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sisqonrw
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is bfrs better

#1 Post by sisqonrw »

Hi have have installed MX Linux new on my notebook. but on a ext4 partition.
is bfrs better?
i am at the beginning. i can install MX-Linux new on a bfrs partion.
thanks


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#3 Post by DukeComposed »

sisqonrw wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:57 pm Hi have have installed MX Linux new on my notebook. but on a ext4 partition.
is bfrs better?
i am at the beginning. i can install MX-Linux new on a bfrs partion.
thanks
The real question is "better for what?" If you aren't sure what a copy-on-write file system is or why you may want one, stick with ext4.

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#4 Post by figueroa »

Charlie, that source is a marketing snow job for EaseUS, and a poor source for actionable information.
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#5 Post by DukeComposed »

figueroa wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:52 pm Charlie, that source is a marketing snow job for EaseUS, and a poor source for actionable information.
Perhaps Ars Technica is a more reputable source.

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#6 Post by Charlie Brown »

That link (source) is not a special recommendation by me, just for general info, randomly found.

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#7 Post by Eadwine Rose »

I just cannot help but always read "butterface", this thread has gotten me the giggles :laugh: :happy:
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#8 Post by MadMax »

BTRFS isn't per-se better, it's a different more feature-rich option. Its biggest feature is the ability to create file-system-level snapshots. With a tool like Timeshift you can create for example hourly snapshots of your whole filesystem. They are fully deduplicated, so snapshots won't take up space as long as the files don't change. The next thing is that it's copy-on-write, so every change gets written out as a new file, then the old file gets removed (or rather unlinked). This also removes the immediate the need of a journal so it has none. I've found a niche use of COW on SMR HDDs that perform MUCH better under BTRFS than on any other filesystem. There are more features like compression or flexible RAID options.

EXT4 on the other hand is the old "trusted" Linux filesystem that should always do its job, but has no fancy features. It's a little faster than BTRFS from my experience (when reading in huge file trees e.g. for a snyc job), but that's it.
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#9 Post by DukeComposed »

MadMax wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:23 pm EXT4 on the other hand is the old "trusted" Linux filesystem that should always do its job, but has no fancy features. It's a little faster than BTRFS from my experience (when reading in huge file trees e.g. for a snyc job), but that's it.
To this ext4 should be allowed to say "I am mightily abused."

ext4 may not only by faster than btrfs, but it also offers metadata journaling, fragmentation resistance through extents, metadata checksumming, resizeability, backwards compatibility with ext2 and ext3, transparent encryption, Y2038 problem datetime fixes, and it can operate cleanly on top of a volume management layer like LVM.

No fancy features, indeed.

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#10 Post by MXNewFan »

The "What is bfrs?" question hit me today too (watched a dual-boot mx-linux) so in a quest for answers I ended up going down the damnedest bunny trail I'd ever been on. I then wondered what RAID was (nothing I need) and while I was at it, what the heck is Reiser used for. Holy cow. This ended up learning about a murder and a 23 page letter sent to the Linux mail list explaining the inventor's position on the project as well as his regrets for committing murder and advocacy for Cognitive Behavioral Therapy in elementary school. I ended up deciding to use ext4 as MXLinux suggested but for the life of me, after the Reiser document I completely forgot what I briefly learned about bfsr except that it wouldn't be something I need.

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