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I'd rather not use Thunderbird, so I was wondering what others use/recommend for MX?

I am coming from windows using outlook (both online and the 365 version on local) so something that can connect with that. Thunderbird can use outlook, but as I wrote I'd rather not use it if possible.

Thanks

Well.. you asked.

Thunderbird (78.10.0)

I just use web clients, but I think evolution is pretty complete as well.

Interlink Mail
https://binaryoutcast.com/projects/interlink/

Eadwine Rose wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:17 pm Well.. you asked.

Thunderbird

hahaha!

dolphin_oracle wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:17 pm I just use web clients, but I think evolution is pretty complete as well.

Yeah using the web is ok as I can just go straight to the app, but entering the password all the time is a pain! I'll check out evolution thanks

Bamber wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:26 pm Interlink Mail
https://binaryoutcast.com/projects/interlink/

How secure is it?
Thunderbird only gets a moderate rating, I was looking for something a bit higher if poss.

EDIT: It's not available in synaptic so as a new Linux user, it might be safer to avoid at this stage (as in I don't want to break anything I cannot fix haha!). Evolution is in Synaptic so I might try that.

Always check MX Package Installer first when installing something. That takes care of a lot of things on its own that Synaptic installs don't.

I use claws-mail, light and powerful.

Thunderbird...

Thunderbird v31.7.0

Thunderbird 68.12.0

Thunderbird 68.12.0

Well.. I am no exception it seems: Thunderbird 68.12.0 ;-)

Also Thunderbird 68.12.0

pax-eterna wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:13 pm I'd rather not use Thunderbird, so I was wondering what others use/recommend for MX?

I am coming from windows using outlook (both online and the 365 version on local) so something that can connect with that. Thunderbird can use outlook, but as I wrote I'd rather not use it if possible.

Thanks

Check out Mailspring. I used it a few years ago and it felt "pro" with support for many protocols. The free version is good enough and it is FOSS on GitHub. I only need IMAP so I use Interlink. I'm considering going back to Mailspring despite having a weakness for more niche software.

https://getmailspring.com/

Thunderbird, but I'm waiting for MailSpring to make registration optional to give it a try.

A free, open-source future for Mailspring - Information - Mailspring Community
https://community.getmailspring.com/t/a ... spring/484
While Mailspring’s focus on growing a paid user base has been critical to building a sustainable foundation for the open-source project, it has also made it less appealing to users interested in a basic free client. While you can use Mailspring entirely for free, you’ve had to create a Mailspring ID to do so. (The “Mailspring ID” stores metadata that can’t be synced to IMAP for snoozing, send later and read receipts, and holds your “Pro” membership should you upgrade.)

In the first half of this year, I will merge changes making it possible to opt-out of the Mailspring ID and use the app without it’s web services. (Please be aware this is not a trivial change!)

I use web clients.

Use Thunderbird. Better to get over your prejudice.

I used to use Sylpheed-claws (in windows). Atm, with the secure servers I use I refuse to pay the extra monthly fee so that I can use a client. Web browser here all the way. I wish I could use a client. I'd try to go back to Sylpheed. I use evolution atm for contacts and calendar only. Thunderbird is as history as the insecure servers you can access for free. Nothing against Tbird, I just prefer sylpheed.

SeaMonkey.

Switched to it years ago because I got so sick of the Lightning add-on in Thunderbird not staying disabled as it was told to.
Now I see it's been included in SeaMonkey with the latest update, hopefully it will not show the same behaviour as it did with Thunderbird, so far it's remained disabled as it should...

I use Evolution because of Google Calendar integration.

Thunderbird 78.7.0

BlueMail. Modern and functional, it just works and fits my needs, period!

I mainly use the web-clients, but I also have Evolution to open some spam accounts all at once, and Claws Mail to keep a POP-3 mailbox of my academic e-mails.

I use Thunderbird, because of the Google calendar integration, which USED to work well until this week... ;-( In addition, it works well under Windows, where the Google calendar still works. On MX the calendar shows correctly for the current month, but changing to another month does nothing, so I must live in the moment-- no past or future... Whether this new malady has anything to do with MX, some update glitch or whatever is still a VERY ANNOYING mystery.

Web clients for the simplicity. I'm sending and receiving emails, not royal dispatches.

Seamonkey internet suite here.

Cool, thanks everyone for the suggestions - I'll suss out all of them!

I see MX Package Installer has Evolution. This is a nice email client that can handle Exchange Web Services.

After you have installed Evolution from the Package Installer, use the following in the Terminal:

$ sudo apt-get install evolution-ews

(from - https://rc.partners.org/kb/article/1420 )

I am using Vivaldi Mail within the Vivaldi browser.

Yes, I am using Vivaldi Mail within the Vivaldi browser too.

... I 'am still scotched with Claws-Mail. ;-)

Thunderbird 102 here. Been using it for YEARS and nothing has beat it!

Coupled with etesync for private calendar ( with sharing) and contacts - ++

Still loving the simplicity of Sylpheed

I use Thunderbird 102 from flatpak but it started to get a bit funky when I tried to print out an email as a pdf file.
At times the destination directory was easy to find and export to. Then Thunderbird started to show nonsensical numbers rather than folder names as the destination directory.
Maybe it was something I jiggled around and the law of unintended consequences caught up with me?

So I also use webmail when The Bird lets me down. Strangely enough - or not so if you see where I am coming from - I prefer 102 to 78 especially if I do a bit of distrohopping.
The import and export of things in 102 is a game changer as far as I am concerned.
so, answer in short T'bird 102 with Webmail via Librewolf as alternative when needed

Claws-Mail for me

I prefer to use Sylpheed or Claws-Mail (a folk of Sylpheed), because it adopts so-called "MH Message Handling System"
MH saves an file per one e-mail in mail box directory.
On the contrary, Thunderbird saves lots of e-mails as one big file in its directory. This is a major difference.
You can find the article explaining about it at Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MH_Messag ... ing_System

I use "maildir" on Thunderbird which saves one file per email as opposed to "mbox" which saves all the emails for an account or folder in one file. I don't know know if mbox is still the default on TB or not, but I switched must be at least a couple of years ago with no problems including the switchover.

JeffA wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:15 am I use "maildir" on Thunderbird which saves one file per email as opposed to "mbox" which saves all the emails for an account or folder in one file. I don't know know if mbox is still the default on TB or not, but I switched must be at least a couple of years ago with no problems including the switchover.

Thank @JeffA I will give maildir a try on the other computer and see how things go.

user-green wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:34 pm I prefer to use Sylpheed or Claws-Mail (a folk of Sylpheed), because it adopts so-called "MH Message Handling System"
MH saves an file per one e-mail in mail box directory...

+1 It is my case too.

Aronticuz wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:49 am Thank @JeffA I will give maildir a try on the other computer and see how things go.

Please let us know how it goes.

But be careful, I just checked and apparently it still comes with the same warnings that they've had for years now: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ma ... hunderbird

Before I switched I read the experiences of others who had switched to maildir on TB, and as I recall the experiences had been positive or I most likely wouldn't have tried it, and I did (and always do) back everything up before I tried, and as I said I haven't had any problems. But it does concern me a little that after all this time they still disable it by default.

By the way, I like Thunderbird because of the calendar and event sidebar that I couldn't get to work as well for me in other clients if they had calendars. Except maybe the KDE PIM apps (Kontact or Korganize or something?), and I didn't try it long enough to get too used to it, one thing I didn't like was how it left parts of all it's apps all over the place, instead of one clean install in one or two directories, as I recall. But KDE is the one I might would use if not for TB, but it's also one that I don't hear much about.

JeffA wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:04 pm ... abridged ...
Please let us know how it goes.

But be careful, I just checked and apparently it still comes with the same warnings that they've had for years now: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ma ... hunderbird

Thank you for the additional info.
I will look at the link for sure.
I don't think it will change anything on the email server so naively assume any foul ups will be in the method T'bird stores the files locally.

If it means an uninstall - a reinstall - sort of thing I will put it down to experience and tactile learning = no harm done (isn't linux a beaut!)

pax-eterna wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:30 pm

dolphin_oracle wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:17 pm I just use web clients, but I think evolution is pretty complete as well.

Yeah using the web is ok as I can just go straight to the app, but entering the password all the time is a pain! I'll check out evolution thanks

Since, AFAIK, there are no free web clients for protonmail I am using the proton web client in combination with
Package: webapp-manager
Version: 1.1.5-1~mx21+1
Launch websites as if they were apps.

That way I have a nice app icon in plank, which when I click it opens a (firefox) window with the look and feel of a "normal" app.
(w/o all the browser elements which are usually visible, like addressbar, bookmarkbar, etc...)
Passwords get saved automatically if one wishes so.