
  chip-ID: 10ec:b723 class-ID: 0280 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 
  bus-ID: 1-8:3 chip-ID: 0bda:b721 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter> 
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 
  lmp-v: 4.0 sub-v: 9f73 hci-v: 4.0 rev: e2f 
  Info: acl-mtu: 820:8 sco-mtu: 255:16 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park 
  link-mode: slave accept 
  service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 15.54 GiB (1.7%) 
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM035-1RK172 
  size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
  type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: SDM1 scheme: GPT 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 923.25 GiB size: 907.69 GiB (98.31%) used: 15.54 GiB (1.7%) 
  fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) 
  fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 1 MiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
  dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2500 
Repos:
  Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1988 lib: 988 flatpak: 0 
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
  2: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:
  Processes: 224 Uptime: 4m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.66 GiB used: 1.38 GiB (18.0%) 
  Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: 
  gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 
  running-in: quick-system-info-mx inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:12 pm
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:52 pm i have boot with UEFI usb and with failsaife.
the display resolution is 800x600
Kernel-Parameter is: quiet splash
currently it looks so that nothing froze and hang.
lookin stable.
maybe a litte bit slow but it is ok.
I'd try now this:
Within the installed booted system open MX Tweak -> within one of the tabs (either "Other" or somewhere else)
you'll find something like "use intel drive" or "intel Xorg driver" or similar wording.
This will add and alternative way to enable intel driver as kernel modesetting driver seems not working ootb.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:23 pm
by sisqonrw
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:12 pm
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:52 pm i have boot with UEFI usb and with failsaife.
the display resolution is 800x600
Kernel-Parameter is: quiet splash
currently it looks so that nothing froze and hang.
lookin stable.
maybe a litte bit slow but it is ok.
I'd try now this:
Within the installed booted system open MX Tweak -> within one of the tabs (either "Other" or somewhere else)
you'll find something like "use intel drive" or "intel Xorg driver" or similar wording.
This will add and alternative way to enable intel driver as kernel modesetting driver seems not working ootb.
ok i test it. i give soon a feedback.

but installation of apps take a lot time. streamtuner2 for example 6-7 minutes.
keepassx currently 10 minutes and it isnt still installed till now.
it is a little bit to long.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:39 pm
by sisqonrw
i cant install keepassx nothing happens.

i reboot but after grub the screen is black.

93.566611 hdaudio hadaudioC0D2: Unable to configure, disabling

is given.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:51 pm
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:39 pm i cant install keepassx nothing happens.

i reboot but after grub the screen is black.

93.566611 hdaudio hadaudioC0D2: Unable to configure, disabling

is given.
Not sure whether xorg intel driver would have helped to stop the hanger.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:53 pm
by sisqonrw
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:51 pm
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:39 pm i cant install keepassx nothing happens.

i reboot but after grub the screen is black.

93.566611 hdaudio hadaudioC0D2: Unable to configure, disabling

is given.
Not sure whether xorg intel driver would have helped to stop the hanger.
i have try this "use intel drive" than i have get the problem with the black screen.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:56 pm
by sisqonrw
but i cant choose ESP mx installer choose MBR.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:09 pm
by sisqonrw
display is in a good solution.
sadly is somtimes slow and hang for 1-2 second.
what about parameters what i can add in the mx boot option? which one is suitable?

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System:    Kernel: 5.16.0-5mx-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.16.0-5mx-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.1_ahs_x64 Wildflower April 9  2022 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
           UEFI-[Legacy]: American Megatrends v: X541UAK.303 date: 03/30/2017 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 31.5 Wh (98.7%) condition: 31.9/34.6 Wh (92.2%) volts: 10.8 
           min: 10.8 model: ASUSTeK ASUS Battery type: Li-ion serial: N/A status: Not charging 
           cycles: 45 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-6006U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Skylake 
           family: 6 model-id: 4E (78) stepping: 3 microcode: EC cache: L2: 3 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 15999 
           Speed: 2000 MHz min/max: 400/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2000 2: 2000 3: 2000 
           4: 2000 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A 
           alternate: i915 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1916 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: IMC Networks USB2.0 VGA UVC WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-6:2 
           chip-ID: 13d3:5a01 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: loaded: vesa 
           display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1368x768 s-dpi: 102 s-size: 341x191mm (13.4x7.5") 
           s-diag: 391mm (15.4") 
           Monitor-1: default res: 1368x768 
           OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 12.0.1 256 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 21.2.5 compat-v: 3.1 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_skl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:9d70 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.16.0-5mx-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 
           v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.2 chip-ID: 10ec:8136 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On 
           driver: rtl8723be v: kernel modules: wl port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:b723 
           class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-8:3 
           chip-ID: 0bda:b721 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter> 
           Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0 
           sub-v: 9f73 hci-v: 4.0 rev: e2f 
           Info: acl-mtu: 820:8 sco-mtu: 255:16 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park 
           link-mode: slave accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 16.23 GiB (1.7%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM035-1RK172 
           size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
           type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: SDM1 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 923.5 GiB size: 907.93 GiB (98.31%) used: 16.23 GiB (1.8%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 268 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2400 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1988 lib: 988 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:      Processes: 214 Uptime: 5m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.66 GiB used: 1009.4 MiB (12.9%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: quick-system-info-mx 
           inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:22 pm
by sisqonrw
it is not normal that the start of libre office takes 7 minutes and install of keepassxc more than 20 minutes

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:20 pm
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:53 pm i have try this "use intel drive" than i have get the problem with the black screen.
OK, try this again "use intel driver",
and do also add boot parameter to invert intel brightness

i915.invert_brightness=1

using MX Boot Options.

Note sure about the other slowness mentioned, may be related to the drive.
Perhaps run GsmartControl from booted LiveUSB to check drive.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:39 am
by sisqonrw
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:20 pm
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:53 pm i have try this "use intel drive" than i have get the problem with the black screen.
OK, try this again "use intel driver",
and do also add boot parameter to invert intel brightness

i915.invert_brightness=1

using MX Boot Options.

Note sure about the other slowness mentioned, may be related to the drive.
Perhaps run GsmartControl from booted LiveUSB to check drive.
how can i do this

GsmartControl

and should i install the UEFI Stick Version? Because i have install the non UEFI Version but it isnt better. i mean, that the UEFI Version was better just we have the display solution problem.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:09 pm
by sisqonrw
sisqonrw wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:39 am
fehlix wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:20 pm
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:53 pm i have try this "use intel drive" than i have get the problem with the black screen.
OK, try this again "use intel driver",
and do also add boot parameter to invert intel brightness

i915.invert_brightness=1

using MX Boot Options.

Note sure about the other slowness mentioned, may be related to the drive.
Perhaps run GsmartControl from booted LiveUSB to check drive.
how can i do this

GsmartControl

and should i install the UEFI Stick Version? Because i have install the non UEFI Version but it isnt better. i mean, that the UEFI Version was better just we have the display solution problem.
the parameter is now
quiet splash 915.invert_brightness-1
i boot with uefi usb and install the ahs 64 bit version.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:30 pm
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:09 pm the parameter is now
quiet splash 915.invert_brightness-1
'ru sure or a typo. imo it should be ...=1 otherwise would be ignored:

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i915.invert_brightness=1


Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:02 am
by sisqonrw
i though that the system is fast or ok when i install over uefi usb and start after install over uefi hdd. better than when i install over non uefi.
the grafic resolution is ok. i didnt do the tweak with intel.
shutdown and reboot works. small apps like terminal, calculator, text editor open good. at the beginning big apps like libre office and firefox open slow but not sooo slow.
at the beginning its look ok it is not too slow.
but install falcon has take ca. 60 minutes.
i have start now falcon. after 5 minutes it doesnt start.
i am trying and trying but nothing will be better.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:06 am
by sisqonrw
i have set an bios admin password. how can i set it so that he do not ask it? i know the current password.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:31 am
by sisqonrw
i have done it with intel tweak now it do not boot.

hdaudio hadandioC0D2: unable to configure, disabling.

now i can not boot.

very bad and terrible.

how can i make it now undone?

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 12:23 pm
by fehlix
sisqonrw wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:31 am i have done it with intel tweak now it do not boot.

hdaudio hadandioC0D2: unable to configure, disabling.

now i can not boot.

very bad and terrible.

how can i make it now undone?
Boot from LiveUSB and remove
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
on the root partition of the installed system.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:58 pm
by sisqonrw
i have installed

MX-21.1_fluxbox_x64

it is better than

MX-21.1_fluxbox_386

and

MX-21.1_x64 and AH.

i have installed over UEFI USB Live Stick and boot always with UEFI HDD.

speed of open and using of apps is ok. could be better but it is ok.

only bad thing is intallation of apps takes a lot. for example gimp. 20 minutes are gone and he is by 23%.
why is it so i do not understand.

when i have an update it would take a week.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:08 pm
by j2mcgreg
That sounds like the main repository you are currently connected to is having problems. Go to Repo Manager in MX Tools and switch to the repository located in Alblasserdam, The Netherlands. This repository is owned and controlled by the MX team and since you reside in Germany is close to you.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:52 am
by sisqonrw
i have change it to Alblasserdam. i wanted to install libreoffice. since 12 minutes the status is 0%

unzip gimp-data ...

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:00 am
by Eadwine Rose
Have you gotten the main thing working all ok before installing these other things? Like screen and whatnot?

Maybe run speedtest on that install in a browser before installing other things.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:13 am
by sisqonrw
Eadwine Rose wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:00 am Have you gotten the main thing working all ok before installing these other things? Like screen and whatnot?

Maybe run speedtest on that install in a browser before installing other things.
all other things are ok.
i have an other notebook with kubuntu. the installation is fast. for an app not more then 3 minutes.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:23 am
by j2mcgreg
sisqonrw wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:52 am i have change it to Alblasserdam. i wanted to install libreoffice. since 12 minutes the status is 0%

unzip gimp-data ...
The possibility exists that you are being throttled by your ISP.

It's also possible that the laptop's wifi card has died. You can easily check if the wifi card is the bottleneck by running an Ethernet cable from the laptop's RJ45 jack to your router. if the wifi card does need to be replaced, here's how:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWkxx8PkOg4&t=20s

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:34 am
by Eadwine Rose
The throttling is why I suggested the speed test. :) I mean.. that would show, I guess.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:42 am
by j2mcgreg
Eadwine Rose wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:34 am The throttling is why I suggested the speed test. :) I mean.. that would show, I guess.
Sorry, it's early in the morning here and I missed your suggestion.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:50 am
by j2mcgreg
@sisqonrw

It's been really hot and humid in Germany this summer. If your home lacks air conditioning, this laptop could be malfunctioning due to overheating.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:59 am
by oops
sisqonrw wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:57 am i have installed MX-21.1_x64 on my notebook.
...
For a new install, it is probably better to download the latest MX-21.1_July_x64.iso snapshot.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mx-lin ... Snapshots/

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:23 am
by Huckleberry Finn
To Whom It May Concern:

May I ask (if you don't mind of course) (as I think I have the right for this):

What's the difference of this thread ( 8 pages , 72 posts ) with this one ?

Any different parameters or just a repeat .. or .. ?

As I was accused of being confusing "again" .

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:51 am
by Stuart_M
I'm "confused" too because I'm still trying to figure out what "MX 2.1" means in the title of this thread. And if it means MX 21.1 then why would it be repeated immediately afterwards?

My OCD goes off the charts whenever I see it, this post making #74.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:52 am
by Eadwine Rose
Folks, can we leave this thread with actual helpful posts instead of posting about wondering why someone did something. Thanks.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:07 am
by Huckleberry Finn
Stuart_M wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:51 am... then why would it be repeated immediately afterwards?
They meant the 32bit and 64 bit (tried both).

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:49 pm
by sisqonrw
how can i delete the bios admin password? i dont want anymore that the bios ask me the password.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:02 pm
by Eadwine Rose
That is googleable, you don't need us for that. You know your board, add remove bios password in the search.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:12 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
sisqonrw wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:49 pm how can i delete the bios admin password?
Enter your Bios with the password for the last time, then disable that, (save & exit). That's the only way. Even resetting Cmos (this or that way) may not remove that.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:26 pm
by pbear
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:23 am What's the difference of this thread ( 8 pages , 72 posts ) with this one ?
One of the last posts in the other thread was a request by fehlix that the OP start over. So the OP did as requested.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:26 am
by Huckleberry Finn
pbear wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:26 pm...that the OP start over. So the OP did as requested.
I did that even at post #25 , page 3, also sent a report to admins (to be done by them as it seemed the OP wanted to go on there off-topic).

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:45 pm
by Eadwine Rose
If you mark the topic solved, count on less traffic as people think it is solved.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:22 am
by sisqonrw
So I can say that it is not a hard drive and RAM issue.
I installed an Arch distribution. I installed EndeavorOS_Artemis_neo_22_7.

I had previously tested Debian and Ubuntu. I tried EndeavorOS, that is Arch Distro. If I boot the installation normally I have the problem too, but it also offers "fallback initramfs" on boot. I don't know what this is, so I no longer have the problems mentioned. The apps are quick to install, quick to open and quick to use.

Unfortunately, on Debian distributions like MX-Linux, there is no option to select "fallback initramfs".
What is that exactly?
Is it possible to type something in the MX linux boot option?

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:35 am
by j2mcgreg
A couple of observations:

All of the distros that you state you had success with are based on SystemD while MX uses SysVinit by default. It very well may be that your particular laptop requires SystemD in order to work properly. You can choose to run MX with SystemD by clicking on the Advanced category in Grub and if it improves your performance you can make it permanent with the Boot Options utility in MX Tools.

It may be that there are nuances (besides SysVinit) in the way that MX is constructed that mean your particular laptop will never run MX properly and that you may have to switch to one of the distros that work flawlessly. It happens -- I had an Acer desktop like that on which I reinstalled Win 7 and then gave away to a relative.

It may be that your laptop needs a bios update. This should be an absolute last resort since flashing the bios can easily "brick" a computer.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:19 am
by sisqonrw
Trotzdem vielen Dank für die vielen Hilfen und Antworten!

Ich muss dann leider jetzt leider EndeavourOS_Artemis_neo_22_7 nutzen.

Hätte gerne MX-LInux genutzt. Vielleicht auf einen anderen Rechner.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:58 am
by Eadwine Rose
Please add English to your post, thank you.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:04 am
by sisqonrw
Anyway, thanks a lot for the help and answers!

Unfortunately I have to use EndeavorOS_Artemis_neo_22_7 now.

Would have liked to use MX-Linux. Maybe on a different computer.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:27 am
by Huckleberry Finn
j2mcgreg wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:35 am... may be that your particular laptop requires SystemD in order to work properly. You can choose...
I suspect he even tried that:

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 11#p691811

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 27#p691827

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 84#p691984

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 85#p691985

j2mcgreg wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:35 am... It may be that your laptop needs a bios update...
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 14#p691814

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:15 pm
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:27 am
j2mcgreg wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:35 am... may be that your particular laptop requires SystemD in order to work properly. You can choose...
I suspect he even tried that:

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 11#p691811

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 27#p691827

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 84#p691984

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 85#p691985

j2mcgreg wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:35 am... It may be that your laptop needs a bios update...
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 14#p691814
do you mean that i have to try booting with systemd? would it be better?

if yes, what should i use 32 bit or 64. which version. xfce, fluxbox, ahs ...

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:41 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Start out with yes. If your system is 64 bit capable, then that one. If it is really new then ahs, otherwise just pick between what you like.. xfce, kde, fluxbox.

Personally I would stick with the 64bits standard xfce and see what that does booted in systemd first. You can always install anew later with what you prefer. Now you need to determine if systemd is the solution or not.

You can boot into it in the grub screen, selecting advanced, it should then be there if I recall correctly.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:48 pm
by j2mcgreg
@sisqonrw wrote:
do you mean that i have to try booting with systemd? would it be better?

if yes, what should i use 32 bit or 64. which version. xfce, fluxbox, ahs ...
Yes, you should try booting with SystemD. I can't swear it will definitely improve things but given your laptop's abysmal performance so far, it couldn't do any harm.

Your laptop dates from 2017 so you do not need the AHS version of MX as it is squarely aimed at machines that are less than a year old. You should be using the 64 bit version and for best results you should use either MX's Live USB Maker configured to use GPT partitioning or Rufus on Windows again with GPT partitioning. If you want to try Rufus you might ask a friend, family member or colleague if you can briefly borrow their Windows computer (provided you don't have one of your own). On Win 10 and 11 Rufus is a quick install and a just as quick removal after the fact. You would of course have to copy the MX ISO onto a second usb drive beforehand so that you can take it with you to the borrowed computer's site.

Edited to add that you should do a fresh install of MX.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:52 pm
by sisqonrw
Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:41 pm Start out with yes. If your system is 64 bit capable, then that one. If it is really new then ahs, otherwise just pick between what you like.. xfce, kde, fluxbox.

Personally I would stick with the 64bits standard xfce and see what that does booted in systemd first. You can always install anew later with what you prefer. Now you need to determine if systemd is the solution or not.

You can boot into it in the grub screen, selecting advanced, it should then be there if I recall correctly.
it is 2-3 years old and 64 bit. should i ahs or not?

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:09 pm
by j2mcgreg
@sisqonrw wrote:
it is 2-3 years old and 64 bit. should i ahs or not?
From your QSI that you posted earlier:

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Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  UEFI: American Megatrends v: X541UAK.303 date: 03/30/2017 
This tells us that your laptop's bios was activated on March 30, 2017, so your laptop is just over five years old and there will be no benefit derived from using the AHS version.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:15 am
by pbear
j2mcgreg wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:48 pm On Win 10 and 11 Rufus is a quick install and a just as quick removal after the fact.
No need to install, even. It's available as a portable.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:23 am
by sisqonrw
pbear wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:15 am
j2mcgreg wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:48 pm On Win 10 and 11 Rufus is a quick install and a just as quick removal after the fact.
No need to install, even. It's available as a portable.
i do not have Windows. I am using balena etcher

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:10 am
by j2mcgreg
@sisqonrw wrote:
i do not have Windows. I am using balena etcher
Yes, and that's a red herring since you have also stated here that you have a working, albeit slow, install of MX 21 which means that MX's own Live USB Maker should be in play. In addition to my suggestion of asking a friend for help, you could also do a search for a Linux User Group in your area. Linux User Groups (LUGS) are dedicated to promoting the use of Linux and would be sure to help you out if asked kindly. I found this list of LUGS in Germany to help you get started:

https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Category:Groups_in_Germany

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:29 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
@sisqonrw since it's ok with antiX : No need to lose time, you can install that and then if you like any Desktop Environments (maybe Xfce) .. I'd do that.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:00 pm
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:29 pm @sisqonrw since it's ok with antiX : No need to lose time, you can install that and then if you like any Desktop Environments (maybe Xfce) .. I'd do that.
sadly antix is also not ok. same problem. slow slow slow.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:07 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
It really looks like a hardware problem (yes, I hear you say it's ok with other distros).

If you can do this: Take the Rams out, then re-seat . (Many times Mem-Test shows they're ok, and this solves such frustrating (also unknown freezing etc.) issues).

Also , the aforementioned GSmartControl is in Menu, you can start it on live session (of course if that doesn't take minutes to start/run ... Alternatively, you can first install it on another distro that works fine, then run on live session)

But, since it's the same on live session, it's probably something with the Rams, not the disk.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 11:09 pm
by pbear
My advice would be different. Try booting with SystemD, as was suggested several times. If that works, hurray. If not, use whatever Linux version does work and move on.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 3:01 am
by sisqonrw
pbear wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 11:09 pm My advice would be different. Try booting with SystemD, as was suggested several times. If that works, hurray. If not, use whatever Linux version does work and move on.

i told you last time. that i have boot with systemD. with and without UEFI. it is more slow than without systemD.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:01 am
by Huckleberry Finn

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:11 am
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:01 am @pbear it was already suggested many times and the result is in the other thread that has been locked.
oh i have to post it here. sorry. i didnt see it. sorry.

i boot with systemd. the results are in the attachment.

with systemd is more slow than without systemd. i have boot systemd with and without UEFI.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:37 am
by Huckleberry Finn
Erhan, if you can do it, you just need a tiny screwdriver. Also no harm, no matter it's ok with other distros etc. Just take them out, then put back. (If it's removable: don't forget to take the battery out first .)

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:05 am
by j2mcgreg
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:37 am Erhan, if you can do it, you just need a tiny screwdriver. Also no harm, no matter it's ok with other distros etc. Just take them out, then put back. (If it's removable: don't forget to take the battery out first .)

In the instance of the Asus X541UAK, I think that I would recommend that he pay a technician to do it as it's not not for the faint of heart. See here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHAH42VKEHk

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:22 am
by pbear
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:01 am @pbear it was already suggested many times and the result is in the other thread that has been locked.
Thanks. Frankly, it hadn't occurred to me to check the prior thread.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:52 am
by sisqonrw
j2mcgreg wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:05 am
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:37 am Erhan, if you can do it, you just need a tiny screwdriver. Also no harm, no matter it's ok with other distros etc. Just take them out, then put back. (If it's removable: don't forget to take the battery out first .)

In the instance of the Asus X541UAK, I think that I would recommend that he pay a technician to do it as it's not not for the faint of heart. See here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHAH42VKEHk
i am not thinking that is a RAM Problem. Wyh? Because EndeavourOS_Artemis_neo_22_7 and Manjaro-ARM-xfce-generic-22.08 is working fine. both distrobutions are not slow. they are normal fast. only Debian Distros are very slow. i every case. i dont know why. we testet many thinks.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:04 am
by Huckleberry Finn
sisqonrw wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:52 am...only Debian Distros are very slow...
Then the only thing: There's something with Debian kernels.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:08 am
by sisqonrw
do not understand wrong. i like debian and want debian. especially MX-Linux. we can do nothing. it is only a feedback. we tried many thinks. thank you for your helps

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:14 am
by j2mcgreg
The problem is hardware and it is unique to the Asus X541U, X541UA,and X541UAK models. Further research shows that while Arch and Arch based distros like Manjaro and Endeavour OS will install and run without issue, Debian and Debian based distros and Ubuntu based distros will not run properly without intervention. For an explanation read this first:

https://techfocusalexn.wordpress.com/20 ... us-laptop/

and then read this:

https://askubuntu.com/questions/771899/ ... -corrected

The problem with applying kernel parameters like:

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pci=nomsi
and

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pci=noerr
is that while the immediate problem may seem solved, there is no telling what other sub-systems these parameters have hobbled. My advice to you is to pick the Arch based distro you like the best and run with it.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:56 am
by Huckleberry Finn
Good catch !

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 16#p684616

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 01#p685401


Though not exactly the same, this was X541UV with the same card (though it also had an Nvidia as the 2nd one)

Intel HD Graphics 510 ... chip-ID: 8086:1906


... With a similar cpu (just, core i3 vs i5 , all the rest is the same):

Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-6198DU bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Skylake
family: 6 model-id: 4E (78) stepping: 3 microcode: EC cache: L2: 3 MiB

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:20 am
by sisqonrw
Ok thanks. i do it but do not understand wrong. you all are here the best!

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:21 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
In the meantime, you have a tiny typo here:
j2mcgreg wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:14 am... and

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pci=noerr
...

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:29 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
Erhan, if that sounds confusing, you can even do this at once:

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pci=nommconf,nomsi,noaer pcie_aspm=off
( "MX Boot Options" from Menu, paste into "Kernel Parameters" box (with a space before it) , "Apply", Reboot)

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:08 pm
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:29 pm Erhan, if that sounds confusing, you can even do this at once:

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pci=nommconf,nomsi,noaer pcie_aspm=off
( "MX Boot Options" from Menu, paste into "Kernel Parameters" box (with a space before it) , "Apply", Reboot)
is everything ok? see attachment.

app starting and using are normal fast. is ok.

the grafik is only in low resolution. can i fix it to anyway?

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:38 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
Yep. That's it.

So, it sounds like the boot time is also better.

As for the resolution: Can you post the current quick system info from menu?

Just directly "paste" into your post.


In the meantime, the one in the link was ok with 5.10 kernel and "modesetting" : 1366x768


P.S. You can use the same parameters on live session, too, also with antiX. ( At least this one pcie_aspm=off )

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:46 pm
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:38 pm Yep. That's it.

So, it sounds like the boot time is also better.

As for the resolution: Can you post the current quick system info from menu?

Just directly "paste" into your post.


In the meantime, the one in the link was ok with 5.10 kernel and "modesetting" : 1366x768


P.S. You can use the same parameters on live session, too, also with antiX. ( At least this one pcie_aspm=off )

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System:
  Kernel: 5.10.0-13-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-13-amd64 
  root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
  pci=nommconf,nomsi,noaer pcie_aspm=off 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
  dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.1_x64 Wildflower April 9  2022 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X541UAK v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  UEFI: American Megatrends v: X541UAK.303 date: 03/30/2017 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 32.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 32.1/34.6 Wh (92.8%) 
  volts: 10.8 min: 10.8 model: ASUSTeK ASUS Battery type: Li-ion serial: N/A 
  status: Not charging cycles: 45 
CPU:
  Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-6006U bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Skylake family: 6 model-id: 4E (78) stepping: 3 microcode: EC cache: 
  L2: 3 MiB 
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx 
  bogomips: 15999 
  Speed: 535 MHz min/max: 400/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 535 2: 584 3: 594 
  4: 535 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
  Type: l1tf 
  mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: 
  conditional, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A 
  alternate: i915 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1916 class-ID: 0300 
  Device-2: IMC Networks USB2.0 VGA UVC WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo 
  bus-ID: 1-6:3 chip-ID: 13d3:5a01 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: 
  loaded: N/A unloaded: fbdev display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 800x600 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 212x159mm (8.3x6.3") 
  s-diag: 265mm (10.4") 
  Monitor-1: default res: 800x600 hz: 75 
  OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.1 256 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 
  compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_skl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 
  chip-ID: 8086:9d70 class-ID: 0403 
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-13-amd64 running: yes 
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK 
  driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.2 chip-ID: 10ec:8136 
  class-ID: 0200 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On 
  driver: rtl8723be v: kernel modules: wl port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 
  chip-ID: 10ec:b723 class-ID: 0280 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 
  bus-ID: 1-8:4 chip-ID: 0bda:b721 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter> 
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 
  lmp-v: 4.0 sub-v: 9f73 hci-v: 4.0 rev: e2f 
  Info: acl-mtu: 820:8 sco-mtu: 255:16 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park 
  link-mode: slave accept 
  service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 23.16 GiB (2.5%) 
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM035-1RK172 
  size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
  type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: SDM1 scheme: GPT 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 923.25 GiB size: 907.69 GiB (98.31%) used: 23.16 GiB (2.6%) 
  fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) 
  fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
  dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 34.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2100 
Repos:
  Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2226 lib: 1187 flatpak: 0 
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://nl.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 200 Uptime: 2h 7m wakeups: 3 Memory: 7.66 GiB 
  used: 1.04 GiB (13.6%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 
  tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: bash 
  default: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: quick-system-info-mx inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:49 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
Though you didn't use nomodeset , the drivers were not loaded: driver: N/A

therefore it looks 800x600

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sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:50 pm
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:49 pm Though you didn't use nomodeset , the drivers were not loaded: driver: N/A

therefore it looks 800x600

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sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
should i use nomodeset?
or what can i do?

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:55 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
No, no, that one is just to use temporarily on live session (and when only you "have to" .. to disable the real drivers).


Apply the above command, also:

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sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*intel.conf
Reboot.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:16 pm
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:55 pm No, no, that one is just to use temporarily on live session (and when only you "have to" .. to disable the real drivers).


Apply the above command, also:

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sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*intel.conf
Reboot.
i do both but no file found. i restarted but same low solotion

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:21 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
Ok. Just something's preventing the Intel driver from being loaded.

What about this?

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echo -e 'i915\n\nloop' | sudo tee /etc/modules
Reboot.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:28 pm
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:21 pm Ok. Just something's preventing the Intel driver from being loaded.

What about this?

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echo -e 'i915\n\nloop' | sudo tee /etc/modules
Reboot.
echo -e 'i915\n\nloop' | sudo tee /etc/modules
[sudo] Passwort für Ali:
i915

loop

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:30 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
Ok, just reboot.


If still not:

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sudo modprobe i915 ; sudo update-initramfs -uk all
Reboot.


If not again:

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ll /etc/modprobe.d/

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cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:38 pm
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:30 pm Ok, just reboot.


If still not:

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sudo modprobe i915 ; sudo update-initramfs -uk all
Reboot.


If not again:

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ll /etc/modprobe.d/

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cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
sudo modprobe i915 ; sudo update-initramfs -uk all
[sudo] Passwort für Ali:
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.10.0-17-amd64
I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/sda3
I: (UUID=ac193714-422d-4f72-a1e1-0ea395ba1014)
I: Set the RESUME variable to override this.
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.10.0-13-amd64
I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/sda3
I: (UUID=ac193714-422d-4f72-a1e1-0ea395ba1014)
I: Set the RESUME variable to override this.
result is low resolution

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:40 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
Did you reboot?

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:41 pm
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:40 pm Did you reboot?
ll /etc/modprobe.d/
insgesamt 44K
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 154 20. Dez 2019 amd64-microcode-blacklist.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 180 17. Mai 2021 broadcom-sta-dkms.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 150 3. Apr 02:52 dkms.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 103 14. Apr 2019 fbdev-blacklist-nvidia.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 572 27. Jul 2017 hang-on-shutdown.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 666 27. Jul 2017 i915-power-saving.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 154 20. Mär 21:40 intel-microcode-blacklist.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 335 8. Feb 2018 kfd.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 358 28. Aug 20:48 live-blacklist.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 379 10. Feb 2021 mdadm.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 278 9. Apr 00:27 pc-speaker.conf
Ali@alibaba:~
$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
cat: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:42 pm
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:40 pm Did you reboot?
yes i did but low resolution.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:43 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
If you boot any live usb (any you like: MX/antiX 32/64) with these boot parameters only, does it boot / work normal now and is the resolution ok there?

( pci=nommconf,nomsi,noaer pcie_aspm=off ) (You can try only pcie_aspm=off if you like)

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:55 pm
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:43 pm If you boot any live usb (any you like: MX/antiX 32/64) with these boot parameters only, does it boot / work normal now and is the resolution ok there?

( pci=nommconf,nomsi,noaer pcie_aspm=off ) (You can try only pcie_aspm=off if you like)
with and withou "pci=nommconf,nomsi,noaer pcie_aspm=off " over live usb stick the resolution is high.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:03 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
Ok. These ones are just for those slow boot and slow working issues.

So, if you don't feel lazy, (rather than trying to find what causes that, cause you tried many things)

You can install for the last time, your favorite one and use only these parameters and do nothing else. (Just boot with these and install)... Then let us know if everything's fine.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:44 am
by sisqonrw
what do you mean? i do not understand.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 5:00 am
by itsme
I installed MX-21.1 and it installed just fine.
Confused.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:43 am
by Huckleberry Finn
sisqonrw wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:44 am what do you mean? i do not understand.
I mean: Since the resolution (hence the drivers) is ok on live session and since we know that these parameters solve the slow boot & slow working issues:

Just boot with live usb using these parameters (only these other than quiet splash splasht and nothing else: no failsafe and particularly no nomodeset ) , then install.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:44 am
by Huckleberry Finn
@itsme this one is just a specific problem with this brand and model(s), hence such parameters ...

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:15 am
by Huckleberry Finn
@sisqonrw look: With your MX AHS (with 5.16 kernel) it was ok:

Graphics: Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel
bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1916 class-ID: 0300
Device-2: IMC Networks USB2.0 VGA UVC WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-6:3
chip-ID: 13d3:5a01 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver:
loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0")
s-diag: 414mm (16.3")
Monitor-1: eDP-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101 size: 344x193mm (13.5x7.6")
diag: 394mm (15.5")
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 520 (SKL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 21.2.5
direct render: Yes

So, you can boot with AHS with these if you like, then install:

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quiet nosplash lang=de_DE pci=nommconf,nomsi,noaer pcie_aspm=off
Or simply try:

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quiet nosplash lang=de_DE pcie_aspm=off

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow  [Solved]

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:15 pm
by sisqonrw
its working with ahs 64 bit. it is fast with the parameters. see attatchment.

open, using and installing apps ist fast. and it is a high resolution.

only when i am using the installed firefox the system froze. i have deinstall firefox and install chrome. no frozing!

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:53 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
:number1:

So glad to hear that. Also special thanks to @j2mcgreg for reminding those specific (problematic) models :)

... You can also try other browsers (maybe Slimjet) if you like.. and also on Firefox you can try what happens if you disable "hardware acceleration" in its settings.

If you feel it's solved, you can (and please) mark the thread like this:

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:56 pm
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:53 pm :number1:

So glad to hear that. Also special thanks to @j2mcgreg for reminding those specific (problematic) models :)

... You can also try other browsers (maybe Slimjet) if you like.. and also on Firefox you can try what happens if you disable "hardware acceleration" in its settings.

If you feel it's solved, you can (and please) mark the thread like this:
can you send me an screenshot where can i do this with the hardware acceleration

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:58 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
Just in the settings (preferences) of the browser itself (Firefox in this case).. just open its settings and type that to search, you'll see.

(It may also be an issue just due to this version of Firefox, nothing to worry about)


In the meantime, it's really so nice to see this as "solved" :D

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:51 pm
by Stuart_M
sisqonrw wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:56 pm ...
can you send me an screenshot where can i do this with the hardware acceleration
This is not a screenshot but just as good, go to https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/pe ... e-settings which will clearly show where and how to disable "hardware acceleration" in Firefox as well as a little screenshot.

Note that the "hardware acceleration" setting is somewhat "hidden" under the "Use recommended performance setting" so you will not see "hardware acceleration" unless you first unckeck "Use recommended performance settings" under the "Performance heading".



Side note; Chrome is my browser of choice. No regrets.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 3:09 pm
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:58 pm Just in the settings (preferences) of the browser itself (Firefox in this case).. just open its settings and type that to search, you'll see.

(It may also be an issue just due to this version of Firefox, nothing to worry about)


In the meantime, it's really so nice to see this as "solved" :D
thank you for your best support

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 3:18 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
You're very welcome :)

_____________________________________

Before I forget: You can later install more recent kernels from "MX Package Installer" - "Popular Apps" tab, as they appear, for today: 5.18 . Soon 5.19 (though it's already in Test Repo /Debian Backports tabs) .. then 6.0 ...

(To keep it up-to-date for security & bug fixes, as the AHS kernel doesn't get upgraded automatically)

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 3:25 pm
by sisqonrw
i have installed Firefox ESP. it is very fast. no froozing.
slimjet is also fine

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:02 pm
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 3:18 pm You're very welcome :)

_____________________________________

Before I forget: You can later install more recent kernels from "MX Package Installer" - "Popular Apps" tab, as they appear, for today: 5.18 . Soon 5.19 (though it's already in Test Repo /Debian Backports tabs) .. then 6.0 ...

(To keep it up-to-date for security & bug fixes, as the AHS kernel doesn't get upgraded automatically)
what is the name of the app?

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:04 am
by Huckleberry Finn
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Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:10 am
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:04 am .
ok and i have to do it oftern manually with the latest version? may be every 3 month?

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:15 am
by Huckleberry Finn
Just whenever new ones are available there, no specific intervals :)

(In fact, you don't "have to" .. This is just to stay up-to-date .. security & bug fixes)

________________________________

By the way:

In case of a problem (even a boot problem) you'll find the older kernels in "Advanced Options" in Grub menu, you can boot with them.

Also, if everything's ok with the new kernel, you can remove some older ones with "MX Cleanup" (Kernel Removal Tool below) with 2 clicks easily...

... Or, in case you'd like to remove any kernel (no matter new/old) you can do it same way as installation (as above) or with "MX Cleanup" (when booted with the other kernel you want to keep).

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:23 am
by sisqonrw
ok thank you.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:24 am
by Huckleberry Finn
You're always welcome :)