Last kernel upgrade 6.7.10-1 freezes my system

[anokasion]

As a long a time user of MX Linux, I always talked about it's stability, but after the latest upgrade to MX 23.2 Libretto 6.7.10-1-liquorix-amd64 (last default one), my system began to freezes 5-10 minutes in after login to XFCE -maybe I just should installed the non Advanced Hardware Support version; however I never had any problem at all with the previous kernels, so I really wonder what's happening.

I'm not used to get hardware freezes on Linux, so I'm not sure how to debug this, but even so, I think I'll stick to kernel version 6.7.9-1 (the direct previous one) until a new kernel is released or this problem becomes more spread. Anyways, I have no problem on booting with the latest kernel and check the files you guys can tell me (and if there's a way to use the terminal only, or kill X after the MX Linux animation with Ctrl+Alt+Shift?)

Thanks in advance.

[Eadwine Rose]

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[anokasion]

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System:
  Kernel: 6.7.10-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.7-14~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.7.10-1-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.2_ahs_x64 Libretto January 21  2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux
    12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: B450M DS3H V2 v: -CF serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: B450M DS3H V2 v: x.x serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American
    Megatrends LLC. v: F63 date: 08/03/2022
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 3 gen: 4
    level: v3 note: check built: 2021-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x50 (80)
    stepping: 0 microcode: 0xA50000D
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache: L1: 384 KiB
    desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 3 MiB desc: 6x512 KiB L3: 16 MiB desc: 1x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 977 high: 3868 min/max: 400/4464 scaling: driver: amd-pstate-epp
    governor: performance cores: 1: 3866 2: 400 3: 400 4: 400 5: 3868 6: 400 7: 400 8: 400 9: 400
    10: 400 11: 400 12: 400 bogomips: 93428
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Vulnerable: Safe RET, no microcode
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: always-on, RSB
    filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Cezanne [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Mobile Series] vendor: Gigabyte driver: amdgpu
    v: kernel arch: GCN-5 code: Vega process: GF 14nm built: 2017-20 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s
    lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s ports: active: HDMI-A-1 empty: DVI-D-1
    bus-ID: 06:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:1638 class-ID: 0300 temp: 42.0 C
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-A-0 model: HDMI built: 2021 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 3048
    gamma: 1.2 size: 16x9mm (0.63x0.35") diag: 546mm (21.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080
    min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM 15.0.6 DRM
    3.57 6.7.10-1-liquorix-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 06:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1637
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 06:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3
    class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.7.10-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte driver: r8169
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
    class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 699.57 GiB used: 69.37 GiB (9.9%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37240G size: 223.57 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 0010 scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37480G size: 447.13 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 1103 scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 type: USB vendor: Kingston model: DataTraveler 3.0 size: 28.87 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 0000 scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 223.32 GiB size: 218.75 GiB (97.96%) used: 29.52 GiB (13.5%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 4 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 55.0 C mobo: 38.0 C gpu: amdgpu temp: 42.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2309 libs: 1265 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb https://espejito.fder.edu.uy/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb https://espejito.fder.edu.uy/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 406 Uptime: 0m wakeups: 1 Memory: 15 GiB used: 1.01 GiB (6.8%) Init: SysVinit v: 3.06
  runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

[Charlie Brown]

You know, you can boot with previous kernels via Advanced Options on Grub,

Can also make any of them the default with "MX Boot Options" - "Boot to" ...

Also you can easily remove the non-booted one(s) with "MX Cleanup" from menu (tool below the window)

You can even stop automatic updates if you like... ( "MX Tweak" - "Other" tab )

[MXRobo]

I'm a noob, but I'd say, if it's not a coincidence that it's happening with the latest liquorix kernel - say rams not seated properly, or other hardware issues – then it appears that you have the obvious options, as you suggested, AHS, all four of CB's suggestions, and I'd assume he'll tell you how to stop the auto-updates if you desire, but obviously, I'd test for some time before you fully commit.

[anokasion]

I'm a noob, but I'd say, if it's not a coincidence that it's happening with the latest liquorix kernel - say rams not seated properly, or other hardware issues – then it appears that you have the obvious options, as you suggested, AHS, all four of CB's suggestions, and I'd assume he'll tell you how to stop the auto-updates if you desire, but obviously, I'd test for some time before you fully commit.

Thanks, I know how to do all that, and I'm 99% sure is not a hardware issue (the most likely for a freeze would be RAM I know). I'm already using the 6.7.9-1-liquorix and as usual, since I installed this MX Linux with AHS, works perfectly.
I was just saying that it might be useful, if possible, booting again on 6.7.10-1-liquorix to check some files in /var/log or dmesg or if MX Linux has some other history report, to know what's the real issue -but I'm not sure what to check since I don't remember any Linux freezing on me in the last decade -my guess is that the newest kernel has some issue with the GPU, since I'm using the ones that ships with the kernel because I have an AMD graphics card, as it shows in the Quick System Info, therefore, finding the cause of the issue might be useful for everyone.

[Stevo]

Yesterday, Liquorix had a new release that reverted the changes they had made with the last two releases, (6.7-16), so I think they may also be aware of this. I'm porting it over right now.

[Jerry3904]

For the record, it froze mine too. 23 Mxfb.

[CatManDan]

Liquorix kernels take quite a while to shut down. I disabled QUIET SPLASH in order to see the service messages that are normally listed on boot and shutdown if some service got stuck. But it already got stuck before any service message has been shown. I do not have any network resources mounted.

Kernel 6.6.15 runs like a charm, and the laptop shuts down in no time.

by the way: @Stevo will Kernel 6.6 receive further updates as it is the latest LTS release of kernel.org? They are already at 6.6.22.

[Charlie Brown]

With 6.7.1-1 everything's fine here, so it must be specific to that version.