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second screen bug
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:24 pm
by preterive
Hello,
if i want to use a second screen and vlc, the vlc crash, if i move it on the second screen.
If i use kodi and do this, kodi only show a black screen.
If i only use the second screen, kodi works without problems and vlc not.
First screen: 1366x768 60hz
Second screen: 1920x1080 24hz
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:51 pm
by Jerry3904
I don't use Kodi myself, but with a bit of Google magic I see that you can turn on debugging and then there will be a log to look at.
https://kodi.wiki/view/Log_file/Advanced
Once you have that log, the Kodi Forum may be more able to help if someone here can not:
https://forum.kodi.tv/
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:54 pm
by preterive
I have the Problem also with vlc and many many more programs.
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:59 pm
by dolphin_oracle
you might also try installing the newer xfce4-settings from our test repo. it includes some multi-monitor fixes. No idea if it will address your problem, but it can't hurt to try.
use mx-packageinstaller->full catalog tab->test repo to do the install if you decide to try.
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:21 pm
by preterive
Same Problem already.
If it is important: i have no desktop on the second screen. Only the background image.
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:59 pm
by fehlix
preterive wrote: Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:21 pm
If it is important: i have no desktop on the second screen. Only the background image.
Hmm.. I do got the impression you decribe your issue in the wrong order.
You might first go into Settings -> Display and sort out the Display settings
to have a proper 2-Monitor Display. Other wise you will not have a desktop on the 2nd monitor.
Simply check whether you can move deskop icons onto the 2nd monitor-desktop!
Only if you have a proper desktop on both monitor, you might try to move open app-window
onto the 2nd display.
--fehlix
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:12 am
by preterive
This is my config:
and this is the picture on the second screen:

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I could use Firefox and antoher without problems. But not kodi or vlc.
Is there a way to update to vlc 3.0.4 and to the newest kodi version?
I try it with antoher repo but without luck, because some packets are too old.
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:20 am
by preterive
it also not work with the new vlc drom the test repo.
It also not work with kodi from test repo.
the vlc log:
https://pastebin.com/bqT1qcBa
kodi works in the windows mode without problems. but not in Fullscreen mode.
Edit: if i have kodi on the second screen in window mode and then change screen from default to the first screen, nothing happend. if i change it to the second screen, kodi have a black screen.
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:16 am
by fehlix
You do show only one setting of the two monitors!
I do recommend the following
make sure with both monitors to select "Use this Monitor",
Select "Mirror both" ( "Bildschirm spiegeln" )
Select only one "Main Monitor" "Haptbildschirm"
Now deselect again "Mirror both" ( "Bildschirm spiegeln" )"
Make sure again only select one "Main Monitor" "Haptbilschirm"
As I said already above. Only when the 2nd monitor is integrated with the
xfce-"desktop" environment, it makes sense to test applications using both monitors.
Just check whether you can move an desktop icon from one monitor
desktop onto the other.
--fehlix
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:59 am
by linwinux
Was für ein Computer ist das ... Laptop oder PC ... Rechner Geschwindigkeit, RAM, Prozessor, 64bit oder 32bit?
Hast du in den Display/Bildschirm Einstellungen schon mal versucht mit nur einem einzigen Display auszukommen? Erst mal den Laptop Bildschirm erkennen lassen, dann den Zweiten einstellen, gefolgt vom Laptop Bildschirm ...
gar nicht benutzen. Ich hatte in der Vergangenheit eine Maschine die lediglich nur ein einziges Display erkennen konnte. Zwar hatte ich die Möglichkeit ein Zweites Display anzuschließen, aber wegen meiner minderwertigen Grafik Karte bedeutete das, dass es lediglich möglich war egal welchen der beiden Bildschirme zu benutzen, nur nicht beide zusammen.
What kind of computer is this ... Laptop or PC ... Calculator speed, RAM, processor, 64bit or 32bit? Have you tried in the display / screen settings ever with only a single display to get along? First let the laptop screen recognize, then adjust the second, followed by the laptop screen ... do not use. In the past, I had a machine that could only recognize a single display. Although I had the option to connect a second display, but because of my inferior graphics card meant that it was only possible to use which of the two screens, but not both together.
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Re: second screen bug
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:08 am
by Eadwine Rose
Mod note: please provide English translations when writing in a foreign language in a non-foreign language forum section, thank you
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:19 am
by linwinux
Eadwine Rose wrote: Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:08 am
Mod note: please provide English translations when writing in a foreign language in a non-foreign language forum section, thank you
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Once I noticed that a German installation of MX was being used ... and since the original poster may not have noticed a German section here ... I chose to respond in that language in order to be more accommodating. Sorry for not realizing that this was against forum rules. Several people here have had no problem whatsoever using Google translate in the past, right in this very forum ... so why is it a problem now? I think as a forum regular I deserve the benefit of the doubt, not forcing me to write everything in duplicate.
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Re: second screen bug
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:28 am
by Eadwine Rose
It is common courtesy for people to provide translations for non German (or other languages) speakers.
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:35 am
by preterive
linwinux wrote: Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:59 am
Was für ein Computer ist das ... Laptop oder PC ... Rechner Geschwindigkeit, RAM, Prozessor, 64bit oder 32bit?
Hast du in den Display/Bildschirm Einstellungen schon mal versucht mit nur einem einzigen Display auszukommen? Erst mal den Laptop Bildschirm erkennen lassen, dann den Zweiten einstellen, gefolgt vom Laptop Bildschirm ...
gar nicht benutzen. Ich hatte in der Vergangenheit eine Maschine die lediglich nur ein einziges Display erkennen konnte. Zwar hatte ich die Möglichkeit ein Zweites Display anzuschließen, aber wegen meiner minderwertigen Grafik Karte bedeutete das, dass es lediglich möglich war egal welchen der beiden Bildschirme zu benutzen, nur nicht beide zusammen.
What kind of computer is this ... Laptop or PC ... Calculator speed, RAM, processor, 64bit or 32bit? Have you tried in the display / screen settings ever with only a single display to get along? First let the laptop screen recognize, then adjust the second, followed by the laptop screen ... do not use. In the past, I had a machine that could only recognize a single display. Although I had the option to connect a second display, but because of my inferior graphics card meant that it was only possible to use which of the two screens, but not both together.
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Laptop, 64 Bis intel i3 4. gen.
8GB ram
Mit nur einen schirm läuft Kodi. vlc aber nicht. Ich nutze kodi jetzt einfach im Fenstermodus und dann über Vollbild. Vlc läuft trotzdem nicht. selber fehler wie hier:
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=45284&p=449736#p449736
englich from deepl:
Laptop, 64 To intel i3 4th gen.
8GB ram
With only one screen, Kodi. vlc will not run. I now simply encode in window mode and then over full screen. Vlc is still not running. same error as here:
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=45284&p=449736#p449736
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:29 am
by linwinux
Kannst du dir den smplayer installieren und mal versuchen ob der alles abspielt?
Can you install smplayer in order to see if that will play everything for you?
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Ich weiss das du schon Kodi & VLC benutzt hast, aber war das auch mit MX Linux gewesen, oder mit einem anderen Linux?
I know that you've used Kodi & VLC in the past, but was that with MX Linux or did you have those working in another distro?
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Wir spielen bei uns Zuhause alles direct von Festplatte mit VLC ab, aber smplayer hat von Haus aus alle Codecs vor-installiert.
In our home we utilize VLC to play everything directly from hard disk, but smplayer comes with all codecs pre-installed already.
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Kodi finde ich in Ordnung für sogenannte TV Boxen, aber nicht so gut for Computer.
Kodi is pretty good for TV boxes, but we don't care for it very much on Computers.
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Bitte verwende ab jetzt für die Deutsche Sprache den Deutschsprachigen Teil vom MX Linux Forum, denn diese dämliche Doppel-Schreibereien finde ich ehrlich gesagt bescheuert. Hier ist der Link:
viewforum.php?f=136
From now on please use the German Language portion of the MX Linux Forum for all German Text postings. Personally, I find these silly double-postings in two languages absolutely ridiculous. Here's the link:
viewforum.php?f=136
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Das Deutschsprachige Sub-Forum ist zwar relativ neu, aber Leute beantworten dort Fragen ohne das man alles doppelt schreiben muss.
The German Language sub-forum is relatively new, but people there do reply to questions, so everything doesn't need to be written in duplicate.
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Re: second screen bug
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:30 am
by Eadwine Rose
linwinux wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:29 amFrom now on please use the German Language portion of the MX Linux Forum for all German Text postings. Personally, I find these silly double-postings in two languages absolutely ridiculous. Here's the link:
viewforum.php?f=136
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Das Deutschsprachige Sub-Forum ist zwar relativ neu, aber Leute beantworten dort Fragen ohne das man alles doppelt schreiben muss.
The German Language sub-forum is relatively new, but people there do reply to questions, so everything doesn't need to be written in duplicate.
Mod post:
preterive: Please know that Linwinux is not a mod and does not determine for you where you can post. You are welcome to post anywhere you like, the only thing we ask is if you do post in a different language in the English parts of the forum to provide an English translation along with the post to make it easy for everyone to follow.
Linwinux: you are not a mod, please refrain from acting like one.
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:44 am
by linwinux
It was a suggestion, nothing more ... where did you read a command in that?
From now on please use the German Language portion of the MX Linux Forum for all German Text postings.
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It makes perfect sense to point this out and to let someone know
(as an additional courtesy), where to find the German language sub-forum.
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Re: second screen bug
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:00 pm
by richb
Moderator comment.
I asked you before to take issues with other users and that includes Moderators to PM. This is the second time that you have ignored my comments as Moderator/Administrator. Please do not ignore in the future.
I would close this thread but the OP's issue has not been resolved as far I can tell. The gracious thing for you to do is edit the post by eliminating your comments and send a PM.
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:13 pm
by cyrilus31
Yes please everyone let's calm down and try to find a solution to this issue
@ preterive : the first thing to do when you ask for help is to describe your PC configuration. MX Tools > Quick System Info (sorry I don't know German for it). It will help identify issues.
And I second fehlix, could you show the settings of the second monitor! Is 24Hz usual frequency??
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:43 pm
by preterive
Hello,
my system is in my profile or here:
https://pastebin.com/YMqpanPT
yes, i use 24Hz on the second screen. the first screen is with 60" .
The pastebin text is without the second screen. It is a 40" FullHD sony screen.
yes, Kodi & VLC worked with ubuntu without any problems. but this was last year.
I have the same problem like there:
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=45284 .
I try smplayer on the second screen tomorrow. Okay? But i really hate smplayer for the bad design.
@linwinux:
Ich kanns auch gerne ins deutsche Forum schreiben. dort können es nur leider nicht besonders viele sehen. Schreibe hier erstmal nur in englisch.
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:13 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Do provide the English translation.. even if it's just that short sentence. Thanks :)
I sure hope things get sorted for you.
That system info wasn't done in the MX install, or was it? If not, you can put the output of mxtools and then quick system info between code tags. The button that looks like </> can be used for it. That'll prevent LOOOOOOONG text and puts it in a nice scroll box :)
Re: second screen bug
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:49 pm
by preterive
yes, this was it.