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Posted: **Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:36 pm**

I have two batteries, both genuine HP products. One works perfectly, but is swelling up, and the other last for hours, but reports bad values. I opted to go for the bad values rather than swelling my laptop apart. The battery with the bad chip info reports 0% when it has hours of life left, so naturally, the only way to use this battery is to disable auto-shutdown, which I have done in the xfce4 power manager (On Critical Battery Power: Do Nothing) on both battery and on A/C.

However, I still receive a notification to make a decision with three options (IIRC: Hiberbate, Sleep, Shutdown) and a cancel button. I cancel, and continue working, but within a few more seconds to a minute, the OS performs an unexpected shutdown.

How can I prevent this unwanted shutdown that must be triggered from elsewhere?

I live in Central America, and getting replacements is not easy, and other than misreporting to the OS, this battery works fine. I usually am on line power, but we lose power often here, and it is a laptop, so I'd like to use it on battery sometimes.

TIA

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$ upower -i $(upower -e | grep -i BAT0)
  native-path:          BAT0
  vendor:               Hewlett-Packard
  model:                Primary
  serial:               48018 2015/05/09
  power supply:         yes
  updated:              Thu 30 Nov 2023 12:26:29 PM CST (42 seconds ago)
  has history:          yes
  has statistics:       yes
  battery
    present:             yes
    rechargeable:        yes
    state:               fully-charged
    warning-level:       none
    energy:              0.2166 Wh
    energy-empty:        0 Wh
    energy-full:         0.2166 Wh
    energy-full-design:  0.2166 Wh
    energy-rate:         0 W
    voltage:             12.864 V
    percentage:          100%
    capacity:            100%
    technology:          lithium-ion
    icon-name:          'battery-full-charged-symbolic'

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System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-26-amd64 [5.10.197-1] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.10.0-26-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet 
           init=/lib/systemd/systemd 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.18.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.18.0 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower January 15  2023 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP EliteBook 840 G2 v: A3008D510B03 
           serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 2216 v: KBC Version 96.5B serial: <filter> 
           BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: M71 Ver. 01.31 date: 02/24/2020 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 0% condition: 0.2/0.2 Wh (100.0%) volts: 11.2 min: 11.4 
           model: Hewlett-Packard Primary type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Charging 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-5300U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Broadwell 
           family: 6 model-id: 3D (61) stepping: 4 microcode: 2F cache: L2: 3 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 18357 
           Speed: 2694 MHz min/max: 500/2900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2694 2: 2694 3: 2694 
           4: 2694 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected 
           Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: 
           conditional, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 
           vendor: Hewlett-Packard ZBook 15u G2 Mobile Workstation driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1616 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: Chicony HP HD Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-7:5 
           chip-ID: 04f2:b477 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") 
           s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
           Monitor-1: eDP-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 112 size: 309x174mm (12.2x6.9") 
           diag: 355mm (14") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 5500 (BDW GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Broadwell-U Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0 chip-ID: 8086:160c class-ID: 0403 
           Device-2: Intel Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:9ca0 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-26-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Ethernet I218-LM vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: e1000e v: kernel 
           port: 3080 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:15a2 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Intel Wireless 7265 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl port: ef80 
           bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:095a class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 
           bus-ID: 2-4:4 chip-ID: 8087:0a2a class-ID: e001 
           Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: enabled,running rfk-block: 
           hardware: no software: yes address: <filter> 
           Info: acl-mtu: 1021:5 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff 
           link-mode: slave accept 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 140.35 GiB (58.9%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Micron model: MTFDDAK256TBN-1AR1ZABHA 
           size: 238.47 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD 
           serial: <filter> rev: 0012 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 237.46 GiB size: 232.67 GiB (97.98%) used: 140.25 GiB (60.3%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 253:0 mapped: root.fsm 
           ID-2: /boot raw-size: 1024 MiB size: 973.4 MiB (95.06%) used: 105.1 MiB (10.8%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Swap:      Alert: No swap data was found. 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0 C mobo: 0.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: 2274 note: see --pkg apt: 2238 lib: 1125 flatpak: 36 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ bullseye main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://atl.mirrors.clouvider.net/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb/ stable main
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nordvpn.list 
           1: deb https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial-added-by-mxpi.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial main
Info:      Processes: 230 Uptime: 0m wakeups: 7 Memory: 15.04 GiB used: 2.21 GiB (14.7%) 
           Init: systemd v: 247 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A alt: 10 
           Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Posted: **Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:43 pm**

Please share the full QSI.

Posted: **Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:31 pm**

BOTH of yo batteries (according to the description you gave) are DEGRADED and DANGEROUS

PLZ - do not use them any longer (as far as you manage to get replacements ... ), REMOVE them and drive this system w#AC-POWER-ONLY

A serious warning, in mind of an incident (aka 'accident' - a total burn-down of a laptop w#such degradated batteries, short before a total 'Burn-Down' of my homelab

), that happened to me ~ 5years ago,

greetz, l0dr3

Posted: **Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:01 pm**

l0dr3 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:31 pm BOTH of yo batteries (according to the description you gave) are DEGRADED and DANGEROUS

PLZ - do not use them any longer (as far as you manage to get replacements ... ), REMOVE them and drive this system w#AC-POWER-ONLY

A serious warning, in mind of an incident (aka 'accident' - a total burn-down of a laptop w#such degradated batteries, short before a total 'Burn-Down' of my homelab ), that happened to me ~ 5years ago,

greetz, l0dr3

I agree. Both batteries are an imminent fire hazard and should be disposed of immediately.

Posted: **Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:29 pm**

Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:43 pm Please share the full QSI.

Edited my OP to do so.

Posted: **Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:59 pm**

mxismythang wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:36 pm... I cancel, and continue working, but within a few more seconds to a minute, the OS performs an unexpected shutdown...

You can try disabling tlp, or just play with the relevant lines (you can also install tlpui for a gui ...).

At least to try you can disable it completely:

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sudo nano /etc/tlp.conf

TLP_ENABLE=1

change to 0

save, close, reboot.

Posted: **Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:32 pm**

Charlie Brown wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:59 pm
mxismythang wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:36 pm... I cancel, and continue working, but within a few more seconds to a minute, the OS performs an unexpected shutdown...
You can try disabling tlp, or just the relevant lines (you can also install tlpui for a gui ...).

At least to try you can disable it completely:
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sudo nano /etc/tlp.conf
TLP_ENABLE=1

change to 0

save, close, reboot.

Thank you for this option. I tried as you suggested, but instead of the unprompted shutdown, I received four lines of the usual text shutdown procedure and then a hang. CTRL-F7 showed a failure to invoke TLP Shutdown. It seems something is still triggering a shutdown, but with TLP disabled, it fails.

Posted: **Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:19 pm**

l0dr3 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:31 pm BOTH of yo batteries (according to the description you gave) are DEGRADED and DANGEROUS

PLZ - do not use them any longer (as far as you manage to get replacements ... ), REMOVE them and drive this system w#AC-POWER-ONLY

A serious warning, in mind of an incident (aka 'accident' - a total burn-down of a laptop w#such degradated batteries, short before a total 'Burn-Down' of my homelab ), that happened to me ~ 5years ago,

greetz, l0dr3

Good to know, my eepc batterie has 10 years old, and I now have the same issue since one month , and the batterie can not be fulled completely (blinking orange led at about 90% of the charge). So it is removed now. (but I guess it is not a lithium-ion but probably a cadium-nickel tech. , so less dangerous)

Posted: **Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:26 pm**

You can also try disabling the service completely: "MX Service Manager" from menu.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:53 pm**

In the end, nothing I did stopped the machine from acting at a self-imposed critical level. I gave up trying and a friend in the US sent me a replacement battery.

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