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MikeR
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Re: Why Cloudflare CAPTCHAs to even see the forum??

#81 Post by MikeR »

@aika wrote:
Who is supposed to believe that? This works without any problems with Firefox beta in MX21.
Have you tried reading a post in a non-English language by using
Right-click --> Translate this page ?
Updated FF goes into a loop (at least it does for me, on two separate distros) :bawling:
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Re: Why Cloudflare CAPTCHAs to even see the forum??

#82 Post by aika »

MikeR wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:32 pm...
Have you tried reading a post in a non-English language by using
Right-click --> Translate this page ...
Yes, but not with right click. The Google translation option at the top of the forum page works well.

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Re: Why Cloudflare CAPTCHAs to even see the forum??

#83 Post by MikeR »

aika wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:53 pm
MikeR wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:32 pm...
Have you tried reading a post in a non-English language by using
Right-click --> Translate this page ...
Yes, but not with right click. The Google translation option at the top of the forum page works well.
@aika
You are so right!!! Kudos and thanks!! :number1:
Back to using FF :happy:

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Re: Why Cloudflare CAPTCHAs to even see the forum??

#84 Post by siamhie »

I'm no longer getting the CAPTCHA screen. The forum loads right up. LibreWolf 131.0.2-1.
I am still having to use Midnight Lizard to get the forum black as Dark Reader still does not work but that's fine. I just activate ML when I visit the forum and turn it off when I leave.
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Re: Why Cloudflare CAPTCHAs to even see the forum??

#85 Post by DukeComposed »

siamhie wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:19 pm I am still having to use Midnight Lizard to get the forum black as Dark Reader still does not work
I noticed that Dark Reader had stopped working over the weekend along with most everyone else. I've simply changed my Dark Reader settings for the forum from "Dynamic" to either "Filter", "FIlter+", or "Static". All continue to operate as expected and redraw the pages of the forum in a dark mode without needing any extra effort on my part.

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Re: Why Cloudflare CAPTCHAs to even see the forum??

#86 Post by siamhie »

DukeComposed wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:37 pm I've simply changed my Dark Reader settings for the forum from "Dynamic" to either "Filter", "FIlter+", or "Static". All continue to operate as expected and redraw the pages of the forum in a dark mode without needing any extra effort on my part.
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Thanks @DukeComposed. That worked perfectly and I have gotten rid of Midnight Lizard.

I selected filter+ and set my contrast to +15 so that I could still see the usernames and quoted posts and set DR to save those settings just for the forum.
All other sites are set to dynamic with the contrast set to +50.

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The forum feels back to normal again. :dancingman:
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Re: Why Cloudflare CAPTCHAs to even see the forum??

#87 Post by i_ri »

"feels back to normal" with palemoon asks less often the challenge page seems remembered.

Now on mx_kde with browser angelfish through cloudflare challenge and remembers permission like palemoon does. low ram. clean look.

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Re: Why Cloudflare CAPTCHAs to even see the forum??

#88 Post by /df »

T3KN05H4M4N wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:10 pm ...
Actually, Firefox ESR is the default browser in antiX just fyi....
I also like the Turnstile option. It may just be a better alternative and allow more users with different browsers easier access. Thanks for sharing!
I believe that Turnstile is the "captcha" technology being used. CF no longer uses recaptcha.net, a G front known for educating users across the world in the characteristics of the US streetscape, but which was the recommended way to use G's Captcha without requiring the G .com site to be enabled for JS. hcaptcha.com is a non-G (apparently) alternative. At xcancel.com (a Twitter front-end), you are prompted to enter a number from a graphic challenge generated with CSS.

The CF bouncer has a suite of checks that might be applied to your innocent forum access. It's not clear how JS crashes are seen by the bouncer. Perhaps if some core JS fails in the challenge procedure, you lose but if an individual challenge crashes another will be tried; or perhaps any JS crash disqualifies the access. The former assumption could explain why some browsers only fail occasionally.

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Re: Why Cloudflare CAPTCHAs to even see the forum??

#89 Post by T3KN05H4M4N »

/df wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:04 am
T3KN05H4M4N wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:10 pm ...
Actually, Firefox ESR is the default browser in antiX just fyi....
I also like the Turnstile option. It may just be a better alternative and allow more users with different browsers easier access. Thanks for sharing!
I believe that Turnstile is the "captcha" technology being used. CF no longer uses recaptcha.net, a G front known for educating users across the world in the characteristics of the US streetscape, but which was the recommended way to use G's Captcha without requiring the G .com site to be enabled for JS. hcaptcha.com is a non-G (apparently) alternative. At xcancel.com (a Twitter front-end), you are prompted to enter a number from a graphic challenge generated with CSS.

The CF bouncer has a suite of checks that might be applied to your innocent forum access. It's not clear how JS crashes are seen by the bouncer. Perhaps if some core JS fails in the challenge procedure, you lose but if an individual challenge crashes another will be tried; or perhaps any JS crash disqualifies the access. The former assumption could explain why some browsers only fail occasionally.
Yeah I only glanced at the features at the time, but when I had more time to research it, I realized that was what was already being used lol. By the way, I'm still having to do the prove that I'm human thing. I'm using FF. I'm also using a VPN and I have FF configured a certain way so that could be why I don't know. I'll have to look further into it later because I see that many people are not having to do that much anymore to access the forum. However, I don't actually mind it asking me to prove I'm human. Helps weed out the bots
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Re: Why Cloudflare CAPTCHAs to even see the forum??

#90 Post by Be OK »

Now if i use the quick reply or a link to a other page ,it go many times to "the onion site disconnected". and that are no onion links, so thanks cloudfare. .

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