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Debian 13 and Linux Mint 22.2
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 8:05 pm
by BV206
I installed Debian 13.0 Xfce in VirtualBox today. Whiskermenu has Menulibre and Mugshot populated in the Commands tab but Menulibre and Mugshot are not even installed.
I typed "cal" in the terminal and that isn't installed either. At least they have Xfce version 4.20.
Then I installed Linux Mint 22.2 Beta Xfce and was shocked to find that they are still on Xfce version 4.18.
I hope MX 25 does better than that.
Re: Debian 13 and Linux Mint 22.2
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 8:22 pm
by siamhie
BV206 wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 8:05 pm
I installed Debian 13.0 Xfce in VirtualBox today. Whiskermenu has Menulibre and Mugshot populated in the Commands tab but Menulibre and Mugshot are not even installed.
I'm not seeing that on my Deb13 XFCE install to bare metal. Which menu are they under?
I typed "cal" in the terminal and that isn't installed either. At least they have Xfce version 4.20.
I don't think it available anymore.
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siamhie@deb13:~$ sudo nala install cal
Error: cal not found
ncal is available
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siamhie@deb13:~$ apt show ncal
Package: ncal
Version: 12.1.8
Priority: optional
Section: utils
Source: bsdmainutils
Maintainer: Debian Bsdmainutils Team <pkg-bsdmainutils@teams.debian.net>
Installed-Size: 59.4 kB
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34), libtinfo6 (>= 6)
Breaks: bsdmainutils (<< 12.1.3)
Replaces: bsdmainutils (<< 12.1.3)
Download-Size: 19.7 kB
APT-Sources: http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
Description: display a calendar and the date of Easter
This package contains the "ncal" program and the traditional "cal"
program, both are commonly found on BSD-style systems. This utility displays a
simple calendar in a traditional or an alternative and more advanced layout,
and the date of Easter.
Re: Debian 13 and Linux Mint 22.2
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 8:34 pm
by BV206
Right click the whiskermenu panel icon
Properties
Commands tab
The bottom two items Edit Applications and Edit Profile.
cal was replaced by ncal and /usr/bin/cal should be a link to /usr/bin/ncal. I don't know how long ago that happened but cal always worked before. I don't know if Debian 13 dropped ncal on purpose. Maybe they need more room for Asian fonts and language inputs.
Re: Debian 13 and Linux Mint 22.2
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 9:42 pm
by siamhie
BV206 wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 8:34 pm
Right click the whiskermenu panel icon
Properties
Commands tab
The bottom two items Edit Applications and Edit Profile.
I'm not entirely familiar with XFCE, so I don't know where this icon is you speak of.
I didn't realize I had to install a plugin.
menu.png
Is it the same for Debian 12 XFCE? Maybe holdovers?
cal was replaced by ncal and /usr/bin/cal should be a link to /usr/bin/ncal. I don't know how long ago that happened but cal always worked before. I don't know if Debian 13 dropped ncal on purpose.
I installed ncal and cal works. Maybe Debian figures users will just use the calendar function included with their office suite.
cal.jpg
Maybe they need more room for Asian fonts and language inputs.
It's only 60kB.
Re: Debian 13 and Linux Mint 22.2
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:10 pm
by BV206
siamhie wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 9:42 pm
I'm not entirely familiar with XFCE, so I don't know where this icon is you speak of.
It's the main application menu icon. Should be at the bottom left corner of the screen.
Re: Debian 13 and Linux Mint 22.2
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:23 pm
by siamhie
BV206 wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:10 pm
siamhie wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 9:42 pm
I'm not entirely familiar with XFCE, so I don't know where this icon is you speak of.
It's the main application menu icon. Should be at the bottom left corner of the screen.
This is what my stock (installed) desktop looks like. (I've added temp plugins for my CPU and GPU)
Re: Debian 13 and Linux Mint 22.2
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:40 pm
by BV206
I forgot, Debian uses Applications Menu by default. You have to go to Panel Preferences and add Whiskermenu to the panel and remove Applications Menu unless you want two menus.
Re: Debian 13 and Linux Mint 22.2
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:52 pm
by siamhie
BV206 wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:40 pm
I forgot, Debian uses Applications Menu by default. You have to go to Panel Preferences and add Whiskermenu to the panel and remove Applications Menu unless you want two menus.
Take a look at post #4. I made some corrections.
Re: Debian 13 and Linux Mint 22.2
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:11 pm
by asqwerth
BV206 wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 8:05 pm
I installed Debian 13.0 Xfce in VirtualBox today. Whiskermenu has Menulibre and Mugshot populated in the Commands tab but Menulibre and Mugshot are not even installed.
I typed "cal" in the terminal and that isn't installed either. At least they have Xfce version 4.20.
Then I installed Linux Mint 22.2 Beta Xfce and was shocked to find that they are still on Xfce version 4.18.
I hope MX 25 does better than that.
MX packaging team packaged XFCE 4.20 themselves to be compatible with MX23, sometime after the first point release of MX23. Otherwise, Debian 12/Bookworm's XFCE version is still 4.18, I believe.
I don't think you need to worry about XFCE versions when it comes to MX. According to Stevo, XFCE devs make their DE easy to build on different bases, unlike Gnome or Plasma, where you generally need the latest gtk or Qt versions if you want the latest Gnome/Plasma.
Re: Debian 13 and Linux Mint 22.2
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:22 pm
by Pierre
it is nice to see Debian Trixie - out in the wild, now.
:)
do remember - that the LinuxMint System - is supposed to be an fairly conservative system.
& which is why it's supposed to be fairly stable, too -