MX Linux Forum

Posted: **Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:24 am**

This thread is for feedback and issue reports for MX-23_KDE_alpha2.

**update mx-installer before testing installer. should now be settting hibernation grub options to be able to resume from swapfile

Be sure to include the output of quick-system-info with your report.
If posting nvidia-installer (ddm-mx) issues, please post the contents of /var/log/ddm.log.
If posting remaster issues, please include the contents of /var/log/live/live-remaster.log
If posting installer issues, please include the contents of /var/log/minstall.log
If posting issues with MX-PackageInstaller “Popular Apps”, please post contents of /var/log/mxpi.log or /var/log/mxpi.log.old (whichever contains the log of your issue).

if posting about issues with KDE widgets or settings, please be specific about which widget or settings you are referring to.

Posted: **Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:43 pm**

Suggest you correct the thread title!

Posted: **Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:49 pm**

Title corrected.to MX-23_KDE alpha2 feedback thread

Posted: **Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:41 pm**

In MX Tweak System Tray icon size appears to have no affect. A native Plasma setting on the systray has a small icon setting or size with panel height that does work. Actually this was the same on MX 21

Posted: **Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:24 pm**

Widget sensors do not display. Individual Core Usage, Total CPU Use, Memory Usage. And when right clicking to open the specific monitor the following message pops up.
These do display properly in MX 21.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-7-amd64 [6.1.20-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-7-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.2 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-23_alpha2_KDE_x64
    Libretto April 10 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 3
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: F2A68HM-H v: x.x serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends
    v: FB date: 04/22/2015
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech MX Keys Wireless Keyboard serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
  Device-2: hidpp_battery_1 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse MX Master 3 serial: <filter>
    charge: 100% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD A8-7600 Radeon R7 10 Compute Cores 4C+6G bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Steamroller
    level: v2 built: 2014 process: GF 28nm family: 0x15 (21) model-id: 0x30 (48) stepping: 1
    microcode: 0x6003106
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 256 KiB desc: d-4x16 KiB; i-2x96 KiB
    L2: 4 MiB desc: 2x2 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1416 high: 1469 min/max: 1400/3100 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1404 2: 1469 3: 1397 4: 1397 bogomips: 24754
  Flags: avx ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT vulnerable
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not
    affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics] vendor: Gigabyte driver: radeon v: kernel
    alternate: amdgpu arch: GCN-2 code: Sea Islands process: GF/TSMC 16-28nm built: 2013-17 ports:
    active: VGA-1 empty: DVI-D-1,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:01.0 chip-ID: 1002:1313 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Logitech Webcam Pro 9000 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo bus-ID: 5-2:2
    chip-ID: 046d:0809 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: radeon
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: radeon display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: VGA-1 mapped: VGA-0 model: Samsung S22D300 serial: <filter> built: 2015
    res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102 gamma: 1.2 size: 477x268mm (18.78x10.55") diag: 547mm (21.5")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: KAVERI ( LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 2.50 6.1.0-7-amd64)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Kaveri HDMI/DP Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 5-2:2 v: kernel
    bus-ID: 00:01.1 chip-ID: 046d:0809 class-ID: 0102 chip-ID: 1002:1308 serial: <filter>
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD FCH Azalia vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:14.2
    chip-ID: 1022:780d class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: Logitech Webcam Pro 9000 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
  Sound API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-7-amd64 running: yes
  Sound Server-1: PulseAudio v: 16.1 running: no
  Sound Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte driver: r8169
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: e000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
    class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR93xx Wireless Network Adapter driver: ath9k v: kernel modules: wl
    pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:0030 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 698.66 GiB used: 14.25 GiB (2.0%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q
    scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q
    scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q
    scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 232.63 GiB size: 227.92 GiB (97.97%) used: 14.25 GiB (6.3%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sdc2 maj-min: 8:34
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sdc1 maj-min: 8:33
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 4 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swapfile
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 21.1 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 19.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2341 libs: 1308 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude pm: rpm pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak
    pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
Info:
  Processes: 221 Uptime: 1h 43m wakeups: 19 Memory: 14.58 GiB used: 2.98 GiB (20.4%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.25
Boot Mode: UEFI

Posted: **Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:40 pm**

I discovered the problem re my previous post.
In order for these monitoring widgets to show information, plasma-systemmonitor must be installed which it is not. Even though they are in the default widget list plasma-systemmonitor must also be installed.

Posted: **Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:51 pm**

richb wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:40 pm I discovered the problem re my previous post.
In order for these monitoring widgets to show information, plasma-systemmonitor must be installed which it is not. Even though they are in the default widget list plasma-systemmonitor must also be installed.

Thanks for the info, I will add it to the next build.

Posted: **Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:29 pm**

richb wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:41 pm In MX Tweak System Tray icon size appears to have no affect. A native Plasma setting on the systray has a small icon setting or size with panel height that does work. Actually this was the same on MX 21

apparnently the size settings have changed since whenever tweak was set up. I think I can revise, but please confirm that there are only two options now. scale with panel and small.

Posted: **Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:45 pm**

dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:29 pm
richb wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:41 pm In MX Tweak System Tray icon size appears to have no affect. A native Plasma setting on the systray has a small icon setting or size with panel height that does work. Actually this was the same on MX 21
apparnently the size settings have changed since whenever tweak was set up. I think I can revise, but please confirm that there are only two options now. scale with panel and small.

Yes, there are only those two options. Of course in MX Tweak there are several sizes but they have no affect. In my opinion a size option in MX Tweak is really unnecessary. Opinions may vary.

Posted: **Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:16 pm**

Downloaded and ran the ISO in Gnome Boxes on MX 21. It's very quick and easy to set up and delete a temporary VM in it compared to Virtual Box. It would be perfect if I could figure out how to transfer files between hosts and guests in it.

Unlike the XFCE version, the correct resolution is automatically detected, so I get a resolution that fills the available VM display. Also, KDE desktop effects, such as "slide-back", also work in Boxes. More to come...

Posted: **Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:27 pm**

richb wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:45 pm
dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:29 pm
richb wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:41 pm In MX Tweak System Tray icon size appears to have no affect. A native Plasma setting on the systray has a small icon setting or size with panel height that does work. Actually this was the same on MX 21
apparnently the size settings have changed since whenever tweak was set up. I think I can revise, but please confirm that there are only two options now. scale with panel and small.
Yes, there are only those two options. Of course in MX Tweak there are several sizes but they have no affect. In my opinion a size option in MX Tweak is really unnecessary. Opinions may vary.

its at minimum out of date.

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:33 am**

Running the MX23 alpha2 KDE in virtmanager on MX21 KDE. It is looking good.

Libre Office Writer does not apply the Application Style from KDE System Settings, neither the default style "Breeze" nor others. The application style in Libre Office is 2006-ish.

Libre Office does not use the language from System Settings. In 'Tools> Options > Language Settings > Languages' the Locale Setting is right [here: German], but language for User interface is not. In KDE System Settings it is right, and these settings work in Dolphin and Firefox.

A minor thing: Resizing icons in Dolphin (with scrollwheel or with slider at the bottom) is much more fluid in MX21 KDE (on metal and in VM) than in MX 23. It is not bad, it is ok, but not as fluid.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-7-amd64 [6.1.20-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-7-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.2 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-23_alpha2_KDE_x64
    Libretto April 10 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Kvm System: QEMU product: Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9, 2009) v: pc-q35-5.2
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 1 v: pc-q35-5.2 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: N/A model: N/A serial: N/A BIOS: SeaBIOS v: 1.14.0-2 date: 04/01/2014
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD EPYC-Rome bits: 64 type: SMP arch: Zen 2 gen: 3 level: v3 note: check
    built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x31 (49) stepping: 0
    microcode: 0x1000065
  Topology: cpus: 4x cores: 1 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 4x 64 KiB (256 KiB)
    desc: d-1x32 KiB; i-1x32 KiB L2: 4x 512 KiB (2 MiB) desc: 1x512 KiB L3: 4x 16 MiB (64 MiB)
    desc: 1x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2096 min/max: N/A cores: 1: 2096 2: 2096 3: 2096 4: 2096 bogomips: 16768
  Flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT disabled
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling,
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Red Hat QXL paravirtual graphic card driver: qxl v: kernel ports: active: Virtual-1
    empty: Virtual-2,Virtual-3,Virtual-4 bus-ID: 00:01.0 chip-ID: 1b36:0100 class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: N/A
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: swrast gpu: qxl note: X driver n/a display-ID: :0
    screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 507x285mm (19.96x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.9")
  Monitor-1: Virtual-1 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 size: N/A modes: max: 1024x768 min: 640x480
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 15.0.6 256 bits) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Red Hat QEMU Virtual Machine driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:293e class-ID: 0403
  Sound API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-7-amd64 running: yes
  Sound Server-1: PulseAudio v: 16.1 running: no
  Sound Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Red Hat Virtio network driver: virtio-pci v: 1 modules: virtio_pci pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: N/A bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1af4:1041 class-ID: 0200
  IF-ID-1: eth0 state: up speed: -1 duplex: unknown mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 25 GiB used: 9.74 GiB (39.0%)
  ID-1: /dev/vda maj-min: 254:0 model: N/A size: 25 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: <unknown> type: N/A serial: N/A scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown smartctl error. Unable to generate data.
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 24.99 GiB size: 24.43 GiB (97.76%) used: 9.74 GiB (39.9%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/vda1 maj-min: 254:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swapfile
Sensors:
  Src: lm-sensors+/sys Message: No sensor data found using /sys/class/hwmon or lm-sensors.
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2339 libs: 1307 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude pm: rpm pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak
    pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 194 Uptime: 43m wakeups: 111 Memory: 5.78 GiB used: 1.52 GiB (26.3%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.25
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:24 pm**

QSI

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-7-amd64 [6.1.20-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-7-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash init=/lib/systemd/systemd
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.2 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-23_alpha2_KDE_x64
    Libretto April 10 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Virtualbox System: innotek GmbH product: VirtualBox v: 1.2 serial: <superuser required>
    Chassis: Oracle Corporation type: 1 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Oracle model: VirtualBox v: 1.2 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: innotek GmbH
    v: VirtualBox date: 12/01/2006
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 49.0 Wh (98.0%) condition: 50.0/50.0 Wh (100.0%) volts: 10.0 min: 10.0
    model: innotek 1 type: Unknown serial: N/A status: not charging
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i5-8365U bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Comet/Whiskey Lake note: check
    gen: core 8 level: v2 built: 2018 process: Intel 14nm family: 6 model-id: 0x8E (142)
    stepping: 0xC (12) microcode: N/A
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 128 KiB desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB
    L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 12 MiB desc: 2x6 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1896 min/max: N/A cores: 1: 1896 2: 1896 bogomips: 7584
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT Host state unknown
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT Host state unknown
  Type: retbleed status: Vulnerable
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not
    affected
  Type: srbds status: Unknown: Dependent on hypervisor status
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: VMware SVGA II Adapter driver: vmwgfx v: 2.20.0.0 ports: active: Virtual-1
    empty: Virtual-2, Virtual-3, Virtual-4, Virtual-5, Virtual-6, Virtual-7, Virtual-8
    bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 15ad:0405 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: IMC Networks Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-4:5
    chip-ID: 13d3:56bc class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: vmware
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: swrast gpu: vmwgfx display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x981 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x260mm (20.00x10.24") s-diag: 571mm (22.47")
  Monitor-1: Virtual-1 mapped: Virtual1 res: 1920x981 hz: 60 size: N/A modes: max: 1920x981
    min: 640x480
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 15.0.6 256 bits) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801AA AC97 Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:05.0
    chip-ID: 8086:2415 class-ID: 0401
  Sound API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-7-amd64 running: yes
  Sound Server-1: PulseAudio v: 16.1 running: no
  Sound Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet driver: e1000 v: kernel port: d020 bus-ID: 00:03.0
    chip-ID: 8086:100e class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI type: network bridge driver: piix4_smbus v: N/A
    modules: i2c_piix4 port: N/A bus-ID: 00:07.0 chip-ID: 8086:7113 class-ID: 0680
  IF-ID-1: wwan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 42.48 GiB used: 233.48 GiB (549.6%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: VirtualBox model: VBOX HARDDISK size: 42.48 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1.0 scheme: MBR
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 42.47 GiB size: 41.51 GiB (97.73%) used: 9.53 GiB (22.9%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swapfile
Sensors:
  Src: lm-sensors+/sys Message: No sensor data found using /sys/class/hwmon or lm-sensors.
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2309 libs: 1259 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala pm: rpm pkgs: 0
    pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb https://ftp.arnes.si/mirrors/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb https://ftp.arnes.si/mirrors/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 189 Uptime: 8m wakeups: 449 Memory: 5.61 GiB used: 1.43 GiB (25.6%) Init: systemd
  v: 252 target: graphical (5) default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.25
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Here are the first ones:
1. Dolphin is missing those great Service menus
2. I couldn't change the background image for monochrome login screen (works in 5.24.7)

My suggestions for MX23 KDE:
1. replace simple-scan with skanlite and skanpage
2. include krename (some Dolphin services depend on it)
3. include nala
4. rethink about including apt-notifier by default (and disabling discover notifications + systray icon; discover got better, but still sucks... and muon was removed from debian 12)
5. include qml-module-qtquick-xmllistmodel (required by some widgets) and playerctl
6. replace strawberry with audacious (in qt mode)

And I love the new boot logo animation!

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:31 pm**

I'm fine with krename, not sure about nala, many people complain about multiple ways to do things "apt, apt-get, aptitude, nala, discover, mx-packageinstaller" -- and I personally use nala and like it...
I'm also file with qml-module-qtquick-xmllistmodel
Not sure about simple-scan... I will need more feedback about that, that's also what Xfce uses.

I won't add apt-notifier, discover is the default app manager in Plasma and people expect that, people who prefer apt-notifier you can install that by themselves and take a snapshot if they want to install it like that on other systems.

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:44 pm**

Discover is integral to Plasma and should be kept. There are graphics available in Discover and not elsewhere.
I am a fan of nala and would be fine with it added.

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:16 pm**

OK, will add: krename, nala, qml-module-qtquick-xmllistmodel.

What do you guys think about simple-scan.

What about "replace strawberry with audacious"

Is playerctl used for other things if we don't add audacious? Should I add it anyway?

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:20 pm**

before adding nala, I think we need to confer as to whether that is a blanket add across all versions or just this one.

I would have to try audacious. I know clementine and strawberry integrate with the pulseaudio/pipewire sound controls, but i haven't tried audacious. I presume that it does. again, the question of changing apps might cover all versions. I'm sure we will be discussing app changes. the graphics viewer in the Xfce release has already been mentioned as well.

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:37 pm**

I know clementine but not familiar with strawbwerry or audacious. (Not into those type of applications).
I tried to install simple-scan. It shows as available in the repos, goes through an install process but does not ultimately show as available??????

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:41 pm**

simple-scan is already installed, it shows in menu as "Document Scanner". markol proposed to replace it with skanlite and skanpage

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:00 pm**

Adrian wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:16 pm What about "replace strawberry with audacious"
Is playerctl used for other things if we don't add audacious? Should I add it anyway?

Here's description from https://github.com/altdesktop/playerctl

Playerctl is a command-line utility and library for controlling media players that implement the MPRIS D-Bus Interface Specification. Playerctl makes it easy to bind player actions, such as play and pause, to media keys. You can also get metadata about the playing track such as the artist and title for integration into statusline generators or other command-line tools.

Regarding Audacious... They recently switched from GTK to QT and the 4.3 version (not yet in repos) also supports Pipewire. I've been using it since the early days - no libraries, no indexing, no fancy stuff. https://audacious-media-player.org/news ... 3-released

SimpleScan gave me headaches on various machines (all running MX21 KDE Plasma 5.24.7) and that was the reason I switched to KDE apps (it's been a year or so). No problems at all since then. However SimpleScan just works on XFCE :)

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:07 pm**

Adrian wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:41 pm simple-scan is already installed, it shows in menu as "Document Scanner". markol proposed to replace it with skanlite and skanpage

Duh! I need to pay more attention I guess.
Document Scanner does the job efficiently and nicely in my case.

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:29 pm**

Is strawberry installed by default in that ISO? I thought I had to install the MX version when I booted the ISO?

Richb, Strawberry is a more actively developed fork of Clementine.

Anyway, the MX 23 version is 1.0.17, a few releases ahead of Debian the last time I looked, and theirs is still built with Qt5. When I tried that, Strawberry cmake said that Qt 5 builds, while they work, are no longer actively supported, and recommended a Qt6 build for more features, so that's what I did for MX 23. XFCE users will want to also install qt6-gtk-platformtheme so that qt6 themes will match the GTK 3 theme...

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:34 pm**

Yes, I added strawberry by default, I got whatever was available in the default enabled repos.

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:26 pm**

could testers please remove the following packages, reboot, and see if your keyboards, mice, touchpads, etcc... still operate?

xserver-xorg-input-evdev
xserver-xorg-input-kbd
xserver-xorg-input-mouse
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics

that should leave xserver-xorg-input-libinput installed and taking over from the legacy drivers.

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:00 pm**

@dolphin_oracle Yes mouse and keyboard still work. I have no other input devices.

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:38 pm**

Can you check if skanlite now scans in pdf? In the first mxkde to be released, we started with skanlite in the development /beta stage but then found it didn't give any option to scan into pdf format.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:34 am**

Is strawberry actually better than clementine at this stage ? Can it import clementine's config ?

For users installing while keeping their home folder, they'd have to redefine their preferences, playlists and re-scan their audio collection which can take time...

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:33 am**

baldyeti wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:34 am Is strawberry actually better than clementine at this stage ? Can it import clementine's config ?

There is no way Strawberry can use Clementine's config. There is a workaround, but it's pretty complicated:

https://wiki.strawberrymusicplayer.org/ ... Clementine

Personally I would stick with Clementine.

Chris

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:42 am**

asqwerth wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:38 pm Can you check if skanlite now scans in pdf? In the first mxkde to be released, we started with skanlite in the development /beta stage but then found it didn't give any option to scan into pdf format.

Skanlite in 5.24.7 offers to save scans in some 20+ image formats including pdf (if that's what you were asking?)

Edit: just checked... same in the MX23 KDE Alpha

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:29 pm**

markol wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:42 am
asqwerth wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:38 pm Can you check if skanlite now scans in pdf? In the first mxkde to be released, we started with skanlite in the development /beta stage but then found it didn't give any option to scan into pdf format.
Skanlite in 5.24.7 offers to save scans in some 20+ image formats including pdf (if that's what you were asking?)

Edit: just checked... same in the MX23 KDE Alpha

The first MX-KDE was MX19. Skanlite scanned in tons of formats then, but not pdf. It was in the first test alpha (perhaps that was a dev-only internal alpha) until we found it did not scan in pdf.

If it's now providing pdf in MX23, then there's been an improvement and perhaps @Adrian can consider it again. However, I think those who use Plasma more often than I should chip in with their preferences. I have not much skin in this game.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:33 pm**

I will be happy to replace a non-KDE app with a KDE/Qt one.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:49 pm**

Just took a look at skanlite on mX 21 and it does have more options than Document Scanner. I do not see a save as pdf option. I will boot to 23 and take a look. But from what I have seen on 21 I would vote for it to be included.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:53 pm**

One more question, do we need skanlite, or skanpage, or both? Personally I would like only one app for scanning.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:15 pm**

Skanpage does have a save as pdf option that does work. If there is a desire to have that option, and it seems like a good one to have, skanpage is the way to go.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:25 pm**

richb wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:15 pm Skanpage does have a save as pdf option that does work. If there is a desire to have that option, and it seems like a good one to have, skanpage is the way to go.

I agree. I will replace simple-scan with skanpage... speak now or forever hold your peace.

Clementine vs. Strawberry debate is continuing, I will listen to more arguments.

Any app replacement requests? I particularly look to replace anything non-KDE/Qt with native apps. Or make a better app selection in case there are two or more alternatives, like in case of skanlite and skanpage.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:44 pm**

Adrian wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:53 pm One more question, do we need skanlite, or skanpage, or both? Personally I would like only one app for scanning.

skanlite is more like simple-scan and skanpage is for multipage/book scanning. I'd vote for having them both.

Both support save to pdf. I've been using them for more than a year now and I always save scans to pdf

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:49 pm**

asqwerth wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:29 pm However, I think those who use Plasma more often than I should chip in with their preferences. I have not much skin in this game.

I'd be glad to help.
I've been running Plasma from Norbert's repos on several machines (including my personal and my work laptop) + Debian testing KDE in a VM.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:50 pm**

1. Dolphin is missing those great Service menus

Oh, yeah, I guess you mean the root-actions, KEC-extract & compress, kim4, deb-installer MX ones? Yes, I'll rebuild those for 23 so we can test if they need any changes there.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:51 pm**

Stevo wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:50 pm
1. Dolphin is missing those great Service menus
Oh, yeah, I guess you mean the root-actions, KEC-extract & compress, kim4, deb-installer MX ones? Yes, I'll rebuild those for 23 so we can test if they need any changes there.

we have a few available, but the root actions ones don't work.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:53 pm**

I stand corrected. Both have save to pdf. Missed it the first go around in scanlite. But do we still need both? If one is more for multipage it still can do single pages.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:31 pm**

But do we still need both? If one is more for multipage it still can do single pages.

I agree, I don't want both of skanpage can do what skanlite can do. Is anything missing in skanpage? Just that skanlite is simpler it's not a reason to install two scanning apps.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:54 pm**

FYI: Muon was removed from the bookworm repos, but the current stable version (muon_5.8.0-2) installs just fine... and works in MX23!

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:53 am**

After checking the "User Installed Packages" I found some more suggestions:

1. system-config-printer
If not installed it could raise an error/warning when adding network printers -> like this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=218143
I only have HP printers so I cannot confirm if this also happens with other brands

2. ocs-url
Nice to have (to directly install from store.kde.org)

3. plasma-browser-integration
Again, nice to have

4. plasma-firewall
A more simple (but KDE/integrated) implementation of a GUI for ufw

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:09 am**

I do not see mx-updater available.

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:23 am**

richb wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:09 am I do not see mx-updater available.

Package name is still apt-notifier

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:33 am**

OK Thanks. What threw me off is it is mx updater in the application menu

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:44 pm**

OK, we now have in the 23 repos:

kde-servicemenu-extract-and-compress
kde-servicemenu-checkhash-installdebs
kde-servicemenu-rootactions
kde-thumbnailer-epub

and Tim had already done kde-servicemenu-kim5 for image processing.

I'll have to check on the rootactions one. The one in 19 and 21 was using polkit to get root access, so I wonder why that stopped working.

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:12 pm**

I installed the MX 23 rootactions on the alpha2 in Boxes, and was able to open a system conf file as root in Kate, and then open a root Dolphin in that same folder.

What problems were coming up before?

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:37 pm**

Stevo wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:12 pm I installed the MX 23 rootactions on the alpha2 in Boxes, and was able to open a system conf file as root in Kate, and then open a root Dolphin in that same folder.

What problems were coming up before?

root dolphin was one I couldn't do. perhaps this is a change since 5.27 came out.

kate and kwrite can edit and save documents as root already, they just prompt when you save, same as featherpad (in action if not method)

***edit*** indeed those do seem to work now. @Adrian

Posted: **Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:35 pm**

Some MX-KDE metapackage update did pull in the new servicemenu packages, barring the rootactions. I think that can be added now. I didn't check the epub thumbnailer, but it's nice to see the cover of an epub book as a thumbnail in the file browser.

Posted: **Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:41 pm**

I installed Private Internet Access from MX Package Installer Popular Apps and it is shown installed but does not appear in the Application menu. Neither does it load with /opt/piavpn/bin/pia-client %u in a terminal which is the command that loads it in MX 21 KDE. Searched for it elsewhere and could not find it.

Posted: **Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:36 pm**

richb wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:41 pm I installed Private Internet Access from MX Package Installer Popular Apps and it is shown installed but does not appear in the Application menu. Neither does it load with /opt/piavpn/bin/pia-client %u in a terminal which is the command that loads it in MX 21 KDE. Searched for it elsewhere and could not find it.

I had to run the /usr/share/pia-downloader-installer/install_piavpn.sh file manually a couple of times before piavpn showed up in the menu.

Posted: **Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:05 pm**

That did it. I only had to run it once. Do you know why it is different than MX21 installs of PIA?

Posted: **Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:06 pm**

richb wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:05 pm That did it. I only had to run it once. Do you know why it is different than MX21 installs of PIA?

nope. I thought I had just screwed up a kwallet question and that was what the problem was.

Posted: **Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:16 pm**

dolphin_oracle wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:06 pm
richb wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:05 pm That did it. I only had to run it once. Do you know why it is different than MX21 installs of PIA?
nope. I thought I had just screwed up a kwallet question and that was what the problem was.

I do not have kwallet enabled on MX 21 or MX 23 so something else is going on. Bookworm handling something different?

Posted: **Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:38 pm**

richb wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:16 pm
dolphin_oracle wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:06 pm
richb wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:05 pm That did it. I only had to run it once. Do you know why it is different than MX21 installs of PIA?
nope. I thought I had just screwed up a kwallet question and that was what the problem was.
I do not have kwallet enabled on MX 21 or MX 23 so something else is going on. Bookworm handling something different?

possibly the sshpass function.

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The following NEW packages will be installed:
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Unpacking piavpn-downloader-installer (21.08.01) ...
Setting up piavpn-downloader-installer (21.08.01) ...
Please wait, creating menu file - stored in /home/dolphin/.fluxbox/submenus/full_menu ...
Menu file created and ready to be used
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[ OK ] downloaded 'pia-linux-3.3.1-06924.run'

Installing PIAVPN ...
QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-dolphin'
ksshaskpass: Unable to parse phrase "[sudo] password for dolphin: "
Creating directory /tmp/pia-linux.extract
 MD5 checksums are OK.sudo: a terminal is required to read the password; either use the -S option to read from standard input or configure an askpass helper
sudo: a password is required
sudo: a terminal is required to read the password; either use the -S option to read from standard input or configure an askpass helper
sudo: a password is required
sudo: a terminal is required to read the password; either use the -S option to read from standard input or configure an askpass helper
sudo: a password is required
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing Private Internet Access

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Private Internet Access Installer
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Installing PIA for x86_64, system is x86_64
✔ Added group piavpn
✔ Added group piahnsd
✔ Created piavpn systemd service
DONE!

Posted: **Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:46 pm**

appears to work OK if we skip the askpass gui and use a terminal instead. will look into it more.

**askpass seems to have a problem from inside of mxpi, but not so much from the terminal.

Posted: **Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:56 am**

Hello guys,

really a great job from you! I appreciate it!

I have 23 KDE installed and it runs very very well.
I can't find the "Online Accounts" entry in the system settings. Did you guys take that out? That's standard in Plasma 5.27, isn't it?
It would be nice if they were integrated. I have Nextcloud access and don't want to install the Nextcloud-Client unnecessarily.

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Posted: **Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:34 am**

kaccounts-providers is installed, not sure what else we need for Online Accounts...
Ah, OK we need kaccounts-integration too.

Posted: **Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:04 am**

yes, i found it and installed it. Now its works. Thanks.

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:53 am**

Hi there
It's my first post, so firstly let's say hello community :)

Is it possible to get plasma 5.27 also running in wildflower right now, or only with using alpha?

thx

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:57 am**

You should ask this as a separate question on the forum, as it isn't MX23_KDE alpha2 feedback

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:21 am**

AlphaElwedritsch wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:53 am Is it possible to get plasma 5.27 also running in wildflower right now, or only with using alpha?

I don't think it is possible to run plasma 5.27 atop debian bullseye nor MX21. It is possible though to run 5.24 LTS or 5.25 using a third-party repository, see instructions here.

If you have further questions, please post them on the relevant thread, not this one here which is dedicated to providing feedback to the MX23 alpha KDE edition (based on debian bokworm which should be released in june)

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:30 am**

User posted his question here, please respond on this issue there: https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=75059

Posted: **Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:40 pm**

OlafD wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:04 am yes, i found it and installed it. Now its works. Thanks.

I did it also
Logged in. configured to sync storage. answered with yes to integrate it in filemanager.
But where is it? Cannot find any NC folder

Posted: **Mon May 01, 2023 3:34 am**

This KDE online access and the Nextcloud integration is actually nothing more than a WebDav connection being displayed in Dolphin.
But you can also do this directly in Dolphin.
It is also a pure WebDav drive. No data is synced.
If you want to be able to use the NC data offline, you need the NC Client.

Posted: **Fri May 19, 2023 6:02 pm**

Fresh bare-metal install. After install, did a complete update. Attempted to run KDE Partition Manager and got the following:

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About to execute partitionmanager.
This command needs root privileges to be executed.
Using su...
Enter root password at prompt.
Password: 
QStandardPaths: runtime directory '/run/user/1000' is not owned by UID 0, but a directory permissions 0700 owned by UID 1000 GID 1000
QStandardPaths: runtime directory '/run/user/1000' is not owned by UID 0, but a directory permissions 0700 owned by UID 1000 GID 1000
QStandardPaths: runtime directory '/run/user/1000' is not owned by UID 0, but a directory permissions 0700 owned by UID 1000 GID 1000
kf.dbusaddons: DBus session bus not found. To circumvent this problem try the following command (with bash):
    export $(dbus-launch)
Incorrect password or command failed. Try again? (y/N)

Accepting the default, of course, closes the window.
Choosing "y" repeats the above.

The password is not incorrect.

FYI - This also happened in MX-Live. Had to manually install gparted to partition the installation drive for testing.

In event it's significant, the QSI

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-7-amd64 [6.1.20-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-7-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.2 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-23_alpha2_KDE_x64
    Libretto April 10 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME B450-PLUS v: Rev X.0x serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: American Megatrends v: 3211 date: 08/10/2021
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Marathon Mouse/Performance Plus M705 serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen+ gen: 2 level: v3 note: check
    built: 2018-21 process: GF 12nm family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 8 stepping: 2 microcode: 0x800820D
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 768 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x64 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 16 MiB desc: 2x8 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1496 high: 1550 min/max: 1550/3400 boost: disabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1550 2: 1550 3: 1380 4: 1550 5: 1378 6: 1550
    7: 1550 8: 1550 9: 1550 10: 1550 11: 1377 12: 1377 13: 1550 14: 1378 15: 1550 16: 1550
    bogomips: 108794
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT vulnerable
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling,
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Turks PRO [Radeon HD 6570/7570/8550 / R5 230] driver: radeon v: kernel
    alternate: amdgpu arch: TeraScale-2 code: Evergreen process: TSMC 32-40nm built: 2009-15 pcie:
    gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: HDMI-A-1,HDMI-A-2 empty: VGA-1 bus-ID: 08:00.0
    chip-ID: 1002:6759 class-ID: 0300 temp: 44.5 C
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: radeon
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: r600 gpu: radeon display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1016x285mm (40.00x11.22")
    s-diag: 1055mm (41.54")
  Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-0 pos: primary,left model: 22N1 serial: <filter> built: 2022
    res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102 gamma: 1.2 size: 476x268mm (18.74x10.55") diag: 546mm (21.5")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  Monitor-2: HDMI-A-2 mapped: HDMI-1 pos: right model: 22N1 serial: <filter> built: 2022
    res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102 gamma: 1.2 size: 476x268mm (18.74x10.55") diag: 546mm (21.5")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD TURKS (DRM 2.50.0 / 6.1.0-7-amd64 LLVM 15.0.6)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Turks HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6500/6600 / 6700M Series] driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 08:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aa90 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Family 17h HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0a:00.3 chip-ID: 1022:1457 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-7-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK PRIME B450M-A
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Wireless 8260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 06:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:24f3 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-6:2
    chip-ID: 8087:0a2b class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.2
    sub-v: 100 hci-v: 4.2 rev: 100
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
    service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio, telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 447.13 GiB used: 13.03 GiB (2.9%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: PNY model: CS900 480GB SSD size: 447.13 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 06B3 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 30 GiB size: 29.36 GiB (97.87%) used: 13.03 GiB (44.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
    maj-min: 8:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 500 MiB size: 499 MiB (99.80%) used: 288 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 4 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swapfile
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 28.2 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 44.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2348 libs: 1308 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude pm: rpm pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak
    pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ bullseye main
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 351 Uptime: 14m wakeups: 3 Memory: 15.53 GiB used: 2.2 GiB (14.2%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12 Client: shell wrapper
  v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

Posted: **Fri May 19, 2023 6:13 pm**

You need to remove partitionmanager-modified-launcher, we removed from the build script and actually from the repo too.

Posted: **Sat May 20, 2023 10:20 am**

Adrian wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 6:13 pm You need to remove partitionmanager-modified-launcher, we removed from the build script and actually from the repo too.

Yep - that did it.

For my future reference, did I miss that note somewhere? If I know where to look, I can look before I post!

Posted: **Sat May 20, 2023 11:41 am**

Nope, you didn't miss anything, I didn't post that change.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2023 3:46 am**

Google translate (rus, ukr -> eng).
Hello.
I've been using MX-23 KDE alpha2 for about a week now. Experience with Linux systems is not great. On my 10 year old HP 4740s ProBook laptop with 8 GB of RAM and SSD (instead of HDD) MX-23 KDE alpha2 works fast, I have not found any significant problems yet. My little observations (may be useful to someone). All of the following is my IMHO.
1. Booting MX-23 KDE alpha2 (iso file) from a multi-bootable USB stick written with Ventoy does not work. Booting from a USB flash drive written to Rufus worked fine (UEFI is enabled in BIOS, GPT in Rufus: Patition scheme, target system is UEFI). Then everything loads fine.
2. Somewhere on the Internet I met that in order to improve WiFi performance, it is better to disable LAN in the settings (if you constantly use WiFi and LAN is not needed). Disabled. Time will tell how WiFi will work.
3. More about WiFi. If WiFi does not turn on after booting the computer, indicate that this connection (WiFi) can be used by all users (“Setting up network connections” - “General configuration” - “All users can connect to this network” - “Apply”). Something like this.
4. I did not find where TimeShift is (or it is not here). There is a snapshot, but this is IMHO different.
4.1. TimeShift helps to get back to a certain point in a WORKING system because TimeShift works when the system itself is working properly. If the system does not work at all (for example, it does not boot), I do not know if TimeShift will help in this case.
4.2. It seems that Snapshot should help when the system does NOT work at all (for example, it does not boot). But I have not yet figured out how to restore the system using the created Snapshot file.
4.3. Now when I'm experimenting a bit and tweaking the system, in order to save the system image and return to a working system (if something went wrong) I make an image of the logical disk on which the MX-23 KDE alpha2 is installed, using external programs that can do image of logical disks by booting from a USB flash drive and running this program. A little long (about 10 minutes in total), but I worked a lot with such programs, I know how they work and this method helps me.
Good luck everyone.
UPD.
1. Today the sound card disappeared from the settings :-(, there is no sound. Where she went, I don't know.
2. After exiting sleep mode, the screen is green and stretched. You need to reboot to restore normal mode.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2023 4:56 am**

My few thoughts:
1. Strawberry should for sure replace Clementine. Clementine's last release was in 2016 and it is basically abandoned, Strawberry is actively maintained and gets better with every release. Strawberry is IMHO a much better and feature-rich application than Audacious. Other Qt audio player I would consider is Sayonara: https://sayonara-player.com/
2. As a firewall, have you considered having OpenSnitch (https://github.com/evilsocket/opensnitch) installed by default?
3. I always install nala as the first thing on the new system. It is great and should be there by default.
4. plasma-browser-integration is another thing I always use and I think it should be there.
5. Include SMPlayer by default instead of VLC. It is a much better player than VLC, no visual and audio artifacts. One thing to consider is changing the skin to "Black" as the default one looks very bad.
6. KRename can be there by default.
7. Double Commander (Qt) could be there by default.
8. I would have only Kate installed by default, no KWrite.
9. Perhaps Qalculate (Qt) by default?

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2023 1:54 pm**

Some other suggestions:
1. There is a CLI metadata cleaner app called mat2: https://0xacab.org/jvoisin/mat2. It has an option to integrate it with Dolphin: https://0xacab.org/jvoisin/mat2/-/tree/master/dolphin. Maybe this could be done by default in MX-23?
2. CopyQ (https://hluk.github.io/CopyQ/) as the default clipboard manager.
3. Spectacle (https://apps.kde.org/spectacle/) as the default screenshot tool. It has gained a lot of useful features in the latest release.
4. Fastfetch (https://github.com/LinusDierheimer/fastfetch) as the default fetch app.
5. maza (https://github.com/tanrax/maza-ad-blocking) installed and by configured in cron to update daily/weekly by default.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2023 2:07 pm**

I also think that TimeShift should be there by default. Maybe perhaps it could be added to the welcome screen that asks user, if he wants to set up a backup schedule with TimeShift, especially when installed on a BTRFS partition.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2023 3:47 pm**

I vote for the Timeshift too, and I would like to know what needs to be in place, to have the same backup-restore functionality as in Linux Mint, when used with BTRFS.
I have deemed BTRFS a SSD life eater (quite substantial volume written per unit of time, even in PC idle states), but, with availability of modern SSDs with huge TBW, I am reconsidering it now.

I would like to have snapshots of root, and installer to support subvolume layout required for Timeshift to work on BTRFS. Also on top of LUKS.
Is that feasible?

EDIT: just to reiterate main points of Timeshift on BTRFS - ability to change which subvolue will be mounted as root, with a mere click, no overwriting of data. If system is screwed, you can do that from live rescue environment.
And the "screwed" version will be kept, available to future usage.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2023 3:51 pm**

The installer does that now.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2023 3:58 pm**

dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 3:51 pm The installer does that now.

Do you mean, that if I choose BTRFS on root, the subvolume layout will be same as on Ubuntu, using "@", and I can switch between different snapshots with Timeshift?
(I have read, that Timeshift requires this type of subvolume layot, to support this on "fast" switching, and to use BTRFS snapshots. If I already have BTRFS root volume, I want to avoid rsync.)

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2023 4:10 pm**

andy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 3:58 pm
dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 3:51 pm The installer does that now.
Do you mean, that if I choose BTRFS on root, the subvolume layout will be same as on Ubuntu, using "@", and I can switch between different snapshots with Timeshift?
(I have read, that Timeshift requires this type of subvolume layout, to support this on "fast" switching, and to use BTRFS snapshots. If I already have BTRFS root volume, I want to avoid rsync.)

You might have to add the subvolume (right click the partition that is to be formatted btrfs), but if you make it the target for root, yes its "@". to work with timeshift.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2023 4:31 pm**

dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 4:10 pm
andy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 3:58 pm
dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 3:51 pm The installer does that now.
Do you mean, that if I choose BTRFS on root, the subvolume layout will be same as on Ubuntu, using "@", and I can switch between different snapshots with Timeshift?
(I have read, that Timeshift requires this type of subvolume layout, to support this on "fast" switching, and to use BTRFS snapshots. If I already have BTRFS root volume, I want to avoid rsync.)
You might have to add the subvolume (right click the partition that is to be formatted btrfs), but if you make it the target for root, yes its "@". to work with timeshift.

This is excellent information!
Since when is this functionality available? I have still been using classic EXT4 root + EXT4 backup "news" FS type, together with Rsync, not knowing that BTRFS stuff it is possible already.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2023 4:36 pm**

A long time. I have a video about it as well

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2023 4:45 pm**

There's this bug in Settings (Startup and Shutdown > Login Screen) in Monochrome SDDM theme that is installed by default. When I try to change/remove the login background, the buttons (Load from file, Clear image) are missing on the image preview window. It works in 5.24.7.

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