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Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 3:01 am
by sisqonrw
pbear wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 11:09 pm My advice would be different. Try booting with SystemD, as was suggested several times. If that works, hurray. If not, use whatever Linux version does work and move on.

i told you last time. that i have boot with systemD. with and without UEFI. it is more slow than without systemD.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:01 am
by Huckleberry Finn

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:11 am
by sisqonrw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:01 am @pbear it was already suggested many times and the result is in the other thread that has been locked.
oh i have to post it here. sorry. i didnt see it. sorry.

i boot with systemd. the results are in the attachment.

with systemd is more slow than without systemd. i have boot systemd with and without UEFI.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:37 am
by Huckleberry Finn
Erhan, if you can do it, you just need a tiny screwdriver. Also no harm, no matter it's ok with other distros etc. Just take them out, then put back. (If it's removable: don't forget to take the battery out first .)

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:05 am
by j2mcgreg
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:37 am Erhan, if you can do it, you just need a tiny screwdriver. Also no harm, no matter it's ok with other distros etc. Just take them out, then put back. (If it's removable: don't forget to take the battery out first .)

In the instance of the Asus X541UAK, I think that I would recommend that he pay a technician to do it as it's not not for the faint of heart. See here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHAH42VKEHk

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:22 am
by pbear
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:01 am @pbear it was already suggested many times and the result is in the other thread that has been locked.
Thanks. Frankly, it hadn't occurred to me to check the prior thread.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:52 am
by sisqonrw
j2mcgreg wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:05 am
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:37 am Erhan, if you can do it, you just need a tiny screwdriver. Also no harm, no matter it's ok with other distros etc. Just take them out, then put back. (If it's removable: don't forget to take the battery out first .)

In the instance of the Asus X541UAK, I think that I would recommend that he pay a technician to do it as it's not not for the faint of heart. See here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHAH42VKEHk
i am not thinking that is a RAM Problem. Wyh? Because EndeavourOS_Artemis_neo_22_7 and Manjaro-ARM-xfce-generic-22.08 is working fine. both distrobutions are not slow. they are normal fast. only Debian Distros are very slow. i every case. i dont know why. we testet many thinks.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:04 am
by Huckleberry Finn
sisqonrw wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:52 am...only Debian Distros are very slow...
Then the only thing: There's something with Debian kernels.

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:08 am
by sisqonrw
do not understand wrong. i like debian and want debian. especially MX-Linux. we can do nothing. it is only a feedback. we tried many thinks. thank you for your helps

Re: installed MX 2.1 MX-21.1_x64 so slow

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:14 am
by j2mcgreg
The problem is hardware and it is unique to the Asus X541U, X541UA,and X541UAK models. Further research shows that while Arch and Arch based distros like Manjaro and Endeavour OS will install and run without issue, Debian and Debian based distros and Ubuntu based distros will not run properly without intervention. For an explanation read this first:

https://techfocusalexn.wordpress.com/20 ... us-laptop/

and then read this:

https://askubuntu.com/questions/771899/ ... -corrected

The problem with applying kernel parameters like:

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pci=nomsi
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pci=noerr
is that while the immediate problem may seem solved, there is no telling what other sub-systems these parameters have hobbled. My advice to you is to pick the Arch based distro you like the best and run with it.