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Checking Elive Linux distribution - Why the system connected to the network without pdoing the password
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 3:35 am
by Marek
Hi, have any of you ever used Elive Linux? A colleague hinted to me about it. i wanted to check for myself how it looks like. I got a big surprise when, after booting the system, I found that the network works without a password, and in the settings there is my password. How is this possible if I did not enter a password? Did it read from the Mx installation? What is this all about someone is able to explain it to me rationally?
Re: Checking Elive Linux distribution - Why the system connected to the network without pdoing the password
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 3:46 am
by Eadwine Rose
With all help requests, please share your full Quick System Info, found in the menu under Favorites. Press the Copy for forum button, then click paste in a reply. If need be, you can do this with the LiveUSB, thanks.
Needs more info. Did you install it? Same drive? Different drive? Running live?
Re: Checking Elive Linux distribution - Why the system connected to the network without pdoing the password
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 3:52 am
by DukeComposed
Marek wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 3:35 am
Hi, have any of you ever used Elive Linux? I found that the network works without a password, and in the settings there is my password. How is this possible if I did not enter a password? Did it read from the Mx installation? What is this all about someone is able to explain it to me rationally?
Elive Linux has
its own support forum. I'm guessing they understand how their distribution works better than we would.
Re: Checking Elive Linux distribution - Why the system connected to the network without pdoing the password
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 4:03 am
by Marek
Thank you for response.
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CPU:
Info: quad core model: Intel Core i5-3570 bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: Ivy Bridge rev: 9 cache: L1: 256 KiB L2: 1024 KiB L3: 6 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 3249 high: 3800 min/max: 1600/3800 cores: 1: 3800
2: 1597 3: 3800 4: 3800 bogomips: 27138
Flags: acpi aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon avx bts clflush cmov
constant_tsc cpuid cpuid_fault cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts epb
ept erms est f16c flexpriority flush_l1d fpu fsgsbase fxsr ht ibpb ibrs
ida lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat
pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm pebs pge pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pti pts rdrand
rdtscp rep_good sep smep smx ss ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp
syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc tsc_deadline_timer vme vmx vnmi vpid x2apic
xsave xsaveopt xtopology xtpr
~ ❯❯❯ inxi -F
System:
Host: Elive-99625 Kernel: 6.7.12+bpo-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: N/A Distro: Elive GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: Dell product: OptiPlex 7010 v: 01
serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Dell model: 0WR7PY v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell
v: A29 date: 06/28/2018
CPU:
Info: quad core model: Intel Core i5-3570 bits: 64 type: MCP cache:
L2: 1024 KiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 3543 min/max: 1600/3800 cores: 1: 3567 2: 3800 3: 3122
4: 3683
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics driver: i915
v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915 resolution: 1440x900~60Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: crocus,swrast
platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.2 vendor: intel mesa v: 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel HD
Graphics 2500 (IVB GT1)
Audio:
Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio
driver: snd_hda_intel
API: ALSA v: k6.7.12+bpo-amd64 status: kernel-api
Server-1: PulseAudio v: 16.1 status: active
Network:
Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network driver: e1000e
IF: eno1 state: down mac:
Device-2: MEDIATEK MT7921 802.11ax PCI Express Wireless Network Adapter
driver: mt7921e
IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac:
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 830.85 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: GOODRAM model: SSDPR-CX400-256 size: 238.47 GiB
ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: A-Data model: SU650 size: 476.94 GiB
ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Wilk model: USB DISK 3.0 size: 115.43 GiB type: USB
Partition:
Message: No partition data found.
Swap:
Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors:
Src: /sys System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
Memory: total: 16 GiB available: 15.52 GiB used: 3.89 GiB (25.1%)
Processes: 209 Uptime: 34m Shell: Zsh inxi: 3.3.34
~ ❯❯❯
It's a live system. When starting the script, it asked if it should search for a network. I agreed. After 30 seconds it informed that it could not get a connection, to then display a desktop with a working network....
My goal is to find out the opinion of objective people
Re: Checking Elive Linux distribution - Why the system connected to the network without pdoing the password
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 4:13 am
by DukeComposed
Marek wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 4:03 am
My goal is to find out the opinion of objective people
Objectively, this is an MX Linux forum. If anyone here has expertise in Elive Linux I'm sure they'll pipe up in this thread, but if I own a BMW and it starts making a noise under the hood, I don't take it to a Mercedes dealership to get an objective opinion on what might be causing it. Find the experts who made the thing you're using and ask them how the thing they made works.
Re: Checking Elive Linux distribution - Why the system connected to the network without pdoing the password
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 4:19 am
by Eadwine Rose
I think the thing got access to where your password is stored on MX. That is what I think is at the base of this.
Also.. when asked to share QSI, share the FULL thing. Not just a part of it.
Re: Checking Elive Linux distribution - Why the system connected to the network without pdoing the password
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 4:50 am
by Marek
Ok I will correct it. Actually when I changed the password in the router but did not save in Mx, Elive did not know the password. When I saved the new password in Mx, then Elive knew it. I have the Mx password set only for me, so its value should be hashed it seems to me? In that case, can the Elive system so easily get full access to the Mx and find all the data? I don't like this kind of operation of elive.