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Re: After install cannot boot

#81 Post by CharlesV »

Please forgive me if this has been covered, I scanned for it but didnt see it.

First, the OP *was* able to boot an MX23 LiveUSB and attempt an install...

Second, AFTER that attempted install, two things were obvious:
1) The LiveUSB disk didnt work again, and
2) There appears to be an install ON the HP nvme - just not booting from it -unless its boot strapped from an option from the OTHER live usb.

So..
a) Something happened to the MX23 live boot! Has there been a Second mx 23 Live boot created and tried out ?

b) Has there been any attempt reset the HP bios and ONLY turn off secure boot, then attempt an MX 23 install again?

On my HP (2023) I had several times when the MX installer would attempt to write to the USB stick on install, and when I didnt catch it, it obviously was a mess and I had to redo the stick.
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Re: After install cannot boot

#82 Post by CharlesV »

And one more potential thing ... Why not install mx 21 onto this HP, using a mouse, and then once up and loaded, push updates and work at the trackpad issue ?
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Re: After install cannot boot

#83 Post by Charlie Brown »

CharlesV wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:27 am...
a) Something happened to the MX23 live boot!..
Yes, but it works (boots) on other computers :)

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Re: After install cannot boot

#84 Post by Charlie Brown »

CharlesV wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:27 am...b) Has there been any attempt reset the HP bios and ONLY turn off secure boot, then ...
Yes, even at post #5 :)

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Re: After install cannot boot

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If that is the case, then WHY was OP able to boot and install to the HP, but not able to boot again with that stick ?
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Re: After install cannot boot

#86 Post by CharlesV »

Charlie Brown wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:31 am
CharlesV wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:27 am...b) Has there been any attempt reset the HP bios and ONLY turn off secure boot, then ...
Yes, even at post #5 :)
AH, but there was a bunch of stuff listed in post # 6... so my question was if there was a reset and *only* a secure boot off.
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Re: After install cannot boot

#87 Post by j2mcgreg »

heydave wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:02 am I just accepted the defaults. I am just a user in over my head. That's why I like MX, it takes care of those things for me.
I think that you should rewrite the MX ISO to your install drive using our Live USB Maker, but this time, prior to the actual write. click on "Show Advanced Options" and then put a check mark beside GPT partitioning. Then let the utility write the ISO. Once it's complete, use the drive to reinstall MX using the "Automatic Install using entire drive" option on your laptop. That's how I set up Live USB Maker when I put MX 23 on my HP 15. By way of proof that it works, here's the QSI for my HP 15:

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System:
  Kernel: 6.2.14-1-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable hpet=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1
    BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.2.14-1-liquorix-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23_ahs_x64 Libretto July 31  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 15-ef2xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Chassis:
    type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: HP model: 887A v: 59.21 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.27 date: 10/20/2022
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.5 Wh (99.5%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) volts: 13.0 min: 11.3
    model: HP Primary type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: charging
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M325 serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 3 5300U with Radeon Graphics bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 gen: 3
    level: v3 note: check built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23)
    model-id: 0x68 (104) stepping: 1 microcode: 0x8608104
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 tpc: 2 threads: 8 smt: enabled cache: L1: 256 KiB
    desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 2 MiB desc: 4x512 KiB L3: 4 MiB desc: 1x4 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2692 high: 3893 min/max: 1400/3900 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1729 2: 1700 3: 3743 4: 3129 5: 3893 6: 3889
    7: 1730 8: 1730 bogomips: 41521
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT enabled with STIBP protection
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: always-on, RSB filling,
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Lucienne vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: GCN-5 code: Vega
    process: GF 14nm built: 2017-20 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s ports: active: eDP-1 empty: HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:164c
    class-ID: 0300 temp: 35.0 C
  Device-2: Luxvisions Innotech HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-3:3
    chip-ID: 30c9:0013 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 mapped: eDP model: AU Optronics 0x5799 built: 2021 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60
    dpi: 142 gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes:
    max: 1920x1080 min: 640x480
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.49
    6.2.14-1-liquorix-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel bus-ID: 1-2:2 pcie: chip-ID: 041e:324d class-ID: 0300 gen: 3 serial: <filter>
    speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 03:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1637
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD ACP/ACP3X/ACP6x Audio Coprocessor vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: snd_rn_pci_acp3x v: kernel alternate: snd_pci_acp3x, snd_pci_acp5x, snd_pci_acp6x,
    snd_acp_pci, snd_rpl_pci_acp6x, snd_pci_ps, snd_sof_amd_renoir, snd_sof_amd_rembrandt pcie:
    gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 03:00.5
    chip-ID: 1022:15e2 class-ID: 0480
  Device-3: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 03:00.6
    chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403
  Device-4: Creative Sound Blaster Play! 3 type: USB driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid
  API: ALSA v: k6.2.14-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8822CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: rtw_8822ce v: N/A modules: rtw88_8822ce,wl pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1
    port: f000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:c822 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-4:4 chip-ID: 0bda:b00c
    class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 3.0 lmp-v: 5.1
    sub-v: d2e3 hci-v: 5.1 rev: cc6
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:6 sco-mtu: 255:12 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park
    link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio,
    telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 22.46 GiB (4.7%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1006
    size: 476.94 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: HPS2 temp: 28.9 C scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 476.69 GiB size: 468.13 GiB (98.21%) used: 22.46 GiB (4.8%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 3 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 40.1 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 34.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): fan-1: 0 fan-2: 0
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2093 libs: 1068 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 270 Uptime: 5h 12m wakeups: 28067 Memory: 7.09 GiB used: 1.95 GiB (27.5%)
  Init: SysVinit v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
  alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
HP 15; ryzen 3 5300U APU; 500 Gb SSD; 8GB ram
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Re: After install cannot boot

#88 Post by heydave »

Maybe its just me, but I doubt the USB sticks are an issue. And it might be mostly a disk boot corruption causing the BIOS on the laptop to not recognize the boot partition where GRUB sits. Perhaps if possible, use the HP tool to recover the device first back to its original state since none of the current data/MX21/MX23 is needed anyway with the first installation @heydave used when he selected the "whole disk" option and got the "Hard Disk 3F0 Error"?

If the OP wants to try to recover back to original state, he might want to try using the HP Cloud Recovery Tool (if supported). To do this, you have to use another laptop with Windows and access to Microsoft Store, and download the hp cloud recovery tool and follow instructions to put onto a USB stick. Then use the USB stick to recover the first HP laptop back to its factory state.
I did try the built in recovery tool, but it was apparently looking for windows (which was gone). I would like to start over from the original state, but I do not have access to a windows computer.
First, the OP *was* able to boot an MX23 LiveUSB and attempt an install...

Second, AFTER that attempted install, two things were obvious:
1) The LiveUSB disk didnt work again, and
2) There appears to be an install ON the HP nvme - just not booting from it -unless its boot strapped from an option from the OTHER live usb.

So..
a) Something happened to the MX23 live boot! Has there been a Second mx 23 Live boot created and tried out ?

b) Has there been any attempt reset the HP bios and ONLY turn off secure boot, then attempt an MX 23 install again?

On my HP (2023) I had several times when the MX installer would attempt to write to the USB stick on install, and when I didnt catch it, it obviously was a mess and I had to redo the stick.
I did not make a second stick, but the MX23 stick does work as a live USB on another system so not installed onto the USB.
The MX23 NVME (that I get to via MX21 stick/rescue boot) is the one i installed (same user name password etc.).
We did attempt to reset BIOS to original.

So... should I make another MX23 Live USB, reset the BIOS again?

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Re: After install cannot boot

#89 Post by CharlesV »

j2mcgreg wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:34 am
heydave wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:02 am I just accepted the defaults. I am just a user in over my head. That's why I like MX, it takes care of those things for me.
I think that you should rewrite the MX ISO to your install drive using our Live USB Maker, but this time, prior to the actual write. click on "Show Advanced Options" and then put a check mark beside GPT partitioning. Then let the utility write the ISO. Once it's complete, use the drive to reinstall MX using the "Automatic Install using entire drive" option on your laptop. That's how I set up Live USB Maker when I put MX 23 on my HP 15. By way of proof that it works, here's the QSI for my HP 15:

+1 ( My HP : HP ENVY x360 2-in-1 Laptop 15-ew0xxx 2/2023 )

Yes, new MX 23 live boot, reset bios, only secure boot off.
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Re: After install cannot boot

#90 Post by heydave »

Headed to my other system to make the USB... Fingers crossed...

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