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Re: MX-21 fluxbox beta 1 feedback thread.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:25 am
by Jerry3904
kobaian wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:01 am Bad news...
If I try to install nvidia proprietary drives, I get this:

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nvidia driver not available, check your repo sources

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Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 
           chip ID: 10de:0614 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           compositor: compton v: 1 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: NV92 v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes
With nouveau I've got problems with screen-tearing. I'm trying now to fix it using compton. It partially succeded, but the effect is still not so satisfactory as in MX19 with proprietary drives.

In MX19 only with KDE nouveau works well out of the box. In XFCE it is possible to deal with a problem changing some settings. Dealing with noveau and Fluxbox is a really hard job... Hopefully I will not have to move to KDE on my main machine and stay with MXFluxbox only on laptops... :frown:
I suggest you post this also in the main mx-21 Xfce feedback thread, where the main nvidia Devs are more likely to see it. If you didn't do this already, you might search that feedback thread since I seem to remember seeing nvidia posts being made.

Re: MX-21 fluxbox beta 1 feedback thread.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:33 am
by dolphin_oracle
kobaian wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:01 am Bad news...
If I try to install nvidia proprietary drives, I get this:

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nvidia driver not available, check your repo sources

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Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 
           chip ID: 10de:0614 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           compositor: compton v: 1 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: NV92 v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes
With nouveau I've got problems with screen-tearing. I'm trying now to fix it using compton. It partially succeded, but the effect is still not so satisfactory as in MX19 with proprietary drives.

In MX19 only with KDE nouveau works well out of the box. In XFCE it is possible to deal with a problem changing some settings. Dealing with noveau and Fluxbox is a really hard job... Hopefully I will not have to move to KDE on my main machine and stay with MXFluxbox only on laptops... :frown:
Can you post you /var/log/ddm.log file and the output of both

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nvidia-detect
And

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nvidia-detect-mx
After you do updates.

Re: MX-21 fluxbox beta 1 feedback thread.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:02 am
by kobaian
dolphin_oracle wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:33 am Can you post you /var/log/ddm.log file and the output of both

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tworzenie blokady ...
===================================
Zainstaluj sterowniki dla: nvidia
Zacznij od (m/d/r): 08/24/2021 07:25:16
===================================

========================================
========================================

To restore open source drivers use:  
sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia

========================================
========================================

Odświeżanie Źródeł z apt-get update
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Czy chcesz sprawdzić repozytorium MX Test w poszukiwaniu nowszej wersji?
Ok...
Odświeżanie Źródeł z apt-get update
Instalowanie najnowszego pakietu nvidia-detect
Czytanie list pakietów...
Budowanie drzewa zależności...
Odczyt informacji o stanie...
nvidia-detect is already the newest version (460.91.03-1).
0 aktualizowanych, 0 nowo instalowanych, 0 usuwanych i 4 nieaktualizowanych.
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Main repo candidate is:  
MX Test repo candidate is:  
Zainstalowany to:
Który sterownik chcesz zainstalować?

Główneg repozytoria lub MX Test

1: Główne

2: MX Test

3: Wyjście

Wpisz numer wyboru
Ok...
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
nvidia driver not available, check your repo sources


Naciśnij <Enter> aby wyjśćtworzenie blokady ...
===================================
Zainstaluj sterowniki dla: nvidia
Zacznij od (m/d/r): 08/24/2021 13:27:29
===================================

========================================
========================================

To restore open source drivers use:  
sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia

========================================
========================================

Odświeżanie Źródeł z apt-get update
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Czy chcesz sprawdzić repozytorium MX Test w poszukiwaniu nowszej wersji?


Naciśnij <Enter> aby wyjśćtworzenie blokady ...
===================================
Zainstaluj sterowniki dla: nvidia
Zacznij od (m/d/r): 08/24/2021 13:30:20
===================================

========================================
========================================

To restore open source drivers use:  
sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia

========================================
========================================

Odświeżanie Źródeł z apt-get update
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Czy chcesz sprawdzić repozytorium MX Test w poszukiwaniu nowszej wersji?
Ok...
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
nvidia driver not available, check your repo sources


Naciśnij <Enter> aby wyjśćtworzenie blokady ...
===================================
Zainstaluj sterowniki dla: nvidia
Zacznij od (m/d/r): 08/26/2021 11:33:56
===================================

========================================
========================================

To restore open source drivers use:  
sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia

========================================
========================================

Odświeżanie Źródeł z apt-get update
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Czy chcesz sprawdzić repozytorium MX Test w poszukiwaniu nowszej wersji?
Ok...
Odświeżanie Źródeł z apt-get update
Instalowanie najnowszego pakietu nvidia-detect
Czytanie list pakietów...
Budowanie drzewa zależności...
Odczyt informacji o stanie...
nvidia-detect is already the newest version (460.91.03-1).
0 aktualizowanych, 0 nowo instalowanych, 0 usuwanych i 7 nieaktualizowanych.
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Main repo candidate is:  
MX Test repo candidate is:  
Zainstalowany to:
Który sterownik chcesz zainstalować?

Główneg repozytoria lub MX Test

1: Główne

2: MX Test

3: Wyjście

Wpisz numer wyboru
Ok...
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
nvidia driver not available, check your repo sources


Naciśnij <Enter> aby wyjśćtworzenie blokady ...
===================================
Zainstaluj sterowniki dla: nvidia
Zacznij od (m/d/r): 08/26/2021 12:42:05
===================================

========================================
========================================

To restore open source drivers use:  
sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia

========================================
========================================

Odświeżanie Źródeł z apt-get update
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Czy chcesz sprawdzić repozytorium MX Test w poszukiwaniu nowszej wersji?


Naciśnij <Enter> aby wyjśćtworzenie blokady ...
===================================
Zainstaluj sterowniki dla: nvidia
Zacznij od (m/d/r): 08/26/2021 12:43:24
===================================

========================================
========================================

To restore open source drivers use:  
sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia

========================================
========================================

Odświeżanie Źródeł z apt-get update
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Czy chcesz sprawdzić repozytorium MX Test w poszukiwaniu nowszej wersji?
Ok...
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
nvidia driver not available, check your repo sources


Naciśnij <Enter> aby wyjśćtworzenie blokady ...
===================================
Zainstaluj sterowniki dla: nvidia
Zacznij od (m/d/r): 08/26/2021 12:44:12
===================================

========================================
========================================

To restore open source drivers use:  
sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia

========================================
========================================

Odświeżanie Źródeł z apt-get update
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Czy chcesz sprawdzić repozytorium MX Test w poszukiwaniu nowszej wersji?
Ok...
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
Kandydat to:
Zainstalowany to:
nvidia driver not available, check your repo sources


Naciśnij <Enter> aby wyjść
I'm affraid we've got the answer and is not optimistic for me:

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test@mxfb21:~
$ nvidia-detect
Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] [10de:0614] (rev a2)

Checking card:  NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] (rev a2)
Your card is only supported by the 340 legacy drivers series, which is only available up to buster.

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test@mxfb21:~
$ nvidia-detect-mx
Latest =  460.91.03
Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] [10de:0614] (rev a2)

Checking card:  NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] (rev a2)
Uh oh. Your card is only supported by the 340 legacy drivers series, which is not in any current Debian suite.
So probably there are only two options for me: spending another day dealing with noveau and compton or buy a newer graphics...

Re: MX-21 fluxbox beta 1 feedback thread.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:04 am
by dolphin_oracle
Yes. Although the ddm tool should have told you that. What version of ddm-mx do you have?

Re: MX-21 fluxbox beta 1 feedback thread.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:22 am
by kobaian
dolphin_oracle wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:04 am Yes. Although the ddm tool should have told you that. What version of ddm-mx do you have?

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test@mxfb21:~
$ apt-cache policy ddm-mx
ddm-mx:
  Zainstalowana: 21.08.03mx21
  Kandydująca:   21.08.03mx21
  Tabela wersji:
 *** 21.08.03mx21 500
        500 http://ftp.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/dist/antix-workspace/mx/repo bullseye/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://ftp.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/dist/antix-workspace/mx/repo bullseye/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Re: MX-21 fluxbox beta 1 feedback thread.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:24 am
by dolphin_oracle
kobaian wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:22 am
dolphin_oracle wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:04 am Yes. Although the ddm tool should have told you that. What version of ddm-mx do you have?

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test@mxfb21:~
$ apt-cache policy ddm-mx
ddm-mx:
  Zainstalowana: 21.08.03mx21
  Kandydująca:   21.08.03mx21
  Tabela wersji:
 *** 21.08.03mx21 500
        500 http://ftp.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/dist/antix-workspace/mx/repo bullseye/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://ftp.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/dist/antix-workspace/mx/repo bullseye/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
thanks. apparently the reporting in the tool needs some work.

Re: MX-21 fluxbox beta 1 feedback thread.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:08 pm
by siamhie
There's two entries for Application Finder under All Apps>Accessories.

#1
[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Exec=xfce4-appfinder
NoDisplay=false
Icon=mxfcelogo-rounded
StartupNotify=true
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=Utility;X-XFCE;
Name=Application Finder

Comment[zh_TW]=尋找並啟動您系統上安裝的應用程式

#2
[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Exec=xfce4-appfinder
Icon=org.xfce.appfinder
StartupNotify=true
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=Utility;X-XFCE;
Name=Application Finder

Comment[zh_TW]=尋找並啟動您系統上安裝的應用程式
Keywords=program;applications;bookmarks;
Keywords[be]=праграма;праграмы;закладкі;
Keywords[bg]=програма;приложения, отметки;
Keywords[ca]=programar;aplicacions;marcadors;
etc, etc, etc....

I tried to remove the first entry manually from (.fluxbox/submenus/full_menu) but it comes back when you select update menu.

Image

Re: MX-21 fluxbox beta 1 feedback thread.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:57 pm
by Jerry3904
That's because we created a second desktop file in order to get the tint2 panel to accept the config we wanted. Not sure that's still necessary, thanks, will take a look.

EDIT: nope, apparently not. I took it out and rebooted, and now there's only the one with the MX logo. Not totally sure what will happen with an upgrade, but I guess we'll find out.

Re: MX-21 fluxbox beta 1 feedback thread.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:17 pm
by i_ri
so make good the double entry by making one of them show appfinder compact; add "-c" to one of the full menu entry commands(?)
(Application Finder ) { xfce4-appfinder }
(Application Finder ) { xfce4-appfinder -c}
the -c or --collapsed brings compact run mode of appfinder.
make good of the two entries. for now, customize it while it is there and excuse the double entry (?)

Re: MX-21 fluxbox beta 1 feedback thread.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:18 pm
by Jerry3904
Worth considering, thanks. We have the native fbrun for that purpose already so not sure about doing that.
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