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Posted: **Fri Dec 06, 2024 8:34 am**

Hi,

I am using MX Linux for a long time now, but lately I have been experiencing a rare issue. Sometimes and it is not always, it seems that simply I "loose" permissions as user in such a way that, for example, if I click on the "close session" icon on the system tray, the controls corresponding to "restart", "shutdown" and "suspend" are dimmed so I cannot use them. Of course, I installed the system with my user, so it is needless to say that my user has superuser privileges.

Likewise, if I try to lower the screen brightness for example, it does not work.

If I try and use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to open a TTY, I login, and use "sudo reboot" and the system does not ask for password and simply reboots. After the system is up again, the issue dissapears. I mean, the close session control works, the brightness works and so on.

Below you can find my quick system info:

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Snapshot created on: 20241021_1531
System:
  Kernel: 6.11.10-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.11-15~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.11.10-1-liquorix-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro
    quiet loglevel=3 splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: Compiz v: 0.8.18 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.4_ahs_x64 Libretto October 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux
    12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 82SF v: IdeaPad 5 15IAL7 serial: <superuser required>
    Chassis: type: 10 v: IdeaPad 5 15IAL7 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: LENOVO model: LNVNB161216 v: SDK0T76463 WIN serial: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO
    v: JBCN28WW date: 12/15/2022
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 17.9 Wh (34.0%) condition: 52.7/57.0 Wh (92.4%) volts: 12.0 min: 11.5
    model: SMP L19M3PF6 type: Li-poly serial: <filter> status: charging cycles: 160
CPU:
  Info: model: 12th Gen Intel Core i7-1255U bits: 64 type: MST AMCP arch: Alder Lake level: v3
    note: check built: 2021+ process: Intel 7 (10nm ESF) family: 6 model-id: 0x9A (154) stepping: 4
    microcode: 0x434
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 10 mt: 2 tpc: 2 st: 8 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache: L1: 928 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB, 2x48 KiB; i-2x32 KiB, 8x64 KiB L2: 6.5 MiB desc: 2x1.2 MiB, 2x2 MiB L3: 12 MiB
    desc: 1x12 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1461 high: 4566 min/max: 400/4700:3500 scaling: driver: intel_pstate
    governor: performance cores: 1: 4566 2: 609 3: 2829 4: 1436 5: 2635 6: 400 7: 400 8: 400 9: 3066
    10: 400 11: 400 12: 400 bogomips: 62668
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling mitigation: Clear Register File
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; RSB filling;
    PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence; BHI: BHI_DIS_S
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-UP3 GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics] vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel
    alternate: xe arch: Gen-12.2 process: Intel 10nm built: 2021-22+ ports: active: eDP-1
    empty: DP-1,DP-2,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:46a8 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: NVIDIA TU117M [GeForce MX550] vendor: Lenovo driver: nvidia v: 535.183.06
    non-free: 530.xx+ status: current (as of 2023-03) arch: Turing code: TUxxx process: TSMC 12nm FF
    built: 2018-22 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 4 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1f9f class-ID: 0302
  Device-3: Bison Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 3-8:3 chip-ID: 5986:214d
    class-ID: fe01 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: Compiz v: 0.8.18 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv dri: iris gpu: i915
    display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: BOE Display 0x08c2 built: 2019 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 142
    gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 24.2.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel Graphics (ADL GT2)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake PCH-P High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo
    driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl alternate: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_avs, snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl
    bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:51c8 class-ID: 0401
  API: ALSA v: k6.11.10-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api with: aoss type: oss-emulator
    tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.21 status: off tools: jack_control,qjackctl
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-P PCH CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl bus-ID: 00:14.3
    chip-ID: 8086:51f0 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: tempestbr state: down mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-2: tempesttap state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX201 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 3-10:4 chip-ID: 8087:0026
    class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 3 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: hardware: no
    software: yes address: <filter>
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 174.47 GiB (36.6%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD PC SN740 SDDPMQD-512G-1101
    size: 476.94 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 73110001 temp: 28.9 C scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 198.04 GiB size: 193.87 GiB (97.90%) used: 174.47 GiB (90.0%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5 maj-min: 259:5
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 3 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 4 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 3216 libs: 1645 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64,arm64,armhf] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/warpdotdev.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/warpdotdev.gpg] https://releases.warp.dev/linux/deb stable main
Info:
  Processes: 414 Uptime: 3h 20m wakeups: 47987 Memory: 15.36 GiB used: 3.56 GiB (23.2%)
  Init: SysVinit v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
  alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

Please let me know if you need anything else. Thanks and best regards,
zopeck

Posted: **Fri Dec 06, 2024 8:40 am**

Moved to correct subforum, you are not asking for help sitewise.

Posted: **Fri Dec 06, 2024 9:06 am**

@zopeck

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Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 198.04 GiB size: 193.87 GiB (97.90%) used: 174.47 GiB (90.0%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5 maj-min: 259:5

This partition is too full. You have to move a bunch of stuff out of there or soon your system will lock you out entirely.

Posted: **Fri Dec 06, 2024 9:11 am**

Hi j2mcgreg,

So, according to your experience, how much free space do you think the system needs in order to work properly?

Thanks.

Posted: **Fri Dec 06, 2024 9:22 am**

zopeck wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 9:11 am Hi j2mcgreg,

So, according to your experience, how much free space do you think the system needs in order to work properly?

Thanks.

You never want it to be more than 80% full.

Posted: **Fri Dec 06, 2024 9:34 am**

Ok, thank you very much for your prompt answer. I will try and get the free space needed and then do a follow up. I will let you know the results as soon as I can.

Best regards,
zopeck

Posted: **Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:54 pm**

Hi!

Well, I freed up some space, so I now have about 24% free disk space, and since the last time I wrote, today the issue showed up again. So, this should mean that the issue is not related to lack of free space.

Please let me know if you have another idea so as to guide to a solution.

If you need further information I will be more than glad to provide. Thanks in advance. Best regards,
zopeck

Posted: **Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:03 pm**

There is a known issue with "user rights" and admin abilities - typically happening when you logout and then back in.
viewtopic.php?t=81139&hilit=authentication

So far, there is no 'fix' that I am aware of ... other than.. I lock and never log out.

The issue appears to show up every time you log out on some computers and 'once in a while' on others. Timing appears to be somewhat of a factor... but not 'the issue' .

Posted: **Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:30 pm**

Hi CharlesV

Thanks for your help. I did a Timeshift Backup and launched the lightdm upgrade. Will do a follow up and then let know here the results.

Cheers and keep it up! Best regards,
zopeck

Posted: **Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:01 pm**

Hi,

Today is Wednesday 11th, it's been 3 days since update, so far so good, but perhaps it is a little bit too soon to tell. Think need say 4 to 6 more days to let the issue have time and opportunity to express itself...

Time will tell. Regards to all.

Posted: **Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:29 pm**

Oh! And I just almost forgot!:

DW cannot fool me... MX Linux is the best distro. Let's keep it up!

Posted: **Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:49 am**

Hello everybody,

Today the issue manifested itself again

It happened right after logging to the system. Just like all the times before, and as now I am used to check the logout button just to check, with great grief I verified that the restart and shutdown buttons were dimmed, and, just like before, if I tried to use the brightness controls, the brightness did not work.

One thing that I noticed is that I have compiz active and that sometimes it seemed to have certain issues loading the various scripts that activate the window effects, so, just to make the test, I deactivated compiz to see if it is related to the problem.

Will continue to do the follow up and let you know if it has any kind of effect in relation to the "permissions" issue. Regards,
zopeck

Posted: **Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:05 am**

There have been other reports of odd behaviour by folks who are using the 6.11,10-1 kernel. You might try using Boot Options in MX Tools to roll back the previous kernel: 6.10.11 and see if the problem disappears.

Posted: **Sun Dec 15, 2024 4:21 pm**

Hi j2mcgreg,

I will wait perhaps two or three days, and see if the problem persists, and if so, then I will try and apply what you suggest. Thank you very much.

I will let you know the results of either path. Regards,
zopeck

Posted: **Fri Dec 20, 2024 1:41 pm**

Hello everybody,

Today is day 5 of the follow up test, where I disabled compiz, in order to check if this could be the reason why I experience the issue of "loose of permissions" as detailed before.

Well, till now, the issue did not manifest itself. May be compiz is the one to blame? Currently I am using kernel 6.11.10-1-liquorix-amd64. Compiz is ver. 0.8.18

I think 5 days is a reasonable time to wait for the issue, isn't it? The validation itself then, could be to enable compiz again, and wait, say 5 more days and see.
Now I will activate compiz again and wait for the results. I will let you know.

Regards,
zopeck.

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