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rambo919 wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:26 pm

siamhie wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 3:24 pm @LU344928 You do have another choice.
You could try installing the sysVinit MX-25 XFCE ISO and add kde-full from the enabled tab in MX Package Installer.
You will still have access to all of the MX Tools. I've done this in the past.

The problem is that KDE is progressively dropping support for sysv simply by ignoring it exists. Already in KDE5 you have to boot into systemd for the firewall settings to actually function (it works fine with sysv you just can't change anything) and the system monitor has missing tabs unless you run systemd. I don't even know yet what else broke in KDE6 on sysv but it can't be pretty.

3.10 systemd startup

Plasma uses a systemd user instance to launch and manage all the Plasma services. This is the default startup method since Plasma 5.25, but can be disabled to use boot scripts instead with the following command (however this may stop working in a future release):

$ kwriteconfig6 --file startkderc --group General --key systemdBoot false

More details about the implementation can be read in Edmundson's blog: Plasma and the systemd startup.

autumn wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:56 pm Thanks for posting this @Markus85. That was my concern, regarding mullvad installer also.

FullScale4Me wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:22 pm

uncle mark wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 3:54 pm I get nothing.

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mark@MX-KDE:~
$ swapon --show
mark@MX-KDE:~
$ sudo swapon --show
[sudo] password for mark: 
mark@MX-KDE:~
$ swapon --show
mark@MX-KDE:~

This is mine with a swap file enabled:

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mike@dell-lt:~
$ swapon --show
NAME       TYPE SIZE USED PRIO
/swap/swap file   3G   0B   -2

swapon --show
NAME      TYPE      SIZE USED PRIO
/dev/sdb2 partition  64G   0B   -2

DukeComposed wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:10 pm

autumn wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:56 pm Thanks for posting this @Markus85. That was my concern, regarding mullvad installer also.

I'm running the sysvinit-only MX-23 respin and have had no problems running Lutris, WINE, or the Mullvad VPN software on it ... Now, so far as I can tell, I'm using the official 2025.07 package with the MX 2025.05 startup script. ... Personally, I suspect MX-25 will have a newer Mullvad package by default and, to be honest with myself, there wasn't anything wrong or defective about the functionality of 2025.05 version I'd had ... I live perhaps too comfortable a life inside the MX-only, sysvinit-only walled garden.

Adrian wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:53 pm @uncle mark I'm glad I asked because you have that partition for nothing, you probably just need to add in /etc/fstab an entry like:
UUID=.... none swap defaults 0 0

Where UUID is the uuid for you swap partition, use blkid to get the uuid.

mark@MX-KDE:~
$ swapon --show
NAME      TYPE      SIZE USED PRIO
/dev/sda2 partition 9.8G   0B   -2
mark@MX-KDE:~

AVLinux wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:29 pm Slightly OT...

I've never really understood the case for SWAP greater than 1 or 2 Gb, if your system is out of memory it's going to be a downward spiral and all kind of weird stuff is going to be going on in which case you'll reboot anyway or at least you'd want to on old mechanical HDD systems. I don't know if I've ever run out of memory even on my older computers. Maybe I'm stingy but I want that 10Gb for Data not for unlikely emergencies...lol

rambo919 wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 12:42 pm

RedGreen925 wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:44 am The devs are the normal Gnome morons who have been like that for the entire 26 years I have used GNU/Linux.

They used to be more reasonable... then with Gnome 3 they basically stuck their heads up their own.... and kept them there.

Takes all sorts I guess.