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Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:47 pm
by cuscotravelservices
Hi All,
Iceweasel is using a lot of CPU with only a few (4 to 6) Tabs open. It has even crashed on me.
Memory usage appears normal - only around 200 MB.
Is this because I am using it in the Live USB environment?
I have observed the same thing in the Live USB environment for wattOS R8.
Do any of you recommend another Firefox based browser for antiX-MX14?
Thanks, Michael.
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:57 pm
by kmathern
Does the machine still have only 256 MB like you mentioned here:
http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 72#p343672 ?
It would only have 224 MB of RAM to work with (256MB minus 32MB the integrated graphics uses) and it might be using the swap partition fairly heavily.
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:03 pm
by cuscotravelservices
No, it's got the 512 MB of RAM but it's only using around 200 MB with that many tabs open.
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:07 pm
by dolphin_oracle
well, you could install firefox or qupzilla, both available in the mx-package-installer.
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:15 pm
by fu-sen
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:38 pm
by lucky9
cuscotravelservices wrote:
Iceweasel is using a lot of CPU with only a few (4 to 6) Tabs open. It has even crashed on me.
How high?
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:48 pm
by BitJam
@lucky9, you weren't asked to jump yet. *BitJam ducks*
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:40 pm
by lucky9
Might not have been talking about jumping either.
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:32 am
by cuscotravelservices
lucky9 wrote:How high?
100% and not moving much from that level neither.
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:59 am
by chrispop99
What do you have open on the tabs?
With a Pentium 3 laptop running MX-14.2 installed, and four tabs open on Iceweasel each with static content, CPU is around 20%. Changing one of the open tabs to YouTube puts the CPU on 100% all the time even with no video running.
Figures for Firefox are virtually identical.
Figures for QupZilla are around 8% with four static pages open, and 15% with YouTube (No video).
It's a shame QupZilla has some stability issues.
Chris
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:04 am
by Jerry3904
It's a shame QupZilla has some stability issues.
I think its time will come--I have it as the default for my systems.
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:09 am
by kmathern
chrispop99 wrote:With a Pentium 3 laptop running MX-14.2 installed, and four tabs open on Iceweasel each with static content, CPU is around 20%. Changing one of the open tabs to YouTube puts the CPU on 100% all the time even with no video running.
Figures for Firefox are virtually identical. ...
Does the CPU usage go down if you install a flash blocking addon to FF/Iceweasel? (such as
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ or
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... shstopper/)
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:59 am
by chrispop99
kmathern wrote:chrispop99 wrote:With a Pentium 3 laptop running MX-14.2 installed, and four tabs open on Iceweasel each with static content, CPU is around 20%. Changing one of the open tabs to YouTube puts the CPU on 100% all the time even with no video running.
Figures for Firefox are virtually identical. ...
Does the CPU usage go down if you install a flash blocking addon to FF/Iceweasel? (such as
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ or
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... shstopper/)
<Installed Flashblock to test>
Yes, significantly on YouTube. Of course, attempting to play a video puts it up to 100%, and the results are not really watchable.
On a slightly more powerful box with an Athlon XP 3000, CPU with four tabs open including YouTube (no video) the CPU load is about 8%; with a video playing it's around 80%.
I don't think there is anything wrong with the OP's setup; modern browsers and content do hammer the system somewhat.
Chris
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:20 am
by anticapitalista
For watching youtube video, using minitube (or whatever) is a must on old PIII boxes.
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:53 am
by chrispop99
anticapitalista wrote:For watching youtube video, using minitube (or whatever) is a must on old PIII boxes.
I'm glad I only keep these old boxes for testing!
Snag with Minitube is the inability to play Vevo content on the version that ships with non-PAE.
SMPlayer YouTube Browser (on non-PAE) will play Vevo and other content if you select VLC as the player; bizarrely, I've never been able to make it play with SMPlayer.
It's just about bearable in Qup if you have nothing else open though.
Chris
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:05 am
by Stevo
Seamonkey is based on Firefox code, but lighter on system resources. It may be able to handle Flash a bit better. It would be informative to see what "top" says is eating all the CPU cycles.
Though it probably uses more RAM, XBMC can also install a Youtube browser and player that will play the Youtube mp4 files, skipping the CPU-hogging Flash versions. I'm not sure if it will download video or play Vevo videos, but there are also quite a few more XBMC plugins for other video sites.
Edit: The Youtube addon does play and download Vevo content in XBMC

Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:59 pm
by cuscotravelservices
Thanks for the feedback folks.
I can't remember what pages I had open now.
Can I install the NoScript Add-On whilst using a Live USB without persistence?
If not I'll have to get the USB Flash drive configured in Persistence mode and get back to you all.
Thanks, Michael.
Re: Iceweasel - Live USB - MX14.1.1 - High CPU Usage
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:13 pm
by BitJam
cuscotravelservices wrote:Can I install the NoScript Add-On whilst using a Live USB without persistence?
You can but it won't survive a reboot. Since NoScript is something installed by the user (I think) then you should be able to keep it around if you enable home persistence. You can do this with the MX-14 LiveUSB by going to the RemasterCC and using the "enable persistence" program to make a homefs file. it is MUCH easier in MX-14.2. Just select "Home Persistence" from the LiveUSB boot menu and you will be guided through the steps. It even works on the LiveCD but you have to select which device to save the persistence files on.