Regressions in live USB

[OKie]

Downloaded the latest MX19.4 and installed using the MX Live USB maker.

1) I selected persistence = ALL, saving = ask. I couldn't get it to work. It tried to save the configuration once. After that, it never asked again, and it never saved any of my changes. So, that didn't work at all.

2) I was trying to run MX Boot Repair off the live USB. When I attempted to do grub repair or install, it reported an error, that it couldn't set up chroot environment. Nothing further to report, other than it appeared to fail. I solve the problem by booting from another MX disk full system and ran it on my second disk as a target. The problem seems to be only with the live USB, possibly related to the first problem.

I can run some tests, but I'm really sick of rebooting from that disk at this point.

[dolphin_oracle]

How did you make your stick? The file system needs to be writable for the persistence and save features to work

[fehlix]

Downloaded the latest MX19.4 and installed using the MX Live USB maker.

1) I selected persistence = ALL, saving = ask. I couldn't get it to work. It tried to save the configuration once. After that, it never asked again, and it never saved any of my changes. So, that didn't work at all.

Did you also re-selected persist_all when re-booted? The "Semi-automatic" save-option (ask to save on reboot/shutdown), will not save the persist_all boot parameter, but will only work when booted again with persistence boot-parameter like persists_all, or persist_root.

[OKie]

Downloaded the latest MX19.4 and installed using the MX Live USB maker.

1) I selected persistence = ALL, saving = ask. I couldn't get it to work. It tried to save the configuration once. After that, it never asked again, and it never saved any of my changes. So, that didn't work at all.

Did you also re-selected persist_all when re-booted? The "Semi-automatic" save-option (ask to save on reboot/shutdown), will not save the persist_all boot parameter, but will only work when booted again with persistence boot-parameter like persists_all, or persist_root.

Huh? So you're saying it's designed to not have persistence unless you manually change the boot parameter every time?

[OKie]

How did you make your stick? The file system needs to be writable for the persistence and save features to work

Full Featured - writable

Actually, it was made on MX 19.3, but using a fresh MX 19.4 ISO

[dolphin_oracle]

Yeah you need to make sure the boot persistence parameters are used. Else the system defaults to a nonperistent boot. The save feature should preserve the boot codes

[fehlix]

Downloaded the latest MX19.4 and installed using the MX Live USB maker.

1) I selected persistence = ALL, saving = ask. I couldn't get it to work. It tried to save the configuration once. After that, it never asked again, and it never saved any of my changes. So, that didn't work at all.

Did you also re-selected persist_all when re-booted? The "Semi-automatic" save-option (ask to save on reboot/shutdown), will not save the persist_all boot parameter, but will only work when booted again with persistence boot-parameter like persists_all, or persist_root.

Huh? So you're saying it's designed to not have persistence unless you manually change the boot parameter every time?

To be clear: persistence save-option is the one you selected. The selected boot parameter can be "saved" additionally, e.g. when booting in BIOS-mode using F8->save. Note: You can choose/ persistence boot parameter with every boot or have the F8->saved one pre-selected. In case of UEFI-boot you get asked after going through text-menu selections screens to "save" the chosen boot parameter to become available at next boot.

[OKie]

Did you also re-selected persist_all when re-booted? The "Semi-automatic" save-option (ask to save on reboot/shutdown), will not save the persist_all boot parameter, but will only work when booted again with persistence boot-parameter like persists_all, or persist_root.

Huh? So you're saying it's designed to not have persistence unless you manually change the boot parameter every time?

To be clear: persistence save-option is the one you selected. The selected boot parameter can be "saved" additionally, e.g. when booting in BIOS-mode using F8->save. Note: You can choose/ persistence boot parameter with every boot or have the F8->saved one pre-selected. In case of UEFI-boot you get asked after going through text-menu selections screens to "save" the chosen boot parameter to become available at next boot.

I'm sorry, but that's not clear at all.

Here's the problem: when someone decides to make the live usb full featured and writable, they're pretty much indicating that they want to be able to add software and hold their data. Nobody is going to be looking for boot parameters in addition. Everything should be set up ready to go. I could swear this was working this way in MX 19.2. I made a nice bootable USB. Maybe I got lucky for some reason.

Is there somewhere to request this as a feature upgrade for the MX live USB maker?

Also, your instructions seem to indicate that, on my current live USB, I should select F5 persistence = all, autosave, then go to F8 and change that to "save" to actually save these boot parameters. Is that about right? Anything else?

[dolphin_oracle]

you can do the F5 persistence option and the F8 save option, yes. F8 saves the boot options for later use.

there are a lot more options that can be saved than just the persistence options.

[OKie]

you can do the F5 persistence option and the F8 save option, yes. F8 saves the boot options for later use.

there are a lot more options that can be saved than just the persistence options.

Why is it done this way? It seems like it's setting people up for failure.