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Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:50 pm
by pax-eterna
Having issues with Thunar freezing at random points in a file transfer operation. Requiring a hard re-boot to unfreeze it.

Transferring files from NTFS usb drive. Already tried marking the NTFS drive as read only, however issue still remains.

Tried letting it run the transfer without touching anything else, still happens. Usually at about 60-70% of a multi gig file!!

If I let it run and the screen saver kicks in, it also freezes.

Is Dolphin or some other app better for this kind of thing?

Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:54 pm
by CharlesV
So, make sure that your ntfs drive is checked and ok. And what size is the 'multi-gig' file? I routinely copy files 24 ~ 120gb sizes with out issue. (usually on ext4 drives, but I do use ntfs usb's and have no issues like this with thunar )

Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:55 pm
by CharlesV
... and right here! is where I am going to say a swap file may indeed help you!

Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:17 pm
by Gabriel_M
Try using Midnight Commander.
And disable the screen saver.

Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:55 am
by Kester
Hi pax-eterna,
Like your forum name - wish it's sentiments were followed throughout the world today.
Having issues with Thunar freezing at random points in a file transfer operation. Requiring a hard re-boot to unfreeze it.
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Hopefully you will soon resolve this problem but when windows freeze a hard re-boot should be considered a last resort - have you tried the 'xkill' command. Open a terminal window and type xkill then click <ENTER>. If that fails to close the stuck window then it is safer to reboot your system using the 'REISUB' command when access to your normal restart procedure is impossible. To use the command hold the 'ALT' key down and press in turn the 'Print Screen' key, then 'R', 'E', 'I', 'S', 'U' and 'B'. Don't be too quick between key presses if you are a touch typist - my two finger typing speed however is ok with this command.

Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:00 pm
by pax-eterna
CharlesV wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:55 pm ... and right here! is where I am going to say a swap file may indeed help you!
thanks - hasn't been on issue on other "flavours" of linux tbh.

Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:02 pm
by pax-eterna
Kester wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:55 am Hi pax-eterna,
Like your forum name - wish it's sentiments were followed throughout the world today.
Having issues with Thunar freezing at random points in a file transfer operation. Requiring a hard re-boot to unfreeze it.
.
Hopefully you will soon resolve this problem but when windows freeze a hard re-boot should be considered a last resort - have you tried the 'xkill' command. Open a terminal window and type xkill then click <ENTER>. If that fails to close the stuck window then it is safer to reboot your system using the 'REISUB' command when access to your normal restart procedure is impossible. To use the command hold the 'ALT' key down and press in turn the 'Print Screen' key, then 'R', 'E', 'I', 'S', 'U' and 'B'. Don't be too quick between key presses if you are a touch typist - my two finger typing speed however is ok with this command.
thanks! I'll note that one ")

Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:38 pm
by CharlesV
pax-eterna wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:00 pm
CharlesV wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:55 pm ... and right here! is where I am going to say a swap file may indeed help you!
thanks - hasn't been on issue on other "flavours" of linux tbh.
This is all about the what needs it. Some applications will just not function properly without one. I ran Mint on a 64gb machine for around a year with no swap... getting "little issues" .. until one day someone pointed it out. I added a swap and those little issues went away

Here in the forum, we have plenty of observations where having a swap resolved issues. (and sometimes ... very 'small' little things.

Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:12 am
by DukeComposed
pax-eterna wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:50 pm Transferring files from NTFS usb drive. Already tried marking the NTFS drive as read only, however issue still remains.

Tried letting it run the transfer without touching anything else, still happens. Usually at about 60-70% of a multi gig file!!

Is Dolphin or some other app better for this kind of thing?
When interrupting a copy is a possibility, even just between two locations on the same machine, I always prefer to use rsync with the --partial and --progress options, or -P to enable them both.

Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:45 pm
by pax-eterna
CharlesV wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:38 pm
pax-eterna wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:00 pm
CharlesV wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:55 pm ... and right here! is where I am going to say a swap file may indeed help you!
thanks - hasn't been on issue on other "flavours" of linux tbh.
This is all about the what needs it. Some applications will just not function properly without one. I ran Mint on a 64gb machine for around a year with no swap... getting "little issues" .. until one day someone pointed it out. I added a swap and those little issues went away

Here in the forum, we have plenty of observations where having a swap resolved issues. (and sometimes ... very 'small' little things.
Sorry have been away from forum for a while....is it possible to add a swap file post installation? And if so best way to do this?
thanks