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Re: Budgie works in Sysvinit in Devuan, but not in Sysvinit in MX-Linux.
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:13 am
by Senpai
dolphin_oracle wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:17 am
I didn't have a problem with "logout" on budgie under sysVinit.
installing budgie did remove Xfce, which I didn't realize was going to happen. will probably remove from "Popular Apps" for that reason.
Curious..., It didn't uninstall anything for me because I installed it in an installation derived from the ISO I have without Fluxbox or DE, and directly installed from the main repository, not from Popular Applications, but I guess it will install the same packages.
Re: Budgie works in Sysvinit in Devuan, but not in Sysvinit in MX-Linux.
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:45 am
by dolphin_oracle
Senpai wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:13 am
dolphin_oracle wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:17 am
I didn't have a problem with "logout" on budgie under sysVinit.
installing budgie did remove Xfce, which I didn't realize was going to happen. will probably remove from "Popular Apps" for that reason.
Curious..., It didn't uninstall anything for me because I installed it in an installation derived from the ISO I have without Fluxbox or DE, and directly installed from the main repository, not from Popular Applications, but I guess it will install the same packages.
the conflict is with the new libxfcewindowing libraries. so only affects us since moving to xfce 4.20.
@asqwerth manjaro being rolling it probably has libraries lined up better.
Re: Budgie works in Sysvinit in Devuan, but not in Sysvinit in MX-Linux.
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 11:35 am
by macronus
I don't know enough about Sysvinit vs Systemd to issue any definitive statement about any underlying problem responsible for this budgie logout problem. If anything, the explanations offered here strike me as being more plausible than to blame this on budgie-screensaver not being installed which appears to be the explanation offered in the following github exchange:
https://github.com/solus-project/budgie ... ssues/2145
(Let me point out that this is from four years ago. Also that budgie-screensaver is not available anywhere within the MX Package Installer.)
I only bring this up because the OP might be able to test uninstalling budgie-screensaver from his working Devuan installation to see if this triggers the budgie logout problem confirming that this is indeed the cause.
Re: Budgie works in Sysvinit in Devuan, but not in Sysvinit in MX-Linux.
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:42 pm
by Senpai
macronus wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 11:35 am
I don't know enough about Sysvinit vs Systemd to issue any definitive statement about any underlying problem responsible for this budgie logout problem. If anything, the explanations offered here strike me as being more plausible than to blame this on budgie-screensaver not being installed which appears to be the explanation offered in the following github exchange:
https://github.com/solus-project/budgie ... ssues/2145
(Let me point out that this is from four years ago. Also that budgie-screensaver is not available anywhere within the MX Package Installer.)
I only bring this up because the OP might be able to test uninstalling budgie-screensaver from his working Devuan installation to see if this triggers the budgie logout problem confirming that this is indeed the cause.
Hi:
It does not seem to be the problem, budgie-screensaver, does not exist in Devuan either, instead there is gnome-screensaver, that gave me the idea to look at the differences between the two installations and looking for gnome-xxxx, I installed in MX-Budgie what was missing compared to Devuan-Budgie, but the result is the same, it still fails to logout in MX, so as dolphin_oracle says it seems that the problem is with “systemd-shim”.
Best regards