Packard Bell PC - what to do?

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Packard Bell PC - what to do?

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Snapshot created on: 20200920_2146
System:
  Host: <filter> Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-6-amd64 
  root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 
  dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-19.3_x64 patito feo October 21  2019 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: Packard Bell model: imedia S2185 serial: <filter> 
  UEFI: American Megatrends v: P11-B0 date: 05/30/2014 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: AMD E1-2500 APU with Radeon HD Graphics 
  bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Jaguar family: 16 (22) model-id: N/A stepping: 1 
  microcode: 700010F L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
  flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm 
  bogomips: 5589 
  Speed: 799 MHz min/max: 800/1400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 799 2: 799 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
  Type: mds status: Not affected 
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 
  mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Kabini [Radeon HD 8240 / R3 Series] 
  vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 00:01.0 
  chip ID: 1002:9838 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: ati,radeon 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1440x900~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: AMD KABINI (DRM 2.50.0 4.19.0-6-amd64 LLVM 7.0.1) 
  v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Kabini HDMI/DP Audio vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:01.1 chip ID: 1002:9840 
  Device-2: AMD FCH Azalia vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:14.2 chip ID: 1022:780d 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-6-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On 
  driver: ath9k v: kernel port: f100 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 168c:0034 
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 
  bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  IF-ID-1: usb0 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 82.57 GiB (8.9%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD10EZEX-21M2NA0 
  size: 931.51 GiB block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B 
  speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> rev: 1A01 scheme: GPT 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: 929.23 GiB size: 913.65 GiB (98.32%) 
  used: 82.57 GiB (9.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
  ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap 
  swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 38.8 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 39 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
  1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
  2: deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.0.x buster main
  3: deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.x buster main
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:
  Processes: 182 Uptime: 52m Memory: 7.24 GiB used: 1.06 GiB (14.7%) 
  Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 
  Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 
I have a Packard Bell PC that runs like your swimming in treacle, i.e. very slowly. As it's a Packard Bell the processor cannot be upgraded and I cannot even install a dedicated Graphics card to help speed it up.

I therefore invite you all to make suggestions as to what I should do with this PC. The funnier the better.

Huckleberry Finn

Re: Packard Bell PC - what to do?

#2 Post by Huckleberry Finn »

This won't make it faster but just by the way:

Your kernel is still 4.19.0-6 , you can update to the latest 4.19 from MX Package Installer with 2 clicks, at least for security .. :)

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Re: Packard Bell PC - what to do?

#3 Post by j2mcgreg »

You might try Antix which is sort of a pre-cursor to MX:

https://antixlinux.com/

Edited for bad spelling and not wanting to sound like a git.
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Re: Packard Bell PC - what to do?

#4 Post by AVLinux »

Hmmm,

Do you have a pantry or closet that has a shelf just a bit out or reach..? Maybe stepping on the tower would help... use the tower vertically or horizontally depending on the amount of extra reach you need..

Is that ceramic Gnome doorstop not quite cutting it for keeping that back door open when you bring groceries in? Perhaps the Packard Bell could be wrapped in a gingham table cloth and make an attractive and stylish improved door stop..

Do you have a young child or grandchild with a stubborn loose tooth?? I'm sure some high test fishing line and a hearty toss of 'old PB' will fix things up in a jiffy...

Or maybe just try antiX...

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Re: Packard Bell PC - what to do?

#5 Post by Stevo »

Not funny, but getting an inexpensive SSD and running off that usually speeds things up amazingly. You can use the spinny drive for data.

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Re: Packard Bell PC - what to do?

#6 Post by JayM »

CSB time: In 1990 one of the managers at work asked me for advice on buying his first computer for home use. I told him to get anything but a Packard Bell, and if he did, don't come and ask me for help with it later. A week or so later he came over to ask me a question about his new PC. I asked him what he got and he said a Packard Bell because it was so cheap. I cut him off right there and refused to help him. He was shocked because he thought I was joking when I told him that earlier. I wasn't.
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Re: Packard Bell PC - what to do?

#7 Post by linexer2016 »

Hello NickStone,

If your budget might stretch perhaps the following suggestion could yield improvement.
1. invest in an intel NUC. These little dynamos are a very small form factor and pack quite a punch.
2. Stevo's suggestion "...You can use the spinny drive for data...." is probably redundant with 1. above but a spinny drive never is wasted as a backup medium.

Check out https://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au ... s/nuc.html

One caveat, I installed another Linux distro on a NUC for a friend who migrated from a traditional desktop. We had some hiccups in getting the distro to load (see relevant threads in this forum). However, he has happily been running his NUC with Linux Lite for quite some time. I expect by now, MX would have no issues in running on the NUC however, keep that caveat in mind.
Good luck with however you proceed.

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Re: Packard Bell PC - what to do?

#8 Post by JayM »

Attach a pair of old joysticks, install pacman4console, set it up to boot to a console rather than a GUI desktop and autoload the game, turning it into a dedicated single-purpose pacman machine.
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Re: Packard Bell PC - what to do?

#9 Post by timkb4cq »

Stevo wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:36 pm Not funny, but getting an inexpensive SSD and running off that usually speeds things up amazingly. You can use the spinny drive for data.
+1
I have an E1-2100 with 4GB ram that I use primarily as a server. With an SSD it's no speed demon, but it's usable on the desktop. With a rotating drive it's annoyingly slow.
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Re: Packard Bell PC - what to do?

#10 Post by JayM »

From what I can find online about the AMD E1-2500 APU it's actually a (low-end) mobile processor. https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Jaguar/A ... -2500.html. I wonder if Packard Bell also included a 5400RPM HDD? If so I third the idea of adding an SSD and using the HDD for backups and data storage. In any event an SSD would speed it up, either just a bit or dramatically depending on if its SATA controller is SATAI or SATAII. With SATAI you would get about a 10%-15% speed increase while with SATAII the boot and runtime speed would probably be double that of booting and running on the spinner.

The processor's a 1.4GHz 2-core 2-thread 64-bit unit so I would also recommend following the advice in How To for MX-Fluxbox to use less memory to turn MX into a lighter-weight OS that would perform better on that hardware. Then the OP would still be able to get some use from it as a desktop PC.
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