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Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:28 pm**

When installing Mxlinux everything is fine and I have 2 problems.

1.- If I choose to install GRUB, upon reaching 96% of the installation, the pc freezes completely, and if I reboot, I get this:

2.-If I decide not to install it, everything continues as normal, but when restarting, it tells me "No bootable device".

My computer is an Acer ES 1-533. I have already read many forums about possible solutions and with none I have been able to solve it, the installer is updated to the latest version and I do it through LiveCD, and i'm not trying dual boot

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:42 pm**

Just boot live session again and before clicking "install" , "Quick System Info" from Menu please :)

P.S. Till then: Especially if it's an SSD , change "sata mode" to Ahci in Bios settings.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:24 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:42 pm Just boot live session again and before clicking "install" , "Quick System Info" from Menu please :)

P.S. Till then: Especially if it's an SSD , change "sata mode" to Ahci in Bios settings.

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 4.19.0-16-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-19.4_x64 patito feo March 31  2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire ES1-533 v: V1.07 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Acer model: Stego_AP v: V1.07 serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: 1.07 
           date: 11/14/2016 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT1 charge: 6.8 Wh condition: 27.8/37.3 Wh (75%) volts: 10.6/11.4 
           model: COMPAL 0033314234314341 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Discharging 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Celeron N3350 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Goldmont 
           family: 6 model-id: 5C (92) stepping: 9 microcode: 40 L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 4377 
           Speed: 2361 MHz min/max: 800/2400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2362 2: 2288 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           chip ID: 8086:5a85 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 500 (Broxton 2x6) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 
           compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor N4200/N3350/E3900 Series Audio Cluster 
           vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:0e.0 
           chip ID: 8086:5a98 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-16-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
           vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 1000 bus ID: 01:00.0 
           chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168NGW [Stone Peak] driver: iwlwifi v: kernel 
           port: 1000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 8086:24fb 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 480.18 GiB used: 25.0 MiB (0.0%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000LPCX-21VHAT0 size: 465.76 GiB 
           block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 5400 rpm 
           serial: <filter> rev: 1A01 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Kingston model: DataTraveler 2.0 size: 14.42 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: PMAP scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 2.90 GiB used: 25.0 MiB (0.8%) fs: overlay 
           source: ERR-102 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 53.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 194 Uptime: 2m Memory: 3.68 GiB used: 501.9 MiB (13.3%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36

The bios does not allow me to change a SATA, it's a hdd

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:36 pm**

MrAxolotl wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:28 pm 2.-If I decide not to install it, everything continues as normal, but when restarting, it tells me "No bootable device".

So, when you skip Grub installation, the installation finishes successfully (100 % ) .. And the message is normal as you have no Grub. So you can simply start "MX Boot Repair" on live session from Menu... "Reinstall Grub" ..

https://ibb.co/Gc8M7DC

Install on: ESP

Location: Your ESP partition (fat32 / vfat)

Select ... location: Your MX's partition.
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P.S. Also on GParted check (or do if required) if your ESP partition has both flags: boot (and) esp

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:40 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:36 pm
MrAxolotl wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:28 pm 2.-If I decide not to install it, everything continues as normal, but when restarting, it tells me "No bootable device".
So, when you skip Grub installation, the installation finishes successfully (100 % ) .. And the message is normal as you have no Grub. So you can simply start "MX Boot Repair" on live session from Menu... "Reinstall Grub" ..

https://ibb.co/Gc8M7DC

Install on: ESP

Location: Your ESP partition (fat32 / vfat)

Select ... location: Your MX's partition.

P.S. Also on GParted check (or do if required) if your ESP partition has both flags: boot (and) esp

I'll try

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:41 pm**

MrAxolotl wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:28 pm When installing Mxlinux everything is fine and I have 2 problems.

1.- If I choose to install GRUB, upon reaching 96% of the installation, the pc freezes completely, and if I reboot, I get this:

2.-If I decide not to install it, everything continues as normal, but when restarting, it tells me "No bootable device".

My computer is an Acer ES 1-533. I have already read many forums about possible solutions and with none I have been able to solve it, the installer is updated to the latest version and I do it through LiveCD, and i'm not trying dual boot

Unfortunately I cannot view the external hosted image...

But anyway.. here we go
Some of those Acer 1-533 and also Acer ES1-132, do freeze, when trying to setup EFI boot loader, b/c they seem to have a readonly "NVRAM", which is normally writeable to store UEFI boot loader entries.

You may have already tried this, but if not please do proceed within this order:

* Do boot from MX LiveUSB/DVD and install without enabling the GRUB installation.

* Do take away the "tick" to reboot on the last Installer-window. Close the installer after installation finished,
don't reboot. If you have already installed, do boot again with MX LiveUSB/DVD

* Search in Whisker Menu for " Chroot Recue Scan"
or open terminal and run

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sudo chroot-rescue-scan

* Select the found MX Linux entry. It will open a "chroot"ed terminal within the MX Linux installation

Now within the chroot terminal do this step by step:

** first create the missing efi folder:

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mkdir /boot/efi

** next mount the efi-folder to the ESP (EFI System partition )

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mount -a

** Now two tricky parts:
first: install EFI-GRUB without writing into NVRAM ( b/c this would otherwise freeze)

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grub-install --no-nvram --bootloader-id=MX19  --force-extra-removable

** next an Acer 1-xxx special step:

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cp -a /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT /boot/efi/EFI/Linux

The last step is needed as the readonyl NVRAM holds a couple of preset EFI entries burned into the NVRAM by the manufacture. One of those entries is /EFI/Linux/Bootx64.efi, which is create by the last copy command.

** Disable UEFI-firmware setup access from GRUB (this step may not be needed, but to be safe to avoid a hanger we do it here):

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chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware

** Generate the GRUB menu:

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update-grub

That's it.
Now type: exit
and close and reboot, and with some luck and it may boot in MX Linux.
HTH

+++EDIT+++: to mention you may need to turn secure boot off within UEFI firmware setup.
+++EDIT2+++: added the generation of the GRUB menu

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:11 pm**

fehlix wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:41 pm
MrAxolotl wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:28 pm When installing Mxlinux everything is fine and I have 2 problems.

1.- If I choose to install GRUB, upon reaching 96% of the installation, the pc freezes completely, and if I reboot, I get this:

2.-If I decide not to install it, everything continues as normal, but when restarting, it tells me "No bootable device".

My computer is an Acer ES 1-533. I have already read many forums about possible solutions and with none I have been able to solve it, the installer is updated to the latest version and I do it through LiveCD, and i'm not trying dual boot
Unfortunately I cannot view the external hosted image...

But anyway.. here we go
Some of those Acer 1-533 and also Acer ES1-132, do freeze, when trying to setup EFI boot loader, b/c they seem to have a readonly "NVRAM", which is normally writeable to store UEFI boot loader entries.

You may have already tried this, but if not please do proceed within this order:

* Do boot from MX LiveUSB/DVD and install without enabling the GRUB installation.

* Do take away the "tick" to reboot on the last Installer-window. Close the installer after installation finished,
don't reboot. If you have already installed, do boot again with MX LiveUSB/DVD

* Search in Whisker Menu for " Chroot Recue Scan"
or open terminal and run
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sudo chroot-rescue-scan
* Select the found MX Linux entry. It will open a "chroot"ed terminal within the MX Linux installation

Now within the chroot terminal do this step by step:

** first create the missing efi folder:
Code: Select all
mkdir /boot/efi
** next mount the efi-folder to the ESP (EFI System partition )
Code: Select all
mount -a
** Now two tricky parts:
first: install EFI-GRUB without writing into NVRAM ( b/c this would otherwise freeze)
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grub-install --no-nvram --bootloader-id=MX19  --force-extra-removable
** next an Acer 1-xxx special step:
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cp -a /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT /boot/efi/EFI/Linux
The last step is needed as the readonyl NVRAM holds a couple of preset EFI entries burned into the NVRAM by the manufacture. One of those entries is /EFI/Linux/Bootx64.efi, which is create by the last copy command.
That's it.
Now type: exit
and close and reboot, and with some luck and it may boot in MX Linux.
HTH

++EDIT+++: to mention you may need to turn secure boot off within UEFI firmware setup.

I get this

https://img.superdanova.com//file/1625955006c84f652.jpg

(if I put it in [img] it doesn't show)

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:20 pm**

MrAxolotl wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:11 pm
I get this

(if I put it in [img] it doesn't show)

Yes, b/c I have forgotten to write the last steps (I'll update the post above):
Do boot again with LiveUSB/DVD and in the chrooted terminal: Do this

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mount -a

Disable UEFI-firmware setup access from GRUB (this step may not be needed, but to be safe to avoid a hanger we do it here):

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chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware

Generate the GRUB menu:

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update-grub

Done!
Reboot

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:53 pm**

Many Acer laptops with Insyde UEFI from that era required that you set a password to access the setup utility before it unlocked some crucial settings. This was undocumented with anything that came with the machine. I just wanted to install MX, not have to solve some dungeon crawler game puzzle to do so!

Not to mention that BIOS or Windows updates would set everything in the BIOS back to defaults except the password.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:05 pm**

fehlix wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:20 pm
MrAxolotl wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:11 pm
I get this

(if I put it in [img] it doesn't show)
Yes, b/c I have forgotten to write the last steps (I'll update the post above):
Do boot again with LiveUSB/DVD and in the chrooted terminal: Do this
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mount -a
Disable UEFI-firmware setup access from GRUB (this step may not be needed, but to be safe to avoid a hanger we do it here):
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chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware
Generate the GRUB menu:
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update-grub
Done!
Reboot

Thank you very much, I was already desperate, I was already 2 weeks like this, you are my hero and I will be eternally grateful

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:30 pm**

OK, here for the record, were I got this magic information mainly from:

* A post early this year within this MX Linux forum where @hamak reported about "Acer ES1-132 No Bootable Device" viewtopic.php?f=107&t=62554

* Another post by a user "spektro37" within an Acer forum, where this was mentioned a bit earlier
https://community.acer.com/en/discussio ... ent_490737

* An even earlier post in Russian
https://www.linux.org.ru/forum/linux-i ... d=13169511
by user V1KT0P, who wrote:

В общем нашел причину того что невозможно загрузиться. Все дело в рукожопии тех кто писал UEFI прошивку. Эти *удаки не нашли ничего лучшего чем захардкорить пути по которым возможен запуск, я вытянул из прошивки вот такие данные:

which translates into English using DeepL.com:

In general, I found the reason why it is impossible to boot. It's all about the handiwork of those who wrote the UEFI firmware. These *mistakes* couldn't find anything better than to hardcode the paths that can be used for startup, so I pulled these data out of the firmware:

and shows this list of hardcoded entries within the readonly NVRAM:

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\EFI\Linux\BOOTX64.efi (Linux)
\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi (Windows Boot Manager)
\EFI\ubuntu\shim.efi (ubuntu SECURE)
\EFI\ubuntu\shim$cpu$.efi (ubuntu SECURE)
\EFI\ubuntu\grub.efi (ubuntu NORMAL)
\EFI\fedora\shim.efi (Fedora)
\EFI\android\bootx64.efi (Android)
\EFI\opensuse\grubx64.efi (topenSUSE)
\EFI\redhat\grub.efi (Red Hat Linux)
\EFI\SuSE\elilo.efi (SuSE Linux)
\EFI\ubuntu\grub$cpu$.efi (ubuntu NORMAL)

So all thanks to these guys finding and posting a way to boot into those Acer's.

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