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Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:38 am
by TURK
As per the title,
1st question - As I'm ditching Windows ( Windows 7 Ultimate ), currently running a 64Bit PC and wanting to install MX Linux on a 32Bit laptop first, when I click on the 32Bit download link I get transferred to the 64Bit download page as my system has been recognised as a 64Bit computer.

Is a 64Bit .ISO file backward compatible with a 32Bit system?

Many thanks ;)


TURK

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:47 am
by j2mcgreg
Yes, you can run our 64 bit OS on 32 bit systems.

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:54 am
by TURK
Hi mate,

Many thanks for getting back to me so quickly ................. I'm well impressed!
That's excellent news, as now I know I only need to download the 64Bit .ISO on one USB key, as I will also be installing MX Linux on my main tower PC that is running a 64Bit procecesor.

I'll be 'playing' with MX on my laptop for a couple of days before I do the complete transition from Windows.

Many thanks for the prompt support.


TURK

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:30 am
by j2mcgreg
I have a tip for you. If you still have Windows on your tower PC, download the ISO there and also download Rufus. Rufus is a utility that you can use to create a bootable usb drive from the MX ISO. When you use Rufus for the 32 bit install drive, you are going to want to use MBR partitioning.

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:42 am
by TURK
Great tip mate! ;)
Sorry to call you 'mate' but you have such a bizarre username ................. or should I simply call you Greg?

I downloaded Rufus a few days ago preparing for this, but then I wondered whether I should use 'Etcher' instead :confused:
Not knowing one from the other, your tip helps a lot, thank you.

I just managed to download the 32Bit version ( states for 32Bit systems only ), as this install is on an old laptop, that's the one I will use.
I noticed that's it's about 200MB smaller, so there must be a reason. At least that's my reasoning! :happy:

Thanks Greg


TURK

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:45 am
by j2mcgreg
It's not Greg :lol:

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:50 am
by TURK
Ooops, sorry about that :frown:
I noticed that at the end of your username .................. it's wrong to assume isn't it!

I'll call you .............. 'Mate' then ;)



TURK

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:24 am
by MXRobo
@TURK
Just to mention and to show some of the MX tools.
Once you have it downloaded and while you're 'playing' with it, you could also maybe download it again and use some of the MX tools to create a bootable live usb using:
MX Live USB Maker,
or using that tool, create a writable live-USB, modify it, remaster it using MX RemasterCC (or use some type of persistence before booting) and use that to install – j2mcgreg will likely correct me if I'm incorrect.

Just a few suggestions if you don't mind – it you have the time:
Look at MX Welcome, MX Tour (click on the links for more detail), and obviously the manual, and MX Tools, like MX Tweak and MX Boot Options.

Check out MX Snapshot, maybe Timeshift, and MXPI>Enabled Repos>user-installed-packages
to install those packages from MX21 to MX23 when it's released – maybe mid summer.

Maybe install thunar-media-plugin to show audio info when right-clicking audio files, and gtk-hash to do hash checks from thunar for downloaded ISOs.

HTH

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:05 pm
by Stevo
j2mcgreg wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:47 am Yes, you can run our 64 bit OS on 32 bit systems.
You have that reversed. You can run 32-bit MX on 64-bit hardware, but not 64-bit on 32-bit hardware.

That applies to any computer OS, including Windows.

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:12 pm
by j2mcgreg
Stevo wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:05 pm
j2mcgreg wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:47 am Yes, you can run our 64 bit OS on 32 bit systems.
You have that reversed. You can run 32-bit MX on 64-bit hardware, but not 64-bit on 32-bit hardware.

That applies to any computer OS, including Windows.
Mea Culpa

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:40 pm
by TURK
Thanks for all the great tips guys, now got MX running quite well on my 20 year old laptop !

With a mere 2GB of RAM it is actually quite surprising that it does indeed run OK, obviously not the fastest thing in the world, but at least it's now a usable computer. I did have Windows 7 Pro 'running' on it before, but it was like watching grass grow!

All of a sudden, computing has become fun again, so much so, I have been at my PC ( and laptop ) for a straight 16 hours now :happy: I've been following 'SteamPunk' YouTube channel all day, I've learned more in one day using Linux than I ever had.


TURK

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:16 pm
by junoluna
^
so did you install 64 bit or 32 bit in the end?

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:46 am
by TURK
Hi junoluna,

32Bit ...............
I tried downloading the 64Bit at first as the intention is to install MX on my main PC ( old laptop is purely to familiarise myself with the OS ). As I'm in France, I tried downloading from a French mirror, no success though, it kept on redirecting me!? I did manage to download the 32Bit in the end though from a different mirror. As it's designed for 32Bit systems I thought it best to use it ( I'll download the 64Bit for my main PC ).

I've already got my MX laptop on my Windows network ( setup is a breeze! ), and I've already transferred some documents. I must say I am very impressed on how little RAM is needed to run this OS ................ Windows was totally incapable of running anything on a 20 year old laptop. No doubt MX will run ( fly ) extremely well on my tower PC that has 32GB of RAM!


TURK

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:23 am
by j2mcgreg
TURK wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:46 am Hi junoluna,

32Bit ...............
I tried downloading the 64Bit at first as the intention is to install MX on my main PC ( old laptop is purely to familiarise myself with the OS ). As I'm in France, I tried downloading from a French mirror, no success though, it kept on redirecting me!? I did manage to download the 32Bit in the end though from a different mirror. As it's designed for 32Bit systems I thought it best to use it ( I'll download the 64Bit for my main PC ).

I've already got my MX laptop on my Windows network ( setup is a breeze! ), and I've already transferred some documents. I must say I am very impressed on how little RAM is needed to run this OS ................ Windows was totally incapable of running anything on a 20 year old laptop. No doubt MX will run ( fly ) extremely well on my tower PC that has 32GB of RAM!


TURK
Appologies for my earlier error. I suggest that you use Repo Manager in MX Tools to switch your main repository to either Ablasserdam, The Netherlands or Milan, Italy. Both of these are owned and operated by the MX team and are always up to date -- no more redirects.

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:10 pm
by Stevo
With just 2 gigs of RAM, running MX Fluxbox's desktop would save a bit more of your precious, precious memory.

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:59 pm
by MXRobo
Maybe try Antix 32bit.

Re: Hi all, new Linux user .................. just a quick question if I may.

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:07 am
by TURK
Thanks for the feedback guys, but just to reiterate, the MX21 32Bit install on my old laptop was merely a test, an experiment as such. As nothing else really worked properly.
My prime objective was to 'test', get a feeling for Linux MX before installing it onto my desktop ( main PC ), running 16GB RAM and 2 large monitors.

I'm happy to say, that this is my very first post on the forum using my main PC running 64Bit Linux MX23 ! ; )

Yeah, I decided to hold on a little while for MX23 to be available, as this desktop is my main PC and will replace Windows ( for ever! ).
I'm currently running off a Live USB stick, as my eventual install of MX23 will somewhat be a little awkward, shall we say!

But that's for another thread.


Ta Ta for now ; )


TURK