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Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:06 am
by Akira
I wanted to try Cinnamon desktop, but didnt saw it in the mx tool - desktop environment. So where is cinnamon?

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:14 am
by j2mcgreg
Akira wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:06 am I wanted to try Cinnamon desktop, but didnt saw it in the mx tool - desktop environment. So where is cinnamon?
There are already a couple of Cinnamon respins available to try:
@Senpai's
viewtopic.php?t=80941

@user-green's
viewtopic.php?t=72338

edited to add that Cinnamon is also available through Synaptic.

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:25 am
by Stevo
Or install the cinnamon-desktop-environment metapackage from Enabled Repos using MXPI; with the recommended stuff if you want the whole load.

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:46 am
by Akira
Thank you.
Looks like its an old version and i wanted to try the newest 6.4, but i guess ill wait.

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:12 am
by manyroads
Akira wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:46 am Thank you.
Looks like its an old version and i wanted to try the newest 6.4, but i guess ill wait.
You can try using a LinuxMint live cd/ usb.

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:37 am
by siamhie
Akira wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:46 am Thank you.
Looks like its an old version and i wanted to try the newest 6.4, but i guess ill wait.

You could always install Debian 12.8.0 with the Cinnamon desktop
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/cu ... so-hybrid/

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:46 am
by AVLinux

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:57 pm
by Akira
Ive tested "Senpai_Respin_Cinnamon_MX-23.4_x64" using vbox and i like it. Still im gonna wait until i can select it from the mx tools easy install.

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 2:47 pm
by Stevo
The Linux Mint Debian Edition's repository might have a newer Cinnamon that's supposed to be compatible with MX 23, but that has to be tested first.

I don't think any of the development team uses that desktop, so it could be a long wait for it to appear as a one-click option in MXPI, unless it just does what I suggested above. A lot of the recommended packages are already installed on an MX XFCE install.

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 3:08 pm
by BV206
Linux Mint's current Cinnamon version is 6.2.9 for both LM 22 Ubuntu base and LMDE 6.

You can see what versions some other distros have at repology.
https://repology.org/project/cinnamon/versions

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:00 pm
by jeffreyC
Linux Mint, including Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE), will have the latest version of the Cinnamon DE because the Linux Mint team are the developers of the Cinnamon DE.

The Mint repos can work in MX Linux, but you may get 'upgrades' to other packages that could cause you some trouble.
I would recommend learning apt pinning before going down that path.
I only played around with it in a live USB for a little while, then went back to Xfce as it still remains my favorite.

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:53 am
by Senpai
Akira wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:46 am Thank you.
Looks like its an old version and i wanted to try the newest 6.4, but i guess ill wait.
My Cinnamon respin https://sourceforge.net/projects/senpai ... -cinnamon/ has the current version 6.2.9 of Linux Mint, because it has added the official repository of LMDE that is compatible with MX-Linux 23.4, it has not given me any problem since 06/19/2024 that I created it, nor have reported me errors with the updates with those repositories.
Cinnamon version 6.4 will not be released in Mint until the end of December, I guess it will take a little longer to be released in LMDE, but when it comes out it will be upgradable in my respin, or I will release an updated ISO.

Best regards

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:19 am
by Akira
Thanks for all the reply. Ill wait for 6.4.

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:30 am
by Pretty Vacant
Akira wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:19 am Thanks for all the reply. Ill wait for 6.4.
That makes 2!
nemo 5.6.4-1. in repository while 6.4.3 is the current version! 9_9
viewtopic.php?p=807144#p807144

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:31 am
by Eadwine Rose
Please don't do this, it won't make your problem solved by complaining about it in other peoples' threads you dug up.

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:41 am
by orion99
The MX Linux team already offers three office versions or window manager with integration, why go get elsewhere and not do with what already exists ?

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:42 pm
by Senpai
Akira wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:19 am Thanks for all the reply. Ill wait for 6.4.
Hi;
My Respin already has Cinnamon 6.4 included from LMDE repository, you can test it and give me constructive comments to improve it.
You have it in viewtopic.php?t=80941
Best regards

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:38 pm
by Pretty Vacant
Eadwine Rose wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:31 am Please don't do this, it won't make your problem solved by complaining about it in other peoples' threads you dug up.
Digging up? I beg your pardon? I got this link sent in my topic viewtopic.php?p=807144#p807144
I read this topic and just add that i'm queuing in since there seems to be major problems with Cinamon for MX23 that are not recognised.

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 6:59 am
by asqwerth
Pretty Vacant wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:38 pm
Eadwine Rose wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:31 am Please don't do this, it won't make your problem solved by complaining about it in other peoples' threads you dug up.
Digging up? I beg your pardon? I got this link sent in my topic viewtopic.php?p=807144#p807144
I read this topic and just add that i'm queuing in since there seems to be major problems with Cinamon for MX23 that are not recognised.
I pointed you to this thread because I was hoping that after reading it you would understand that it's more likely that you will get the latest nemo [file managers are tightly linked to the DE they are made for] in Senpai's Cinnamon respin than from MX packaging team.

Cinnamon is Mint's baby so of course they will get it first.

MX packagers don't really package new versions of DE beyond what is in Debian Stable, except for XFCE because it's our flagship, and also because unlike KDE Plasma, it's not as tied to newer versions of the relevant toolkit (ie, Qt for Plasma desktop), which would conflict with what's in Debian Stable.

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:40 am
by Jerry3904
Cinamon for MX23
There is no such thing, that's the point that you seem to be missing. MX has 3 desktop variants, each of which is managed and overseen by a MX Dev. It does not offer a Cinnamon variant and there is no MX Dev interested in taking it on. End of story.

Re: Wheres cinnamon?

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 3:57 pm
by Stevo
major problems with Cinamon for MX23 that are not recognised
Please explain in more detail so that we can recognise them.

BTW, having a non-bleeding edge of Cinnamon from Debian is not considered a problem here. We have enough on our hands with the simpler-to-build Enlightenment and XFCE fresh releases.

I preferred using the Dolphin file manager from KDE instead of Thunar in XFCE, myself. It's very powerful and customisable.