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Vivaldi challenges (open external link in new background tab, in my case)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 8:57 am
by Eadwine Rose
@Jerry3904 was wondering what challenges we are facing in Vivaldi, and now that Chrome is being annoying with their font rendering, I have switched to that.

I have gotten it almost to exactly what I like, there is only one thing that I cannot get to work and that is EXTERNAL links opening in a new background tab.


In Chrome I have an extension to handle that, "Force Background Tab". However, that one does not work in Vivaldi. Likely because Vivaldi has extensive tab options that just override that thing. Bummer, because when I went to open multiple things to read later from the feed reader I am now searching for the tab that I was actually working in before I went to the feed reader, because everything opened as plain new active tabs.


Waaay back in the day when I was running Opera you'd be able to use command line switches to do that, something looking like

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/usr/bin/opera --new background tab
or something like that.

You'd pop that in the feed reader preferences, and it would do exactly what I wanted.


Note that this is only the case for OUTSIDE the browser links. External links. Clicking links in the browser, those settings to load in the same window background tab, they work just fine. But when an EXTERNAL thing comes in it fails to do that. I wish I know how to sort it.



QSI for nags :p

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Re: Vivaldi challenges (open external link in new background tab, in my case)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 9:35 am
by Jerry3904
Not sure I get your use case correctly, but I use a middle click all the time to open a link in a background tab. Here is the Viv Wiki on that:

https://vivaldi-wiki.readthedocs.io/Set ... round-tab/

I really like Vivaldi so this thread could be very helpful. I have some items of my own...

Re: Vivaldi challenges (open external link in new background tab, in my case)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 9:45 am
by Eadwine Rose
Yep.. and that is exactly what I mean with from within the browser it is all fine.


EXTERNAL links are giving the issue. So.. from a mail program, like thunderbird, or liferea feed reader, or... any program where you click a link that opens in an open instance of vivaldi. The link does not originate IN vivaldi.

Re: Vivaldi challenges (open external link in new background tab, in my case)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 10:08 am
by Jerry3904
Ah. I see that as well, just haven't ever followed it up ... Does it still happen if the default browser is Firefox, for example?

Re: Vivaldi challenges (open external link in new background tab, in my case)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 10:12 am
by Eadwine Rose
Chrome was my default. It happens there as well, I used the extension to make it work.

That extension doesn't work in Vivaldi.

Re: Vivaldi challenges (open external link in new background tab, in my case)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:14 am
by CharlesV
I dont have Vivaldi loaded atm, but didnt I see a setting for Open in background in the settings? ( or something like that - turning it off maybe.)

Settings > Tabs > New Tab Position as I recall.

Re: Vivaldi challenges (open external link in new background tab, in my case)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:27 am
by siamhie
What does this command show?

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xdg-settings get default-web-browser 

Re: Vivaldi challenges (open external link in new background tab, in my case)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:33 am
by Jerry3904
CharlesV wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:14 am I dont have Vivaldi loaded atm, but didnt I see a setting for Open in background in the settings? ( or something like that - turning it off maybe.)

Settings > Tabs > New Tab Position as I recall.
Yes, but that's when dealing with a link inside Vivaldi. I do see a possibility "New tab from link opens in background" that I just clicked but haven't tested:


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Re: Vivaldi challenges (open external link in new background tab, in my case)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:34 am
by Eadwine Rose
I have that set up Jerry, doesn't help.

Re: Vivaldi challenges (open external link in new background tab, in my case)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:36 am
by Eadwine Rose
The default browser is set within MX AND using :

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root@eadwineMX23:/home/eadwine# update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
Been around the block with browser issues. ;)


So.. of course.

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eadwine@eadwineMX23:~
$ xdg-settings get default-web-browser 
vivaldi.desktop

You'd know if that wasn't set to vivaldi ;) Something else would open.

Re: Vivaldi challenges (open external link in new background tab, in my case)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 2:45 pm
by siamhie
Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:36 am The default browser is set within MX AND using :

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root@eadwineMX23:/home/eadwine# update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
Been around the block with browser issues. ;)


So.. of course.

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eadwine@eadwineMX23:~
$ xdg-settings get default-web-browser 
vivaldi.desktop

You'd know if that wasn't set to vivaldi ;) Something else would open.

Just checking because on clean fluxbox installs, when I install LibreWolf, MX Viewer is still my default browser until I make some changes to correct it.

Re: Vivaldi challenges (open external link in new background tab, in my case)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 3:34 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Yeah.. which is why many many years ago I found those update-alternatives somewhere and have been doing them ever since on every fresh install. I was bitten by the same thing way back when.

Re: Vivaldi challenges (open external link in new background tab, in my case)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 5:18 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Just ran into this one: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/107785/ ... und-option


Such a bummer that that one extension doesn't work.

Re: Vivaldi challenges (open external link in new background tab, in my case)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 6:56 pm
by bradhamilton
Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 5:18 pm Just ran into this one: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/107785/ ... und-option


Such a bummer that that one extension doesn't work.
Although I love Vivaldi to death, I've also found over the years that the devs are less than responsive when they are asked to fix a bug, or make an enhancement in general.

I think the features I love best about Vivaldi are:
Proton VPN
Integrated mail client
uBlock Origin Lite (better IMHO than uBlock Origin)

Since it ticks all those boxes for me, I tend not to worry as much about features I don't use - to each their own, for sure. The only "con" I've found was the extended outage earlier this year syncing tabs across Vivaldi instances on multiple devices - boy, that was annoying!

In any case, I keep Firefox handy as a "backup" in case Vivaldi goes wonky for an extended period - I guess I'm just "backup-obsessed" (if you read my signature).

Re: Vivaldi challenges (open external link in new background tab, in my case)

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2025 2:42 am
by Eadwine Rose
Yeah.. I have Firefox as well, so I won't be left hanging, so to speak :smile:

Mind.. Vivaldi does get updates fairly regularly, so I guess they are doing -something-. Just not that ;)