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KDE on MX-15, some observations
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:27 pm
by timkb4cq
I installed KDE-full using the mx-packageinstaller, logged out, delected KDE and logged in. Most things worked fine.
I notice KDE will no longer let you, or an installer for a Windows program in Wine, add an icon to the desktop if widgets are locked. Makes sense, but I was wondering why the icon wasn't added as it always had been before.
Audio didn't work at first - except for vlc (sound was fine in XFCE). Phonon couldn't open any of the devices.
Installing phonon4qt5 fixed that issue.
The Dolphin & Firefox launchers that automatically came up in the taskbar were very small & I couldn't find any way to change their size - but you can add the icons to the taskbar from the menu and the new ones come up normal size. Deleted the minis & moved the new ones over into their spots.
I'd say having that having just those few issues is pretty darned good when adding a new DE to a distro based on quite a different one. Well done!
I do find the XFCE setup to quite usable, but it requires different habits than the ones I've acquired using KDE since 2002 so I'm glad that adding KDE is such an easy option.
Re: KDE on MX-15, some observations
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:08 pm
by Stevo
On my laptop, the default battery monitor in KDE 4.14 is no longer able to show the charge percentage in the taskbar without hovering the mouse over it, but going to "Get New Widgets" and installing Enhanced Battery Monitor fixed that. It seemed difficult to get rid of the standard one until I dragged it to the desktop and closed it there.
MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:43 am
by mmikeinsantarosa
For those who do put either KDE full or lite on top of MX, what are your favorite tweaks?
I haven't played too much with this and would like to try tricks that work for others.
thanks - Mike
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:55 am
by Jerry3904
Moved Tim's and Stevo's post over here.
And: can I ask somebody else to add a section to the Wiki article on KDE when this thread is done?
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:59 am
by richb
I am not running KDE but did install dolphin within XFCE. I would add the root actions menu to dolphin on your KDE install.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:24 pm
by entropyfoe
to timkb4cq
Thanks for the tip on the KDE sound.
I installed the new MX-15 over my Mepis 11.92 beta with a tear in my eye.
I thought MX is so solid now and I am getting slowly up to speed on all the xfce stuff that it can replace Mepis 12. I instaledl the KDE with the MX installer in an experimental partition (sda4). All looked OK at first glance, but then the sound did not work.
Argh. I was busy installing and configuring on all my linux machines, so I thought I'll get back to this .
I will try the package phonon4qt5 that worked for you.
Thanks. I will spend time eventually to see if I can get the KDE up to Warren's level of polish.
-Jay
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:48 pm
by arjaybe
I used the MX Tools Package Installer to install KDE-standard. The installation went without a hitch. The configuration has run into two speedbumps.
Some of the tooltips are hard to read, having light text on a light background. The tooltips on the items in System Settings, for example. I managed to make the tooltips legible on taskbar items by switching to slimglow, but I'm stuck on the other.
Kmail no longer has a switch for saving the password in the accounts settings. I used to be able to do away with kwallet and use that switch, but now there doesn't seem to be a way to set the password in kmail account settings without using kwallet. It's cumbersome and annoying, so I'd like to hear of any solutions.
Incidentally, I've noticed that resting RAM usage seems to be about double that on my KDE version of MX-14. I'm wondering if that might be due to using KDE-standard instead of KDE-lite.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:51 pm
by zeeone
mmikeinsantarosa wrote:For those who do put either KDE full or lite on top of MX, what are your favorite tweaks?
I haven't played too much with this and would like to try tricks that work for others.
thanks - Mike
Apple 32 bit started with MX-15b2 XFCE, installed on 16 gig RC USB bootable, on top of MX installed KDE4 standard and MATE. One of
the first things I did to KDE4, was to load menuedit, used it to make the folders to move all of the non-KDE4 stuff to. Then
change the file formats over to Kwrite to load as the primary text editor.

Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:05 pm
by uncle mark
arjaybe wrote:Some of the tooltips are hard to read, having light text on a light background. The tooltips on the items in System Settings, for example.
I can confirm. This is one of several things on my list to address this long weekend. I installed KDE just last night and did some initial tweaking and configging, but haven't spent a lot of time with it. I'm going to take this slow and easy, as I hope to make this install of MX15-KDE my default very soon and to use it for the foreseeable future.
All you KDEers, I'm putting you on notice -- I'm gonna be a pita.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:14 pm
by zeeone
uncle mark wrote:arjaybe wrote:Some of the tooltips are hard to read, having light text on a light background. The tooltips on the items in System Settings, for example.
I can confirm. This is one of several things on my list to address this long weekend. I installed KDE just last night and did some initial tweaking and configging, but haven't spent a lot of time with it. I'm going to take this slow and easy, as I hope to make this install of MX15-KDE my default very soon and to use it for the foreseeable future.
All you KDEers, I'm putting you on notice -- I'm gonna be a pita.
Just keep reading this post.

Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:58 pm
by DBeckett
uncle mark wrote:
All you KDEers, I'm putting you on notice -- I'm gonna be a pita.
Like you weren't already?
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:29 pm
by Stevo
I installed MX 15 over my M12 KDE, saving home, so I saved all my KDE configuration. I was using a dark Kvantum theme, so I reinstalled the MX 15 kde-style-kvantum and restarted KDE. I don't have any trouble with tooltips, they are whitish text on a dark background.
The Kvantum package also installs a color configuration that goes well with it, as well as including some light themes. You pick Kvantum in the System Settings under Application Appearance/Style, but then use the Kvantum Manager app (in the menu under Settings) to chose an individual theme.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:10 pm
by uncle mark
DBeckett wrote:uncle mark wrote:
All you KDEers, I'm putting you on notice -- I'm gonna be a pita.
Like you weren't already?
I do have a reputation to maintain.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:21 pm
by Stevo
Hopefully we can get a KDE snapshot respin created with all these tweaks preapplied; I bet that would be a popular download. I'd leave the xfce4 desktop on the ISO, it does not take up much space, and it's possible to make the KDE desktop unbootable by fooling around with certain settings or if you break openGL, so xfce as a backup is very useful.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:22 pm
by joany
Around February 2014, I posted a list of things I had to do in order to get KDE up and running on MX-14. I haven't attempted this with MX-15 64-bit as of yet because things are much too busy ATM, but I'll probably get around to it sometime in January '16.
It should only take 15 minutes to get a semi-workable KDE desktop, but afterwards you should plan on devoting two whole days to get everything right (depending how fussy you are). The hardest part is tracking down and installing missing libraries needed to get the sound and display working properly. It also takes a bit of patience to tweak the desktop settings and arrange the panel to make the desktop functional and attractive.
Installing KDE was a project that was kind of fun, and it gave a sense of accomplishment when it was finished. But if you expect everything to work perfectly OTB, then you might be a bit disappointed.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:32 pm
by Stevo
I notice that root applications (such as kwrite) launched with kdesu respect the style settings for the root user (oxygen by default), but ones launched via kdesudo, used by the root actions service menu, end up with that nasty Windows 95 type interface. Let's see if that can be fixed.
i.e.: kdesudo systemsettings get this:
Update: rebuilt the root action servicemenu package to depend first on the package containing kdesu instead of kdesudo (requires the user manually create that kdesu symlink in /usr/bin),
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su -c 'ln -s /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu /usr/bin/kdesu'
and uninstalling kdesudo. Now the service menu will use kdesu by default, so no more ugly.
https://copy.com/P6JgwEIBfs9QYoVw
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:02 pm
by arjaybe
Stevo wrote:I installed MX 15 over my M12 KDE, saving home, so I saved all my KDE configuration. I was using a dark Kvantum theme, so I reinstalled the MX 15 kde-style-kvantum and restarted KDE. I don't have any trouble with tooltips, they are whitish text on a dark background.
The Kvantum package also installs a color configuration that goes well with it, as well as including some light themes. You pick Kvantum in the System Settings under Application Appearance/Style, but then use the Kvantum Manager app (in the menu under Settings) to chose an individual theme.
Kvantum works for the items in System Settings, but the non-KDE items in the tray still have pale-on-pale tooltips (eg Apt Notifier) and now the Kmenu text is dark-on-dark.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:26 pm
by Stevo
arjaybe wrote:Stevo wrote:I installed MX 15 over my M12 KDE, saving home, so I saved all my KDE configuration. I was using a dark Kvantum theme, so I reinstalled the MX 15 kde-style-kvantum and restarted KDE. I don't have any trouble with tooltips, they are whitish text on a dark background.
The Kvantum package also installs a color configuration that goes well with it, as well as including some light themes. You pick Kvantum in the System Settings under Application Appearance/Style, but then use the Kvantum Manager app (in the menu under Settings) to chose an individual theme.
Kvantum works for the items in System Settings, but the non-KDE items in the tray still have pale-on-pale tooltips (eg Apt Notifier) and now the Kmenu text is dark-on-dark.
Which Kvantum theme and which KDE color scheme are you using? I'm using the stock Kvantum dark grey and Kvantum color scheme, and get a white text on black tooltip for apt-notifier. I've inherited the setup from M12, though...but that means there is some darn way to get it working.
I've also done this per the Debian wiki:
The appearance of GTK-applications in Plasma
To get gtk-applications look native in Plasma you need install these packages and configure appearance of them through System Settings > Application appearance.
kde-config-gtk-style KDE configuration module for GTK+ 2/3.x style selection
gtk2-engines-oxygen Oxygen widget theme for GTK2+-based applications
gtk3-engines-oxygen Oxygen widget theme for GTK3+-based applications
the gtk2-engines-qtcurve might work for gtk+2 apps...
I think this might mess with colors in some applications if you switch to the xfce4 desktop, though.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:08 pm
by uncle mark
I've currently got two appearance issues. My install is 64 bit with KDE standard added along with a bunch of programs, but I've not done anything of any consequence as far as theming or UI mods. (I'm used to pretty much using MEPIS as Warren had it.)
One is the same thing arjaybe is talking about. I'm using the Oxygen desktop theme. The tooltips in System Settings are white text on a very light beige background. Not really readable in a practical sense.
The other is an oddity in Dolphin. I use double click. When I highlight a file or folder (single click) and hover my pointer over it, it disappears. Moving my mouse pointer off of it and it's there, highlighted. Very disconcerting.
Suggestions appreciated. Dumb "how do I do that?" or "where do I find that?" responses guaranteed to follow.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:17 pm
by Stevo
uncle mark wrote:I've currently got two appearance issues. My install is 64 bit with KDE standard added along with a bunch of programs, but I've not done anything of any consequence as far as theming or UI mods. (I'm used to pretty much using MEPIS as Warren had it.)
One is the same thing arjaybe is talking about. I'm using the Oxygen desktop theme. The tooltips in System Settings are white text on a very light beige background. Not really readable in a practical sense.
The other is an oddity in Dolphin. I use double click. When I highlight a file or folder (single click) and hover my pointer over it, it disappears. Moving my mouse pointer off of it and it's there, highlighted. Very disconcerting.
Suggestions appreciated. Dumb "how do I do that?" or "where do I find that?" responses guaranteed to follow.
I wonder if that has anything to do with file tooltips being disabled by default in Dolphin. I also installed baloo and baloo-utils, which are supposed to be the replacement for the widely reviled nepomuk. The checkbox to enable tooltips in Dolphin's Settings/General.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:17 pm
by timkb4cq
For the tool tips go to
System Settings -> Application Appearance -> Colors -> Colors (tab) -> Tooltip Text , click on the current color & select a new one from the colormap. I also changed the color of Selection Text because selecting an item in Dolphin, then hovering on it made it disappear. Not a major issue but annoying.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:28 pm
by arjaybe
Stevo wrote:arjaybe wrote:Stevo wrote:I installed MX 15 over my M12 KDE, saving home, so I saved all my KDE configuration. I was using a dark Kvantum theme, so I reinstalled the MX 15 kde-style-kvantum and restarted KDE. I don't have any trouble with tooltips, they are whitish text on a dark background.
The Kvantum package also installs a color configuration that goes well with it, as well as including some light themes. You pick Kvantum in the System Settings under Application Appearance/Style, but then use the Kvantum Manager app (in the menu under Settings) to chose an individual theme.
Kvantum works for the items in System Settings, but the non-KDE items in the tray still have pale-on-pale tooltips (eg Apt Notifier) and now the Kmenu text is dark-on-dark.
Which Kvantum theme and which KDE color scheme are you using? I'm using the stock Kvantum dark grey and Kvantum color scheme, and get a white text on black tooltip for apt-notifier. I've inherited the setup from M12, though...but that means there is some darn way to get it working.
I've also done this per the Debian wiki:
The appearance of GTK-applications in Plasma
To get gtk-applications look native in Plasma you need install these packages and configure appearance of them through System Settings > Application appearance.
kde-config-gtk-style KDE configuration module for GTK+ 2/3.x style selection
gtk2-engines-oxygen Oxygen widget theme for GTK2+-based applications
gtk3-engines-oxygen Oxygen widget theme for GTK3+-based applications
the gtk2-engines-qtcurve might work for gtk+2 apps...
I think this might mess with colors in some applications if you switch to the xfce4 desktop, though.
I used stock Kvantum and default KDE color scheme. I've installed those three packages and I'll see what they do.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:30 pm
by Stevo
timkb4cq wrote:For the tool tips go to
System Settings -> Application Appearance -> Colors -> Colors (tab) -> Tooltip Text , click on the current color & select a new one from the colormap. I also changed the color of Selection Text because selecting an item in Dolphin, then hovering on it made it disappear. Not a major issue but annoying.
Ya beat me to that!
I booted to a unsullied MX 15 KDE partition to see that problem. I also noticed that systemsettings was using the fugly win9X style, even though it said it was using oxygen. Changing the style and then back to oxygen got the real style to work--GTK apps still look bad by default, and will no doubt need that fix mentioned above.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:31 pm
by arjaybe
uncle mark wrote:I've currently got two appearance issues. My install is 64 bit with KDE standard added along with a bunch of programs, but I've not done anything of any consequence as far as theming or UI mods. (I'm used to pretty much using MEPIS as Warren had it.)
One is the same thing arjaybe is talking about. I'm using the Oxygen desktop theme. The tooltips in System Settings are white text on a very light beige background. Not really readable in a practical sense.
The other is an oddity in Dolphin. I use double click. When I highlight a file or folder (single click) and hover my pointer over it, it disappears. Moving my mouse pointer off of it and it's there, highlighted. Very disconcerting.
Suggestions appreciated. Dumb "how do I do that?" or "where do I find that?" responses guaranteed to follow.
I've seen that "disappearing" thing too. I'm single click though.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:35 pm
by uncle mark
timkb4cq wrote:For the tool tips go to
System Settings -> Application Appearance -> Colors -> Colors (tab) -> Tooltip Text , click on the current color & select a new one from the colormap. I also changed the color of Selection Text because selecting an item in Dolphin, then hovering on it made it disappear. Not a major issue but annoying.
Bingo. You da man.
Now one more appearance niggle. The top of a window, that has the X and min/max buttons on the right, it has no coloring to indicate focus. I'm embarrassed to admit I'm not sure what that's even called or where to change that.
Edit: didn't mention, but I have turned off desktop effects, if it matters. Don't like the blue glow and all the other silliness.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:38 pm
by Stevo
arjaybe wrote:
I used stock Kvantum and default KDE color scheme. I've installed those three packages and I'll see what they do.
You may have to close systemsettings, then reopen it and change something like the font in the new GTK module. I also found that the tooltip background had become dark along with the text, so changed that in the color settings (see Tim's post above) to a light shade. Now all tooltips are readable, including apt-notifier.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:09 pm
by uncle mark
uncle mark wrote:Now one more appearance niggle. The top of a window, that has the X and min/max buttons on the right, it has no coloring to indicate focus. I'm embarrassed to admit I'm not sure what that's even called or where to change that.
Okay, that's taken care of. Changed color of Window Background.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:25 pm
by zeeone
Use the Oxygen theme and it does not mess with Xfce, except maybe the KDE4 applications in Xfce. Colors changes can be made at
system Settings> Application Settings> Colors and have fun. Extra Colors can be downloaded using the repo. Yeah, KDE4 is a
resource hog, but what a hog and what you can do with it. 4.14.2 version is old however, it is the newest Debian has to offer
for stable, jf you want to be the first one on the block to have it there is Plasma 5 KDE.

Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:27 pm
by uncle mark
This is falling together nicely. Did all the fonts tweaks in the docs (thanks Joany) and got my appearance niggles lined out.
Sound and video in my browser worked OOtB without any intervention required. I always go here to test that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECmXi8dv9s
One more thing I'd like to figure out and I'll call it an evening...
In Dolphin, on right click, I don't have Copy To or Move To options. (I do have that in Root Actions, having added the root-actions-servicemenu earlier).
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:33 pm
by Stevo
uncle mark wrote:timkb4cq wrote:For the tool tips go to
System Settings -> Application Appearance -> Colors -> Colors (tab) -> Tooltip Text , click on the current color & select a new one from the colormap. I also changed the color of Selection Text because selecting an item in Dolphin, then hovering on it made it disappear. Not a major issue but annoying.
Bingo. You da man.
Now one more appearance niggle. The top of a window, that has the X and min/max buttons on the right, it has no coloring to indicate focus. I'm embarrassed to admit I'm not sure what that's even called or where to change that.
Edit: didn't mention, but I have turned off desktop effects, if it matters. Don't like the blue glow and all the other silliness.
The blue glow and the undetectable window decoration border is what the Oxygen style designers wanted. I think MEPIS used the
kwin-style-crystal window decoration by default; that has to be installed and selected on MX 15 if that's what we're looking for.
I could have the kde-servicemenu-rootactions package create that link to kdesu automatically, and have it forget about kdesudo altogether, if we are thinking about an unofficial preconfigured KDE MX 15 that tries to reproduce the best of MEPIS. The Qt 5 MX custom apps work fine in KDE for me--anybody encounter any problems with those?
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:38 pm
by Stevo
uncle mark wrote:This is falling together nicely. Did all the fonts tweaks in the docs (thanks Joany) and got my appearance niggles lined out.
Sound and video in my browser worked OOtB without any intervention required. I always go here to test that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECmXi8dv9s
One more thing I'd like to figure out and I'll call it an evening...
In Dolphin, on right click, I don't have Copy To or Move To options. (I do have that in Root Actions, having added the root-actions-servicemenu earlier).
Let's see if I can beat Tim this time, you have to check that as enabled in Dolphin's Settings/Dolphin Preferences/Services. Don't ask me why it's off by default.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:47 pm
by uncle mark
Stevo wrote:uncle mark wrote:This is falling together nicely. Did all the fonts tweaks in the docs (thanks Joany) and got my appearance niggles lined out.
Sound and video in my browser worked OOtB without any intervention required. I always go here to test that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECmXi8dv9s
One more thing I'd like to figure out and I'll call it an evening...
In Dolphin, on right click, I don't have Copy To or Move To options. (I do have that in Root Actions, having added the root-actions-servicemenu earlier).
Let's see if I can beat Tim this time, you have to check that as enabled in Dolphin's Settings/Dolphin Preferences/Services. Don't ask me why it's off by default.
That did it. You da man too. Now that you pointed that out, it seemed familiar. I suspect I've been there before, but my CRS is getting worse the older I get.
In the meantime, I've managed to really screw up the window backgrounds and text colors to the point where it had everything messed up and unreadable. Just renamed .kde and will be starting over with my tweaks. Not a big deal. But I'm going to give this a rest and root for Sparty.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:20 pm
by Stevo
Once you get it set up the way you like, you can save the colors and maybe some other settings as a custom theme.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:38 pm
by uncle mark
Stevo wrote:Once you get it set up the way you like, you can save the colors and maybe some other settings as a custom theme.
Back in my old comfortable M11 for now. But I did get MX15 straightened up pretty well. One thing I noticed was that the light text in tooltips problem that arjaybe first brought up was NOT evident until after I did the antialiasing and DPI adjustments from Joany's MX14 recommendations. Just a data point.
I also got an audio crash and lost sound in YouTube. That's when I bailed on the MX-15 for the evening. <sigh>
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:17 pm
by Stevo
We're working on a fix for the pulseaudio crashes. I've haven't had one myself since upgrading to pulseaudio 7.1 (jessie-backports or the test repo).
You can turn on the KDE login and logout sounds in the SystemSettings/System Notification Configuration/Manage Notifications/KDE Workspace tab, editing the Logout and Login entries. You're also able to preview the sound file in there--maybe I'll set that to the xfce4 MX 15 login sound file.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:47 am
by zeeone
I know, this is for MX-14.4 32 bit for KDE4.8 but every little bit helps to get you going, KDE4 can be overwhelming.
http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 71#p360971
http://www.debian.org/
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:17 pm
by arjaybe
Got the tooltips sorted. Set the colors to white on black. Didn't work before - maybe adding those GTK packages helped. I'm using Oxygen style and default colors.
Highlighted files still disappearing on mouseover. And preview never shows - just spinning balls.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:21 pm
by Stevo
If installed with a metapackage such as kde-standard in the package installer, KDE will be seen as automatically removable if you later uninstall some package (such as Juk or Kmail) that the metapackage pulled in (i.e., uninstalling juk in Synaptic will also remove the kde-standard metapackage)
To unmark KDE as automatically installed, run
or
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su -c 'aptitude unmarkauto '~skde''
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:28 am
by Stevo
I've made a combo xfce4-KDE desktop snapshot iso. It came out to be around 1.2 GB. The Live ISO boots straight to the xfce4 desktop as usual, but then you can log out and then log back into KDE. Everything comes up with the standard Oxygen theming, colors, and icons, but the tooltips come up with white text on a dark background, and I did install a few more styles and window decorations, along with K3b. I also removed Juk and Kmail.
The only fly in the ointment seems to be the clock in the panel is white text on a white background, but that's simple to fix with a dark theme or by adjusting the color of the clock's text.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:55 pm
by Siles
Stevo
Code "sudo aptitude unmarkauto '~skde'" or code "su -c 'aptitude unmarkauto '~skde''does not work for me. apt-get purgre Juk wants to remove kde-standart also.
Any suggestions?
Siles
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:43 pm
by Stevo
Siles wrote:Stevo
Code "sudo aptitude unmarkauto '~skde'" or code "su -c 'aptitude unmarkauto '~skde''does not work for me. apt-get purgre Juk wants to remove kde-standart also.
Any suggestions?
Siles
That is OK, the "kde-standard" metapackage can safely be removed along with Juk. What the unmarkauto command should do is keep the rest of KDE from being seen as autoremovable--so you should not see a huge lump of packages when you run:
when you would have seen a big group after removing kde-standard and not running the unmarkauto command.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:39 pm
by Siles
OK did that thanks.
Siles
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:17 pm
by Stevo
Here's a 1.2 GB snapshot with KDE added to xfce4.
Edit: uploaded version without broken software index.
https://copy.com/1juoMyD2QWelPWRn (1.2 GB)
md5sum is 203f3db0c0abcf3c64182276f10569d5
It seems you should manually reload Synaptic in the Live Session before the install to avoid possible APT problems, though I think that apt-notifier will also do that automatically if you have a Net connection and you run the Live session long enough.
I think I got most of the tweaks built into it.
The Live ISO boots by default to xfce4, you have to log out and choose KDE Plasma as the desktop with the little chooser widget in the upper right-hand corner of the lightdm greeter screen.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:07 pm
by lucky9
Have you got an MD5sum for that .iso?
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:57 pm
by DBeckett
Until Stevo sees this, I get:
815f735138be699b28c80598107a1094
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:01 pm
by Eadwine Rose
DBeckett wrote:Until Stevo sees this, I get:
815f735138be699b28c80598107a1094
Confirmed.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:17 pm
by lucky9
That's what I got, but that's for the downloaded file. Not the file that he made available. That's the reason that an MD5sum is given on the server. (or separately in a post)
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:40 pm
by Stevo
lucky9 wrote:That's what I got, but that's for the downloaded file. Not the file that he made available. That's the reason that an MD5sum is given on the server. (or separately in a post)
That's the correct value.
Note that the installer icon is on the xfce4 desktop, but mx-installer can be run in the KDE desktop also via the menu or manual launch. This is a unofficial snapshot; I'm sure there are a few appearance problems in there still.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:40 pm
by KernSpy
Stevo wrote: That's the correct value.
Note that the installer icon is on the xfce4 desktop, but mx-installer can be run in the KDE desktop also via the menu or manual launch. This is a unofficial snapshot; I'm sure there are a few appearance problems in there still.
Going to give this a spin. Thank You .. Stevo
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:00 pm
by lucky9
I'll be booting it this evening also. Thanks Stevo.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:52 pm
by Jerry3904
Stevo wrote:Here's a 1.2 GB snapshot with KDE added to xfce4.
https://copy.com/ernrkujOYWhWWJTm
Edit: md5sum is 815f735138be699b28c80598107a1094
I think I got most of the tweaks built into it.
The Live ISO boots by default to xfce4, you have to log out and choose KDE Plasma as the desktop with the little chooser widget in the upper right-hand corner.
I have put this into the new draft "Remastered versions"
in the Wiki. What kind of support do you want me to mark it with?
--Full (usually only MX official release)
--Developer/Maintainer
--Conditional (depends on nature of request)
--None
Thanks.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:19 pm
by KernSpy
I'm an XFCE person, so I was a little lost in KDE. It worked fine though. Nice job Stevo. Booted up logged out / logged in and changed to KDE. Looked around to see what kde was like, run a few programs, hooked up via wifi, posted to the forum, run the file manager & terminal, edited & posted a small screenshot to the forum.
Kern...
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:53 pm
by Stevo
Jerry3904 wrote:Stevo wrote:Here's a 1.2 GB snapshot with KDE added to xfce4.
https://copy.com/ernrkujOYWhWWJTm
Edit: md5sum is 815f735138be699b28c80598107a1094
I think I got most of the tweaks built into it.
The Live ISO boots by default to xfce4, you have to log out and choose KDE Plasma as the desktop with the little chooser widget in the upper right-hand corner.
I have put this into the new draft "Remastered versions"
in the Wiki. What kind of support do you want me to mark it with?
--Full (usually only MX official release)
--Developer/Maintainer
--Conditional (depends on nature of request)
--None
Thanks.
Ummmm...make it conditional. I still have the virtual machine set up I created it with, so I'm open to suggestions for improvements.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:53 am
by lucky9
Agreed. There will still be those who will 'roll their own'.
New KDE-added snapshot
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:16 pm
by Stevo
This one doesn't have a broken gdebi
https://copy.com/1juoMyD2QWelPWRn (1.2 GB)
md5sum is 203f3db0c0abcf3c64182276f10569d5
I made an xdelta, but it came out at nearly 800 MB, so forget that.
I made the download a bit bigger by adding Digikam and Shofoto. I also minimized the use of KDE metapackages.
I'm getting rid of the first version, so will edit my first post, too.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:11 am
by tascoast
I took my MX-15 32-bit install for a run with a KDE harness and my first thought was to check root size. VIa MX Package Manager I think another 1GB on the root partition once installed, along with a few additional applications such as Konqueror that are familiar from using M11. I set the application menu to classic view, which seems to suit me.
I suppose some FAQs are possible down the track so I will try and anticipate some here....
How much additional HDD space will a standard KDE use?
Will KDE be more demanding of my CPU than an xfce desktop?
Can I remove any unwanted KDE applications without breaking things?
Will having KDE and xfce installed reduce xfce performance when in an xfce session?
What can a KDE session offer that an xfce session cannot, in practical terms (aside from the additional applications it incorporates)?
I have grown to like xfce personally so unsure of the advantages of KDE, although I used M11 for some time. As such a brief comment would suffice for me here.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:54 am
by i_ri
hello timkb4cq and tascoast and kdEveryone
brief? opinion. u. kde needs more resources or time. space is plentiful. didn't seem to alter xfce session. kde will add items to the customised xfce menu. fabulous to have Two each of familiar tools. difficulty is choosing what one while all presented. maybe you good experience with kdesu or kdm preferences. having trialed the future of kde5+ it is felt that the machines and the users will have a brighter future with XFCE. KDE led us to MX-15.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:18 am
by Gaer Boy
@tascoast - I use a few KDE applications (now down to KMyMoney & Digikam) so I installed KDE on early versions of MX-14. Spending a little time with xfce, I found that I missed very little (the dual-pane view in Dolphin is the only one now) so after a few months I no longer added KDE. My two KDE apps bring in about 150 packages. I'm now a convert to xfce.
Phil
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:35 am
by Utopia
This one doesn't have a broken gdebi
Still have problems with synaptic and hash sum mismatch. Sometimes the information is shown and sometimes synaptic crashes. This is in virtualbox and M11.
Anyone else seen this?
Henry
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:40 am
by i_ri
so is it naughty of us/convrt to here say that the favorite kde tweak is the xfce desktop button? the tweak is getting everything from kde onto the xfce menu? xfce window buttons function like kde and everything! filemenu defaults are quicker. . specialty of the house is xfce.
The kde4 on mx-15 is the best you've ever seen Your kde. really.great.
Your kde never looked better. right?
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:33 am
by Utopia
apt-get is doing the same. Crashing and closing down the virtualbox or shows hash sum mismatch.
Henry
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:54 am
by lucky9
In a normal HDD installation (MX-15 with KDE) I've had no APT/Synaptic problems. After running for a week at a time with each DE I find that I just know my way around KDE a little better so I'm running it for the most part.
However I've found that XFCE is very usable and currently my daughter and her kids are using 14.4 as their OS. They are using an old Intel Pentium IV-1600GHz with 1 GB RAM. 120 and a 20 GB PATA HDDs. SoundBlaster Audigy. AMD 8500 LE AGP x2 video card. 19" 1280x1024 LCD. It's very responsive and replaced a very old iMac that could not be upgraded to a newer OS and so would not run Flash any longer. Flash=games=kids having something to do online as the oldest is 7.
I expect to install MX-15_64 on the 20 GB HDD shortly.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:57 am
by Jerry3904
Good point about the HDD being different from VB--we've seen that before.
And nice to hear about the kids...
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:03 am
by Utopia
It could be that the M11 virtualbox is getting a little bit old. Must upgrade my work OS soon, that's why I'm testing.
Henry
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:21 pm
by Utopia
If anyone runs into the hash sum mismatch problem, I was able to fix it by updating the package lists live first. Before installing.
Don't know if it was pure luck. Worth a try.
Henry
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:22 pm
by Stevo
Utopia wrote:If anyone runs into the hash sum mismatch problem, I was able to fix it by updating the package lists live first. Before installing.
Don't know if it was pure luck. Worth a try.
Henry
Thanks for that tip.
Get search functions in Dolphin working
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:36 am
by richb
The Dolphin side panel functions to find images, documents, etc, and Recently accessed files, did not initially work in KDE installed with MX Package installer. By adding baloo these became functional both on KDE and XFCE in Dolphin.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:40 am
by Utopia
Has anyone been able to get kdesu working in a terminal?
Another thing I'm working on is removing a very stubborn ghost floppy. Have removed the floppy group (which is possible in Jessie). Nothing in systemsettings to disable this 0 byte device.
Henry
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:42 am
by richb
Utopia wrote:Has anyone been able to get kdesu working in a terminal?
.........
Henry
Strange as it does work from Alt-F2, but not in konsole.
EDIT: this fixes it
Code: Select all
sudo ln -s /usr/lib64/kde4/libexec/kdesu /usr/bin/kdesu
EDIT 2: Sorry no it does not. I was using kdesudo.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:57 am
by Utopia
Very strange. It's a known bug, but how to fix it for this version of kde? Can find it for later or earlier versions.
Henry
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:03 pm
by richb
Utopia wrote:Very strange. It's a known bug, but how to fix it for this version of kde? Can find it for later or earlier versions.
Henry
In any case gksu works.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:18 pm
by Utopia
In any case gksu works
Thanks, didn't think of it. Lots of other things to tweak. Xfce feels very polished in comparison.
Henry
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:31 pm
by richb
Utopia wrote:In any case gksu works
Thanks, didn't think of it. Lots of other things to tweak. Xfce feels very polished in comparison.
Henry
MX-15 and XFCE are very polished. But do not judge KDE by this install. A full native install, say Mint is very nice and I believe has less issues. It uses kde 4.14 also. I used Kubuntu for a while, but do not like KDE 5 in the latest release. I find MX-15 and XFCE my choice right now.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:41 pm
by Utopia
It will be perfect when I have worked on it. There is about a thousand lines of xsession errors concerning mime-types and similar to get rid of. Not very difficult as they are easy to Google.
That's what I get for wanting a rather large kde installation (500 packages) instead of a small one.
Henry
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:49 pm
by richb
Utopia wrote:It will be perfect when I have worked on it. There is about a thousand lines of xsession errors concerning mime-types and similar to get rid of. Not very difficult as they are easy to Google.
That's what I get for wanting a rather large kde installation (500 packages) instead of a small one.
Henry
When you get it "perfect" you may want to offer your own respin.
To offer a probable unpopular opinion; Right now I am of the opinion if you want KDE as your DE of choice, install an OS that offers it by default.
1. It will be fully supported.
2. Most of the niggles we are finding will not exist.
And I am not trying to drive people away from MX-15. Most current users, I believe, are happy with XFCE. (Anecdotal opinion).
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:01 pm
by Utopia
The thing is, I'm trying to exactly recreate the kde I had in M11. It was easy in MX-14 but kde has changed a little since.
This is something I like to do, so I'm not complaining.
Henry
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:05 pm
by arjaybe
I just did a re-install saving home to start fresh. This time I didn't install KDE, just a few apps and the files that came with them. I'm finding that I can work with this just fine.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:13 pm
by richb
Utopia wrote:The thing is, I'm trying to exactly recreate the kde I had in M11. It was easy in MX-14 but kde has changed a little since.
This is something I like to do, so I'm not complaining.
Henry
I know and agree it is fun chasing down issues and rewarding when they are crushed. I did not mean to discourage anyone from installing KDE in MX-15. It is very workable as is, and as these issues are found and solved by users it will become better.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:30 pm
by entropyfoe
I also like KDE, but ran into the sound problems, so scaled back my efforts.
This makes me respect the high quality betas and releases that Warren used to make.
I am getting used to xfce as I use it more and tweak it to my liking. (k3b for example)
So I will hold off for now.
As I wrote in another thread saying I installed over Mepis 11.92 with MX-15, and asked what features am I missing?
Not much.
I agree with richb, I am happy with MX-15 and xfce for now. The MX-15 xfce is polished and solid.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:41 pm
by Utopia
One of the hidden reasons for tweaking kde is that my wife wants to use M11 forever. She says that any development is a step backwards because you must relearn everything.
Henry
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:45 pm
by richb
Utopia wrote:One of the hidden reasons for tweaking kde is that my wife wants to use M11 forever. She says that any development is a step backwards because you must relearn everything.
Henry
Marriage security.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:33 pm
by DBeckett
Utopia wrote:One of the hidden reasons for tweaking kde is that my wife wants to use M11 forever. She says that any development is a step backwards because you must relearn everything.
Henry
There's something to be said for that outlook. With the march of OS "progress" come new and useful methods and tweaks, but also some long-ago-learned ones fall by the wayside. It's a choice that must be made by each user.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:42 pm
by Stevo
Has anyone with sound problems tried the new pulseaudio to see if that fixes it?
I just found that the Okular in Jessie can't open CBR files, because it can't use the unrar in Jessie. It's patched in upstream Okular, so I'm backporting that to see how that works.
Edit: The new Okular works as it should.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:44 pm
by dolphin_oracle
Stevo wrote:Has anyone with sound problems tried the new pulseaudio to see if that fixes it?
I just found that the Okular in Jessie can't open CBR files, because it can't use the unrar in Jessie. It's patched in upstream Okular, so I'm backporting that to see how that works.
i didn't try the new pulseaudio, but see the kde audio thread for some comments about the audio.
http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 00#p378400
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:33 pm
by arjaybe
Stevo wrote:Has anyone with sound problems tried the new pulseaudio to see if that fixes it?
I just found that the Okular in Jessie can't open CBR files, because it can't use the unrar in Jessie. It's patched in upstream Okular, so I'm backporting that to see how that works.
Edit: The new Okular works as it should.
I've just upgraded pulseaudio. Now I'll log out/in and see what happens.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:34 pm
by uncle mark
richb wrote:To offer a probable unpopular opinion; Right now I am of the opinion if you want KDE as your DE of choice, install an OS that offers it by default.
1. It will be fully supported.
2. Most of the niggles we are finding will not exist.
And I am not trying to drive people away from MX-15. Most current users, I believe, are happy with XFCE. (Anecdotal opinion).
If I can't get MX/KDE lined out, I'll give MX/Xfce a fair shot, but Mint KDE on the new Ub LTS is not far off.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:58 pm
by asqwerth
I am using Kanotix KDE for my KDE Debian distro - another old reliable name about Mepis's vintage.
They don't have an MX-tools equivalent but everything works fine and the repos do have updated kernels and various applications. And Kano's scripts help to optimise graphics performance. Even on my previous low-RAM, weak graphics card PC, I never had problems running Kanotix KDE complete with desktop effects. So many other KDE distros ground to a halt on that machine.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:00 pm
by richb
Stevo wrote:Has anyone with sound problems tried the new pulseaudio to see if that fixes it?
I just found that the Okular in Jessie can't open CBR files, because it can't use the unrar in Jessie. It's patched in upstream Okular, so I'm backporting that to see how that works.
Edit: The new Okular works as it should.
Any reason not to move this into main? I have no CBR files to try but works fine on normal pdfs.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:49 pm
by timkb4cq
Nope. Was just waiting for a few people to test it out.
Moving now.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:06 pm
by Stevo
I have found that the line added to your ~/.config/Trolltech.conf file by the same file in /etc/skel,
style=GTK+
Seems to cause appearance issues when changing styles in KDE (i.e. the old ugly Windows 95-like theme we knew and loved from MX 14.0). Changing GTK+ to Oxygen, then using systemsettings to manage the KDE appearance, seems to fix the issues.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:32 pm
by Stevo
Another tweak if you want to launch something like Gparted from the KDE menu that uses pkexec for root access, you'll need to have polkit-kde-1 installed.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 1:04 pm
by joejac
Hello to all,
I am very pleased with KDE MX Linux. I noticed that Dolphin File Manager do not update the contents of a directory when copying or deleting a file or other sub-directory, I have to click Reload or (F5), Thunar does this automatically. I do not know if it it is my fault and I missed some Dolphin initial configuration, because I come from Mint Cinnamon and I used Nemo (very simple and friendly by the way). I love Linux because we get good options.
Any way, I was able to run Xara Photo & Graphics Designer 2013 in Wine in KDE, it is a bonus to me, I was not expecting it to run, it has some display problems and it is very slow to load at the start up, but I can do my basic stuff, like Magic Clone, etc. But I have noticed that in XFCE it is very difficult to load Xara.
One thing that it is extremely difficult is to assign a program to Favorites in the KDE menu, I right clic and clicked in the Add to Favorites button(+), but of 15 attempts I succeeded only one time.
I do not have problems with the program icons in the task bar in KDE, I have to look how to put the task bar vertical left. The widgets are very nice I have my own task bar with my main programs.
So very nice work done with KDE desktop, I love it.
Regards
joejac
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 1:30 pm
by Jerry3904
Just a reminder to everyone that "KDE MX Linux" is not an official release of MX Linux, and is therefore not officially supported.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 2:59 pm
by joejac
Ok understood, please forgive me I am MX newbie, and yes someone told me this in a recent post, sorry, but how good it is this "KDE not officially supported MX".
Jerry3904 wrote:Just a reminder to everyone that "KDE MX Linux" is not an official release of MX Linux, and is therefore not officially supported.
As a suggestion, why don't make a
survey if KDE is liked in the MX community?
Best regards
joejac
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 3:12 pm
by Jerry3904
As a suggestion, why don't make a survey if KDE is liked in the MX community?
What would be the point? There are lots of good KDE distros out there, and it is not what we do--see the mission description on the Home pages for MX Linux and antiX, to whose family it belongs.
On top of that, we don't have the devs to develop and maintain a KDE version alongside a Xfce version. Individuals are free of course to do what they want with MX Linux for their own use, but personal remasters are not part of the distro MX Linux. If enough people are interested in developing and supporting KDE on a MX Linux base, then they could fork it and establish a separate path.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 3:31 pm
by joejac
Thanks for the clarification Jerry3904, I got it. I was looking for a Debian distro without systemd and I have read good things about MX somewhere. I understand now MX it is only an XFCE distro. Unfortunately the "good KDE distros" have systemd as far as I know, KDE Mint has systemd.
Best regards
joejac
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 4:03 pm
by v3g4n
joejac wrote:I noticed that Dolphin File Manager do not update the contents of a directory when copying or deleting a file or other sub-directory, I have to click Reload or (F5), Thunar does this automatically.
Hmm, not sure what's going on there, but it's working as expected here.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 4:58 pm
by Stevo
The dolphin update bug was a thorn in my side all the way up to Debian Jessie's version, which is in the KDE MX 15 remaster, but the Jessie version doesn't have the bug for me. I still see it all the time in the older MEPIS virtual machines I use.
Joejac, does the live ISO show that bug?
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 5:11 pm
by joejac
I have to check Stevo, give some time, I hope not having rewrote the DVD.
Thanks and regards.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 1:13 am
by lucky9
The respin that Stevo makes available is pretty good. Some of us like to roll our own version. But Stevo has given directions as to what he has tried and reports etc. A sub-forum is set aside for unofficial support. Check manual and/or wiki for ideas. Plus don't forget the sub-forum
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 2:15 am
by GregH
joejac wrote:Thanks for the clarification Jerry3904, I got it. I was looking for a Debian distro without systemd and I have read good things about MX somewhere. I understand now MX it is only an XFCE distro. Unfortunately the "good KDE distros" have systemd as far as I know, KDE Mint has systemd.
Likewise, after some research I just yesterday found MX as a Debian-based distro without systemd and KDE support for my new laptop.
Looks like I was mistaken. Maybe I have to stick with Mint.
I have to say, I really do like MX-15 so far, once I figured out how to switch it into KDE.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 3:11 am
by chippy52
[quote="I have to say, I really do like MX-15 so far, once I figured out how to switch it into KDE.[/quote]
When you reach the logon screen you will see 2 icons in the top right corner. Click on the left icon & switch to KDE.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 2:20 pm
by lucky9
The support is unofficial but there are several who are happy to answer queries in the 3 sub-forums dedicated to modified MX. I doubt you'll have a problem but if you do then just post in the sub-forum that concerns your situation. That would be KDE MX15.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 2:35 pm
by richb
deleted posted in wrong forum
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 2:45 pm
by lucky9
I agree. It simply isn't necessary. There is plenty of information for those interested. And for those not very sure they want to go to the trouble, they have the default DE which is really superb. I certainly wouldn't think that the current situation should be changed. It just works.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 5:36 pm
by GregH
As an experiment, I installed the April snapshot without KDE into a VM. Then I installed KDE through synaptic, and it worked. Of course it's lacking the customizations that were done to produce the "MX KDE" release, but it's usable and that's enough to reassure me I'll be able to use MX and KDE together, even if Stevo decides to move on to other things.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 5:41 pm
by richb
GregH wrote:As an experiment, I installed the April snapshot without KDE into a VM. Then I installed KDE through synaptic, and it worked. Of course it's lacking the customizations that were done to produce the "MX KDE" release, but it's usable and that's enough to reassure me I'll be able to use MX and KDE together, even if Stevo decides to move on to other things.
I did that as well some time ago and have customized to my preferences. Seldom use it however.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 12:39 pm
by joejac
GregH wrote:joejac wrote:Thanks for the clarification Jerry3904, I got it. I was looking for a Debian distro without systemd and I have read good things about MX somewhere. I understand now MX it is only an XFCE distro. Unfortunately the "good KDE distros" have systemd as far as I know, KDE Mint has systemd.
Likewise, after some research I just yesterday found MX as a Debian-based distro without systemd and KDE support for my new laptop.
Looks like I was mistaken. Maybe I have to stick with Mint.
I have to say, I really do like MX-15 so far, once I figured out how to switch it into KDE.
Hello
GregH, I was using Linux Mint Debian LMD1 for 2 years, and I was happy, some problems with PDF printing, but in 2 years I had to decide to go to LMD2 with the problem of systemd for LMD3, so I installed KDE "unofficial not supported" MX 15 and I got
excellent and fast help from the MX community, now I can print anything in my old HP printer with this MX 15 I use the KDE, I am happy, I would suggest you to try MX 15, installation is fast and it has many nice applications pre-installed. It even recognized at first shoot my emergency broadband mobile line, I did not have to configure anything. I even work with some Windows programs via Wine.
Best regards
joejac
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 9:57 pm
by Stevo
Oh, I didn't see that you got the printer working. Did you have to downgrade hplip from 3.16.3, or did you get that version working? Whether I downgrade that for the next KDE snapshot depends on some information.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 1:36 pm
by joejac
Stevo wrote:Oh, I didn't see that you got the printer working. Did you have to downgrade hplip from 3.16.3, or did you get that version working? Whether I downgrade that for the next KDE snapshot depends on some information.
Hello Stevo, sorry for my delay in responding your question, too many difficulties to resolve.
Please see the complete post to have the full picture:
http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 23&t=39937
But in this post I describe the "temporal" solution that I am using. I suspect it is a problem with the PHLIP Deskject 845-C printer driver and also with the CUPS driver, I will suggest that do not downgrade the HPLIP of your wonderful KDE.
http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 10#p386137
When the trial period of
turboprint ends I will check something and I will inform you.
Best regards
joejac
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 4:15 pm
by Stevo
OK, thanks for the update.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks Dropbox icon
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:19 pm
by richb
If you have installed KDE in MX-15 or are using the KDE snaphot and use Dropbox, but the dropbox icon does not show in the panel, this will add it.
In terminal as user isuue
dropbox stop, then dbus-launch dropbox start
The icon is a generic black icon rather ugly, but right click options work.
Re: MX-15 - favorite KDE tweaks
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:52 am
by chrispop99
I created a shell script for this when the Dropbox missing icon first arrived. I just need to get around to making it auto-run at boot!
Code: Select all
#!/bin/bash
dropbox stop && dbus-launch dropbox start
BTW, the icon I have is this:
Snapshot24.png
Chris