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liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:13 pm
by dolphin_oracle
similar to the user in this thread viewtopic.php?t=78646&view=unread#unread

while running liquorix 6.6.8 kernel I cannot use function keys to switch to console under sysVinit. Actually, what I think is happening is the console is available but the screen doesn't change.

using the terminal commands to change vt (chvt)did not work either, yielding either a blank screen (vt1) or a screen that still shows the graphical desktop (vt2).

using the debian 6.6.8 kernel does not have this problem at all.

I sort of suspect a graphics problem, but not sure why the debian kernel would be unaffected if that is the case.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.6.8-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.6-9~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.6.8-1-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash acpi_osi=linux
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.1_ahs_x64 Libretto July 31  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20Y5007FUS v: ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 4i
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: LENOVO model: 20Y5007FUS v: SDK0T76530 WIN serial: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO
    v: N40ET38W (1.20 ) date: 10/06/2022
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 52.6 Wh (70.6%) condition: 74.5/90.1 Wh (82.7%) volts: 16.9 min: 15.5
    model: SMP 5B11B79217 type: Li-poly serial: <filter> status: charging cycles: 147
CPU:
  Info: model: 11th Gen Intel Core i7-11850H bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Tiger Lake gen: core 11
    level: v4 note: check built: 2020 process: Intel 10nm family: 6 model-id: 0x8D (141) stepping: 1
    microcode: 0x4E
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 640 KiB
    desc: d-8x48 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 10 MiB desc: 8x1.2 MiB L3: 24 MiB desc: 1x24 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 921 high: 1429 min/max: 800/2501 boost: enabled scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1252 2: 1005 3: 800 4: 1358 5: 800 6: 799 7: 800 8: 900 9: 1429
    10: 800 11: 800 12: 800 13: 800 14: 800 15: 800 16: 800 bogomips: 79872
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling mitigation: Microcode
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling,
    PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel TigerLake-H GT1 [UHD Graphics] vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel
    arch: Gen-12.1 process: Intel 10nm built: 2020-21 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3,
    DP-4, HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:9a60 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: NVIDIA GA107M [GeForce RTX 3050 Ti Mobile] vendor: Lenovo driver: nvidia
    v: 525.147.05 non-free: 530.xx+ status: current (as of 2023-03) arch: Ampere code: GAxxx
    process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 8 link-max: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:25a0 class-ID: 0300
  Device-3: Chicony Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 3-8:3 chip-ID: 04f2:b71d
    class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv dri: iris gpu: i915
    display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x1600 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 677x423mm (26.65x16.65") s-diag: 798mm (31.43")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: AU Optronics 0x6a9f built: 2021 res: 2560x1600 hz: 60 dpi: 189
    gamma: 1.2 size: 344x215mm (13.54x8.46") diag: 406mm (16") ratio: 16:10 modes: 2560x1600
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics (TGL GT1)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Tiger Lake-H HD Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl
    alternate: snd_hda_intel,snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:43c8 class-ID: 0401
  Device-2: NVIDIA vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s
    lanes: 8 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:2291
    class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.6.8-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl pcie:
    gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 09:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2725 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 953.87 GiB used: 360.2 GiB (37.8%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: PC SN730 SDBQNTY-1T00-1001
    size: 953.87 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 11170101 temp: 32.9 C scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 70 GiB size: 68.35 GiB (97.64%) used: 21.16 GiB (31.0%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5 maj-min: 259:5
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 260 MiB size: 256 MiB (98.46%) used: 30.9 MiB (12.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p11
    maj-min: 259:11
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 46.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): fan-1: 0 fan-2: 0
Repos:
  Packages: 2650 pm: dpkg pkgs: 2635 libs: 1424 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 15
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb https://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb-src http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    3: deb https://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs ahs-staging
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode stable main
Info:
  Processes: 442 Uptime: 3m wakeups: 16032 Memory: 31.07 GiB used: 2.13 GiB (6.9%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
like the original report, I appear to have no problems under systemd.

issue may be present with other liquorix kernels, I've just never noticed before the user in the previous thread mentioned it.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:31 pm
by Stevo
I've just sent up a new revision of the 6.6.8 Liquorix, 6.6-10, but I don't know if that bug was the reason, or if the cgroups fix is related.

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  * implement stubs for current and legacy cgroup files
  * update version to 6.6.8-2

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:34 pm
by siamhie
Can confirm this is also happening with the latest liquorix kernel upgrade to 6.6.8-2 on 12/28/2023. (https://liquorix.net/)

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  30    upgrade li…    2023-12-28 06:16:45 PST          4    siamhie (1000)  
  31    upgrade li…    2023-12-29 05:25:42 PST          3    siamhie (1000)  
  32    upgrade mx…    2023-12-30 05:20:18 PST          1    siamhie (1000)  
  33    upgrade lo…    2023-12-31 06:38:18 PST          4    siamhie (1000)  
╔═[siamhie@flux23]═[14:31  31/12/23]═════════════════════════════════════════[~]
╚═> nala history info 30
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 Installed                                                                      
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  Package:                  Version:                                     Size:  
  linux-headers-6.6.8-2-l…  6.6-10.1~bookworm                          13.2 MB  
  linux-image-6.6.8-2-liq…  6.6-10.1~bookworm                          77.5 MB  
                                                                                
================================================================================
 Upgraded                                                                       
================================================================================
  Package:                  Old Version:      New Version:               Size:  
  linux-headers-liquorix-…  6.6-9.1~bookworm  6.6-10.1~bookwo            28 KB  
                                              rm                                
  linux-image-liquorix-am…  6.6-9.1~bookworm  6.6-10.1~bookwo            28 KB  
                                              rm                                
                                                                                
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 Summary                                                                        
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System:
  Kernel: 6.6.8-2-liquorix-amd64 [6.6-10.1~bookworm] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.6.8-2-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash init=/lib/systemd/systemd
  Desktop: Fluxbox v: 1.3.7 info: tint2 vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.1_fluxbox_x64
    Libretto October 15 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Micro-Star product: MS-7C56 v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Micro-Star model: B550-A PRO (MS-7C56) v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American
    Megatrends LLC. v: A.F0 date: 10/11/2023
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 gen: 3 level: v3 note: check
    built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x71 (113) stepping: 0
    microcode: 0x8701030
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 512 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 32 MiB desc: 2x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2237 high: 2800 min/max: 2200/4559 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 2200 2: 2200 3: 2200 4: 2200 5: 2200 6: 2200
    7: 2800 8: 2200 9: 2200 10: 2200 11: 2200 12: 2200 13: 2200 14: 2200 15: 2200 16: 2200
    bogomips: 124800
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT enabled with STIBP protection
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: always-on, RSB filling,
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 22 [Radeon RX 6700/6700 XT/6750 XT / 6800M/6850M XT] vendor: Tul / PowerColor
    driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1 empty: DP-2,DP-3,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 2d:00.0
    chip-ID: 1002:73df class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: Compton v: 1 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x1440 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 677x381mm (26.65x15.00") s-diag: 777mm (30.58")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 model: HP X27q serial: <filter> built: 2021
    res: 2560x1440 hz: 165 dpi: 109 gamma: 1.2 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.23") diag: 685mm (27")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 2560x1440 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (navi22 LLVM 15.0.6
    DRM 3.54 6.6.8-2-liquorix-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 2d:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab28 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 2f:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.6.8-2-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2725 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 2a:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX210 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-2.3:4 chip-ID: 8087:0032
    class-ID: e001
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: hardware: no
    software: no address: see --recommends
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 8.19 TiB used: 909.29 GiB (10.8%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:3 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G1X0E-00AFY0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 613000WD temp: 36.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G3XHC-00SJG0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 102000WD temp: 34.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: SanDisk model: ST8000DM004-2CX188 size: 7.28 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5425 serial: <filter>
    rev: 0001 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 465 GiB size: 456.63 GiB (98.20%) used: 16.64 GiB (3.6%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:5
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 128 MiB size: 126 MiB (98.45%) used: 274 KiB (0.2%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:4
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 65 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme1n1p1
    maj-min: 259:1
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 45.0 C mem: 48.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2133 libs: 1147 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] http://deb.librewolf.net bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/liquorix-keyring.gpg] https://liquorix.net/debian bookworm main
    2: deb-src [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/liquorix-keyring.gpg] https://liquorix.net/debian bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nordvpn.list
    1: deb https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian stable main
Info:
  Processes: 421 Uptime: 7m wakeups: 2 Memory: 31.28 GiB used: 1.76 GiB (5.6%) Init: systemd v: 252
  target: graphical (5) default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:49 pm
by dolphin_oracle
yep

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:01 pm
by CharlesV
This does NOT appear to happen in 6.4.9 liquorix on my test machines, but does happen on 6.5.9 and above.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:03 pm
by CharlesV
CharlesV wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:01 pm This does NOT appear to happen in 6.4.9 liquorix on my test machines, but does happen on 6.5.9 and above.
And agree - it does actually appear to be changing to the console... just leaves the graphic on screen until you return.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:06 pm
by Charlie Brown
I haven't tried the 6.6.8 but it's ok here with 6.6.5

The common point of your cards (at least the 1st cards) are being Intel (and AMD on siamhie's)

Mine is Nvidia with nouveau

(Just "maybe" ... )

(Had changed the vblank to off , but tried all now, still ok )

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:07 pm
by harrykar
cut...
using the debian 6.6.8 kernel does not have this problem at all.
I sort of suspect a graphics problem, but not sure why the debian kernel would be unaffected if that is the case.
@dolphin_oracle I confirm that the problem not subsist in MX's 6.5.x ahs kernel(is Debians i guess).
I sort of suspect a graphics problem, ....
I guess those graphic problems are very delicate/sneaky in Linux. In fact actually I use the last Liquorix kernel available in repo because the guys here suggested try using them to solve a stalling problem during boot after a Restart in a freshly installed Libretto system. nomodeset resolves the hang but introduce other issues.All in all actually I dont'use Restart till stall problem resolution.
To get a better picture please take a look in that thread

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:18 pm
by CharlesV
Happens on mx21 and 6.6.7 liquorix too! ( Focus changes, but graphical desktop still on screen. )

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Snapshot created on: 20231019_1210
System:    Kernel: 6.6.7-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.6-8~mx21ahs] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: audit=0 intel_pstate=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 
           BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.6.7-1-liquorix-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.18.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel, cairo-dock wm: xfwm 4.18.0 
           vt: 7 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower October 19  2023 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Envy Laptop 17-cw0xxx v: Type1ProductConfigId 
           serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: HP model: 8BDD v: 70.33 serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: F.05 date: 08/29/2023 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT1 charge: 56.8 Wh (100.0%) condition: 56.8/55.7 Wh (102.0%) volts: 17.3 
           min: 15.0 model: 333-17-4B-A SA04055XL type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Info: 10-Core model: 13th Gen Intel Core i7-13700H bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: N/A 
           family: 6 model-id: BA (186) stepping: 2 microcode: 411C cache: L2: 24 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 116736 
           Speed: 615 MHz min/max: 400/2901 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 615 2: 400 
           3: 1112 4: 400 5: 400 6: 400 7: 400 8: 400 9: 400 10: 400 11: 400 12: 400 13: 401 
           14: 400 15: 400 16: 400 17: 807 18: 400 19: 400 20: 400 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected 
           Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling, 
           PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 
           chip-ID: 8086:a7a0 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: Luxvisions Innotech Limited HP Wide Vision 5MP Camera type: USB 
           driver: hid-sensor-hub,usbhid,uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-7:2 chip-ID: 30c9:00ab class-ID: fe01 
           serial: <filter> 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.14 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.0x11.2") 
           s-diag: 582mm (22.9") 
           Monitor-1: eDP-1 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 128 size: 382x215mm (15.0x8.5") 
           diag: 438mm (17.3") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel Graphics (RPL-P) v: 4.6 Mesa 22.0.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           alternate: snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:51ca class-ID: 0401 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k6.6.7-1-liquorix-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.0 running: yes 
           Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.79 running: no 
Network:   Device-1: Intel driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl port: 3000 bus-ID: 00:14.3 
           chip-ID: 8086:51f1 class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: Intel type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-10:3 chip-ID: 8087:0033 
           class-ID: e001 
           Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> 
           Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: slave accept 
           service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 953.87 GiB used: 120.94 GiB (12.7%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung model: MZVL41T0HBLB-00BH1 
           size: 953.87 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 
           type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: HPS3NHAV temp: 23.9 C scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 708.88 GiB size: 696.68 GiB (98.28%) used: 120.88 GiB (17.4%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4 maj-min: 259:4 
           ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 52.2 MiB (20.7%) 
           fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 16 MiB used: 16 MiB (100.0%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 49.0 C mobo: 10.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 fan-2: 0 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2758 lib: 1333 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/signal-desktop-keyring.gpg] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spideroakone.list 
           1: deb https://apt.spideroak.com/ubuntu/ release restricted
Info:      Processes: 530 Uptime: 7d 21h 33m wakeups: 25411 Memory: 15.34 GiB 
           used: 5.3 GiB (34.5%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl 
           Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:40 pm
by Charlie Brown
Installed the 6.6.8 just now (just out of curiosity and of course to help bugfixing) "directly from Liquorix" ..

Still everything's fine here. I can navigate bw. ttys and manually login ... cursor etc.. all fine:

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System:
  Kernel: 6.6.8-2-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.6.8-2-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet nosplash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.1_x64 Libretto July 31  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)

Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GT216M [GeForce GT 230M] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: nouveau v: kernel
    non-free: series: 340.xx status: legacy (EOL) last: release: 340.108 kernel: 5.4 xorg: 1.20
    arch: Tesla process: 40-80nm built: 2006-13 pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 16 ports:
    active: LVDS-1 empty: HDMI-A-1,VGA-1 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a28 class-ID: 0300
    temp: 62.0 C
  Device-2: Suyin HP Integrated Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-1.5:3
    chip-ID: 064e:a127 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting dri: nouveau gpu: nouveau display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.21x7.99") s-diag: 414mm (16.31")
  Monitor-1: LVDS-1 model: Seiko Epson 0x3651 built: 2008 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101
    gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1366x768
    min: 640x350
  API: OpenGL v: 3.3 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: NVA5 direct-render: Yes

  Processes: 327 Uptime: 2m wakeups: 3 Memory: 3.83 GiB used: 851.7 MiB (21.7%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.08 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:34 pm
by siamhie
Looking at @Charlie Brown's QSI I noticed he had nosplash in his boot options, so I changed my boot options to nosplash and I can switch to tty's with no problem while booted to sys-v.

One other thing I noticed is with the splash option in my boot options, the screen is black (booted to sys-v) but if I press enter the tty eventually shows up and I can then switch back and forth between tty7 and tty1-6 and any tty shows up right away.


It seems to be something with the splash option and liquorix kernels 6.6.5? through the latest 6.6.8-2 versions.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:51 pm
by dolphin_oracle
Nice observation

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:58 pm
by dolphin_oracle
and indeed just hitting enter on my "locked screen" brought up the console.

weird, but liveable.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:52 pm
by Charlie Brown
siamhie wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:34 pm... nosplash ...
My Goodness, in fact that was the first thing that came to my mind but I didn't say it as it might sound absurd or irrelevant. :D

Just btw. one more thing about that:

When decrypting on boot screen: if you use the splash (or if you completely remove it) then it does the "echo" (displays the *** ) .. No matter you hit the tab key or backspace first and no matter you edit the fstab and add parameters for that. The only way is nosplash. So, we can say "having no splash parameters and having a nosplash parameter are not exactly the same things".

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:55 pm
by siamhie
Charlie Brown wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:52 pm
siamhie wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:34 pm... nosplash ...
My Goodness, in fact that was the first thing that came to my mind but I didn't say it as it might sound absurd or irrelevant. :D

Just btw. one more thing about that:

When decrypting on boot screen: if you use the splash (or if you completely remove it) then it does the "echo" (displays the *** ) .. No matter you hit the tab key or backspace first and no matter you edit the fstab and add parameters for that. The only way is nosplash. So, we can say "having no splash parameters and having a nosplash parameter are not exactly the same things".

From what I understand (feel free to correct me) is the splash/nosplash refers to the plymouth screen during boot. So having the nosplash option is the same thing as disabling the splash theme which removes the splash option in your boot options.

splash.jpg

One more thing. I tried several other splash themes and I had the same results with any tty not showing unless I press enter and wait for the tty screen to show.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:18 am
by dolphin_oracle
I would bet the "issue" is only on UEFI machines and the framebuffer handling is involved.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:42 am
by m_pav
It must have been around for a while now because I get the black VTs 1-6 with 6.5.11-3 and switching back to VT7 brings back the X-Session.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.5.11-3-liquorix-amd64 [6.5-16mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.5.11-3-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.1_x64 Libretto July 31  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20FHCTO1WW v: ThinkPad T560 serial: <superuser required>
    Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: LENOVO model: 20FHCTO1WW v: SDK0J40697 WIN serial: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO
    v: N1KET50W (1.37 ) date: 11/20/2020
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 38.8 Wh (98.5%) condition: 39.4/44.5 Wh (88.5%) volts: 12.5 min: 11.4
    model: SONY 45N1743 type: Li-poly serial: <filter> status: not charging
  ID-2: BAT1 charge: 61.5 Wh (100.0%) condition: 61.5/72.2 Wh (85.2%) volts: 12.4 min: 11.1
    model: SANYO 45N1125 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: full
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i7-6600U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Skylake gen: core 6 level: v3
    note: check built: 2015 process: Intel 14nm family: 6 model-id: 0x4E (78) stepping: 3
    microcode: 0xF0
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 128 KiB
    desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 4 MiB desc: 1x4 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1300 min/max: 400/2701 boost: enabled scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1300 2: 1300 3: 1300 4: 1300 bogomips: 22399
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Vulnerable: No microcode
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: retbleed mitigation: IBRS
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: IBRS, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling,
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort mitigation: TSX disabled
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-9
    process: Intel 14n built: 2015-16 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2
    bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1916 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Lite-On Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-8:6 chip-ID: 04ca:7058
    class-ID: 0e02
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X: loaded: intel
    dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 mapped: eDP1 model: LG Display 0x054f built: 2016 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60
    dpi: 143 gamma: 1.2 size: 340x190mm (13.39x7.48") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9
    modes: 1920x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 520 (SKL GT2)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    alternate: snd_soc_skl, snd_soc_avs, snd_sof_pci_intel_skl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:9d70
    class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.5.11-3-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-LM vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: kernel port: N/A
    bus-ID: 00:1f.6 chip-ID: 8086:156f class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Wireless 8260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:24f3 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: wwan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-7:5
    chip-ID: 8087:0a2b class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 4 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.2
    sub-v: 100 hci-v: 4.2 rev: 100
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
    service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio, telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.82 TiB used: 706.27 GiB (37.9%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 2TB size: 1.82 TiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 4B6Q scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 20 GiB size: 19.52 GiB (97.59%) used: 10.78 GiB (55.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
    maj-min: 8:5
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 260 MiB size: 256 MiB (98.46%) used: 29.5 MiB (11.5%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 1.29 TiB size: 1.27 TiB (98.35%) used: 667.78 GiB (51.4%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/dm-1 maj-min: 253:1 mapped: sda6_crypt
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 5.84 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/dm-0
    maj-min: 253:0 mapped: sda8_crypt
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 41.0 C pch: 39.5 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): fan-1: 0
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2424 libs: 1314 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list
    1: deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free
Info:
  Processes: 242 Uptime: 6h 49m wakeups: 9 Memory: 15.49 GiB used: 1.74 GiB (11.2%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:10 am
by siamhie
dolphin_oracle wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:18 am I would bet the "issue" is only on UEFI machines and the framebuffer handling is involved.

@Charlie Brown has a non UEFI machine but has the nosplash option in his boot options. (nosplash works for me on my UEFI machine)
I wonder if he would experience the same issue using the splash option instead?

Charlie Brown wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:40 pm Installed the 6.6.8 just now (just out of curiosity and of course to help bugfixing) "directly from Liquorix" ..

Still everything's fine here. I can navigate bw. ttys and manually login ... cursor etc.. all fine:

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System:
  Kernel: 6.6.8-2-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.6.8-2-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet nosplash

Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:14 am
by siamhie
Another note. This isn't relegated to the liquorix kernel. I'm experiencing it also with the xanmod kernel.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.6.8-x64v3-xanmod1 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.6.8-x64v3-xanmod1 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Fluxbox v: 1.3.7 info: tint2 vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.1_fluxbox_x64
    Libretto October 15 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Micro-Star product: MS-7C56 v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Micro-Star model: B550-A PRO (MS-7C56) v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American
    Megatrends LLC. v: A.F0 date: 10/11/2023
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 gen: 3 level: v3 note: check
    built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x71 (113) stepping: 0
    microcode: 0x8701030
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 512 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 32 MiB desc: 2x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2788 high: 3900 min/max: 2200/4559 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 2200 2: 3900 3: 3900 4: 3900 5: 2200 6: 3900
    7: 2200 8: 2200 9: 2057 10: 3600 11: 2200 12: 2200 13: 2057 14: 3600 15: 2303 16: 2200
    bogomips: 124811
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT enabled with STIBP protection
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: always-on, RSB filling,
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 22 [Radeon RX 6700/6700 XT/6750 XT / 6800M/6850M XT] vendor: Tul / PowerColor
    driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1 empty: DP-2,DP-3,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 2d:00.0
    chip-ID: 1002:73df class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: Compton v: 1 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x1440 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 677x381mm (26.65x15.00") s-diag: 777mm (30.58")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 model: HP X27q serial: <filter> built: 2021
    res: 2560x1440 hz: 165 dpi: 109 gamma: 1.2 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.23") diag: 685mm (27")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 2560x1440 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (navi22 LLVM 15.0.6
    DRM 3.54 6.6.8-x64v3-xanmod1) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 2d:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab28 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 2f:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.6.8-x64v3-xanmod1 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: off with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: off 2: wireplumber
    status: off 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2725 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 2a:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX210 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-2.3:4 chip-ID: 8087:0032
    class-ID: e001
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: hardware: no
    software: no address: see --recommends
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 8.19 TiB used: 909.95 GiB (10.9%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:3 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G1X0E-00AFY0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 613000WD temp: 38.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G3XHC-00SJG0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 102000WD temp: 36.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: SanDisk model: ST8000DM004-2CX188 size: 7.28 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5425 serial: <filter>
    rev: 0001 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 465 GiB size: 456.63 GiB (98.20%) used: 17.31 GiB (3.8%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:5
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 128 MiB size: 126 MiB (98.45%) used: 274 KiB (0.2%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:4
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 65 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme1n1p1
    maj-min: 259:1
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 35.1 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 53.0 C mem: 56.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2136 libs: 1147 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] http://deb.librewolf.net bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/liquorix-keyring.gpg] https://liquorix.net/debian bookworm main
    2: deb-src [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/liquorix-keyring.gpg] https://liquorix.net/debian bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nordvpn.list
    1: deb https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xanmod-release.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/xanmod-archive-keyring.gpg] http://deb.xanmod.org releases main
Info:
  Processes: 335 Uptime: 17m wakeups: 3 Memory: 31.27 GiB used: 1.78 GiB (5.7%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:53 am
by Charlie Brown
siamhie wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:55 pm...having the nosplash option is the same thing as disabling the splash theme which removes the splash option in your boot options...
Yes, I mean: in terms of Plymouth (and seeing a splash screen or not) it is. However, in terms of all/other consequences we can say they're not "exactly" the same. Actually that's why I (after just removing the splash) turned back to particularly adding the nosplash :)

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:11 am
by Charlie Brown
Just now booted with splash (after a full shutdown rather than a reboot) and still everything's fine. Logged in manually on tty1, navigated between all ttys either with Ctrl+Alt+ F keys and Alt+ arrow keys (right/left) .. All fine..

Then... yes, it may be something due to Bios/Uefi ... Or at least we can say it doesn't affect the classic Bios machines, no matter it's splash or not :)

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System:
  Kernel: 6.6.8-2-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.6.8-2-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash

  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.1_x64 Libretto July 31  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
...
Info:
  ... Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.08 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12...
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:18 pm
by siamhie
@Charlie Brown Could you test something for us. Enable splash and boot to sys-v and let us know if the tty's respond or if you also get a black screen.

Your system is the only one we know of that uses BIOS and not UEFI as the boot mode.



Just saw your post. So it does seems to be a UEFI issue. I wonder if the same thing happens to those running the latest 6.6.x kernels in MX-21 and UEFI?

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:42 pm
by CharlesV
siamhie wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:18 pm @Charlie Brown Could you test something for us. Enable splash and boot to sys-v and let us know if the tty's respond or if you also get a black screen.

Your system is the only one we know of that uses BIOS and not UEFI as the boot mode.



Just saw your post. So it does seems to be a UEFI issue. I wonder if the same thing happens to those running the latest 6.6.x kernels in MX-21 and UEFI?
Post #9
mx21 and 6.6.7 liquorix ( UEFI ) yes it happens

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:57 pm
by CharlesV
and mx21 and 6.6.7 liquorix ( MBR ) Does NOT happen

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:31 pm
by siamhie
CharlesV wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:42 pm
siamhie wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:18 pm @Charlie Brown Could you test something for us. Enable splash and boot to sys-v and let us know if the tty's respond or if you also get a black screen.

Your system is the only one we know of that uses BIOS and not UEFI as the boot mode.



Just saw your post. So it does seems to be a UEFI issue. I wonder if the same thing happens to those running the latest 6.6.x kernels in MX-21 and UEFI?
Post #9
mx21 and 6.6.7 liquorix ( UEFI ) yes it happens
and mx21 and 6.6.7 liquorix ( MBR ) Does NOT happen

I suppose we can rule out plymouth as a possible culprit? I wonder what has changed since kernel 6.6.5 then?



The current (semi) fix is if you are using UEFI and encounter the black screen, just press enter and wait for the tty to show.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:34 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Can you adjust that color please, it is barely readable. Thanks.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 5:04 pm
by siamhie
Eadwine Rose wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:34 pm Can you adjust that color please, it is barely readable. Thanks.
@Eadwine Rose Is that better?
(I should remember that I'm using the Dark Reader extension and have my background set to jet black)

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 5:12 pm
by Eadwine Rose
No.. please just use the forum default. Thanks.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 5:07 am
by Charlie Brown
I'd say : Maybe the version and/or additional SysV script (plymouth-modified-init) :

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plymouth-label 0.9.5-3 amd64
plymouth-themes-mx 21.09.01 all
plymouth-themes 0.9.5-3 amd64
plymouth-x11 0.9.5-3 amd64
plymouth 0.9.5-3 amd64
vs.

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plymouth-label/stable,now 22.02.122-3 amd64 [installed,automatic]
plymouth-modified-init/mx,mx,now 23.07.021 all [installed]
plymouth-themes-mx/mx,mx,now 23.07.01 all [installed]
plymouth-themes/stable,now 22.02.122-3 amd64 [installed]
plymouth-x11/stable,now 22.02.122-3 amd64 [installed]
plymouth/stable,now 22.02.122-3 amd64 [installed]
But:
CharlesV wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:42 pm ...mx21 and 6.6.7 liquorix ( UEFI ) yes it happens ...
Then... just the Liquorix causes something (related to splash and on Uefi only) ...

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 5:46 am
by Charlie Brown
Would you like some more confusion? ( :biggrin: )

Since it happens on SysV only :

My init version is: 3.08 (had installed from source manually) ... yours are 3.06 (also MX-21 : 2.96)


... Though the release notes don't mention something that might be related:

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3.08:

Enable kexec, fix halt in some situations Latest
This release focuses on three changes which are basically imports of patches from Gentoo. Special thanks to floppym for supplying these.

Applied a patch from floppm which adds kexec option to the halt command. This can be used as "halt -k".

floppym provided patch which causes the halt command to call "shutdown -h -H" instead of "shutdown -h" when halt is invoked without parameters.
This forces the shutdown command to set the INIT_HALT variable and assume, unless other conditions apply, that the "halt" call really wants to
halt the machine and INIT_HALT should be set. In other words we assume halt wants to halt unless told otherwise.
Addresses downstream Gentoo bug ID 911257.

Updated halt documentation and help output to display parameters in alphabetical order.


3.07:

Fixes for killall5 and pidof
The 3.07 release of SysV init mostly introduces fixes and improvements for the killall5 and pidof programs. (These are actually the same program, 
but are invoked with two different names, which result in different behaviour. The main highlights in this release are:

Fixed killall5 so that processes in the omit list are not sent any signals, including SIGSTOP.

Fixed usage message for killall5 to be more accurate.

pidof was not returning PIDs of programs which were launched using a symbolic link. This has been fixed so programs run from a symbolic link show up in process lists.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:45 am
by siamhie
Charlie Brown wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 5:07 am Then... just the Liquorix causes something (related to splash and on Uefi only) ...

Same thing happened when I installed the latest xanmod kernel ( 6.6.8 )

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:03 am
by siamhie
I think it might have something to do with the liquorix/xanmod kernels.

I installed the Debian 6.6.8 kernel from the popular apps tab and I have no problem switching to a tty session.

debian-6.6.8.jpg

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System:
  Kernel: 6.6.8-amd64 [6.6.8-1~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.6.8-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Fluxbox v: 1.3.7 info: tint2 vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.1_fluxbox_x64
    Libretto October 15 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Micro-Star product: MS-7C56 v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Micro-Star model: B550-A PRO (MS-7C56) v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American
    Megatrends LLC. v: A.F0 date: 10/11/2023
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 gen: 3 level: v3 note: check
    built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x71 (113) stepping: 0
    microcode: 0x8701030
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 512 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 32 MiB desc: 2x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2286 high: 3900 min/max: 2200/4559 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil cores: 1: 2056 2: 2200 3: 3900 4: 2200 5: 2200 6: 2200
    7: 2200 8: 2200 9: 2200 10: 2035 11: 2200 12: 2200 13: 2203 14: 2195 15: 2200 16: 2200
    bogomips: 124798
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT enabled with STIBP protection
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: always-on, RSB filling,
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 22 [Radeon RX 6700/6700 XT/6750 XT / 6800M/6850M XT] vendor: Tul / PowerColor
    driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1 empty: DP-2,DP-3,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 2d:00.0
    chip-ID: 1002:73df class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: Compton v: 1 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x1440 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 677x381mm (26.65x15.00") s-diag: 777mm (30.58")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 model: HP X27q serial: <filter> built: 2021
    res: 2560x1440 hz: 165 dpi: 109 gamma: 1.2 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.23") diag: 685mm (27")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 2560x1440 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (navi22 LLVM 15.0.6
    DRM 3.54 6.6.8-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 2d:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab28 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 2f:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.6.8-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: off with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: off 2: wireplumber
    status: off 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2725 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 2a:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX210 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-2.3:4 chip-ID: 8087:0032
    class-ID: e001
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: hardware: no
    software: no address: see --recommends
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 8.19 TiB used: 908.46 GiB (10.8%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G3XHC-00SJG0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 102000WD temp: 35.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:3 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G1X0E-00AFY0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 613000WD temp: 36.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: SanDisk model: ST8000DM004-2CX188 size: 7.28 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5425 serial: <filter>
    rev: 0001 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 465 GiB size: 456.63 GiB (98.20%) used: 17.89 GiB (3.9%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme1n1p2 maj-min: 259:5
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 128 MiB size: 126 MiB (98.45%) used: 274 KiB (0.2%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme1n1p1 maj-min: 259:4
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 65 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
    maj-min: 259:1
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 34.6 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 50.0 C mem: 54.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2130 libs: 1143 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] http://deb.librewolf.net bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/liquorix-keyring.gpg] https://liquorix.net/debian bookworm main
    2: deb-src [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/liquorix-keyring.gpg] https://liquorix.net/debian bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nordvpn.list
    1: deb https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian stable main
Info:
  Processes: 373 Uptime: 4m wakeups: 3 Memory: 31.27 GiB used: 1.52 GiB (4.9%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:08 am
by Charlie Brown
siamhie wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:45 am... Same thing happened when I installed the latest xanmod kernel ...
Ah, yes, I mean.. non-default or non-MX/antiX or non-Debian etc.. :)

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:12 am
by siamhie
Charlie Brown wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:08 am
siamhie wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:45 am... Same thing happened when I installed the latest xanmod kernel ...
Ah, yes, I mean.. non-default or non-MX/antiX or non-Debian etc.. :)

Correct. Still doesn't pin down where the issue lies but if it really bothers someone running those kernels, they can use Debian's latest kernel without issue.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:16 am
by Charlie Brown
Maybe any of you installs the init 3.08 and tests with Liq + Uefi + SysV :D

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:44 am
by siamhie
Charlie Brown wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:16 am Maybe any of you installs the init 3.08 and tests with Liq + Uefi + SysV :D

@Charlie Brown I'll test it if I know exactly which app to upgrade.

init.jpg

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:58 am
by Charlie Brown
https://github.com/slicer69/sysvinit/re ... .08.tar.xz

:)

Oh, it's already there , I realize this just now :)

I've been using the above one: simply sudo make (and) sudo make install

You can use the gui if you like... (check the 3: initscripts..., sysv... )

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:42 am
by siamhie
Charlie Brown wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:58 am https://github.com/slicer69/sysvinit/re ... .08.tar.xz

:)

Oh, it's already there , I realize this just now :)

I've been using the above one: simply sudo make (and) sudo make install

You can use the gui if you like... (check the 3: initscripts..., sysv... )

No change. I still have to press enter to bring up the tty console after the screen goes solid black.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.6-11.1~bookworm] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Fluxbox v: 1.3.7 info: tint2 vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.1_fluxbox_x64
    Libretto October 15 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Micro-Star product: MS-7C56 v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Micro-Star model: B550-A PRO (MS-7C56) v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American
    Megatrends LLC. v: A.F0 date: 10/11/2023
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 gen: 3 level: v3 note: check
    built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x71 (113) stepping: 0
    microcode: 0x8701030
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 512 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 32 MiB desc: 2x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2245 high: 3900 min/max: 2200/4559 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1868 2: 1867 3: 2800 4: 1868 5: 2056 6: 3900
    7: 2057 8: 2058 9: 2200 10: 2200 11: 2200 12: 2200 13: 2058 14: 2200 15: 2200 16: 2200
    bogomips: 124798
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT enabled with STIBP protection
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: always-on, RSB filling,
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 22 [Radeon RX 6700/6700 XT/6750 XT / 6800M/6850M XT] vendor: Tul / PowerColor
    driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1 empty: DP-2,DP-3,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 2d:00.0
    chip-ID: 1002:73df class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: Compton v: 1 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x1440 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 677x381mm (26.65x15.00") s-diag: 777mm (30.58")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 model: HP X27q serial: <filter> built: 2021
    res: 2560x1440 hz: 165 dpi: 109 gamma: 1.2 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.23") diag: 685mm (27")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 2560x1440 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (navi22 LLVM 15.0.6
    DRM 3.54 6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 2d:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab28 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 2f:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: off with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: off 2: wireplumber
    status: off 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2725 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 2a:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX210 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-2.3:4 chip-ID: 8087:0032
    class-ID: e001
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: hardware: no
    software: no address: see --recommends
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 8.19 TiB used: 907.87 GiB (10.8%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:3 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G1X0E-00AFY0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 613000WD temp: 37.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G3XHC-00SJG0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 102000WD temp: 34.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: SanDisk model: ST8000DM004-2CX188 size: 7.28 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5425 serial: <filter>
    rev: 0001 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 465 GiB size: 456.63 GiB (98.20%) used: 17.3 GiB (3.8%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:5
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 128 MiB size: 126 MiB (98.45%) used: 274 KiB (0.2%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:4
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 65 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme1n1p1
    maj-min: 259:1
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 34.5 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 57.0 C mem: 60.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2128 libs: 1143 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] http://deb.librewolf.net bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/liquorix-keyring.gpg] https://liquorix.net/debian bookworm main
    2: deb-src [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/liquorix-keyring.gpg] https://liquorix.net/debian bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nordvpn.list
    1: deb https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian stable main
Info:
  Processes: 425 Uptime: 2m wakeups: 3 Memory: 31.28 GiB used: 1.45 GiB (4.6%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.08 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:45 am
by Charlie Brown
Ok, thank you for trying. One more possibility is eliminated :)

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 5:20 pm
by siamhie
While looking through my syslog, I keep coming across this section which correlates when I was switching to a tty while booted to sys-v on my UEFI machine.
There seems to be a lot of these entries, probably when I was testing. Odd that it's setting the console to 320x90 which of course my monitor doesn't support.

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2024-01-02T14:00:17.356006-08:00 flux23 kernel: fbcon: Taking over console
2024-01-02T14:00:17.409195-08:00 flux23 kernel: Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 320x90

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 5:27 pm
by dolphin_oracle
yep, framebuffer. its the common thread.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 6:50 pm
by siamhie
Here's a twist. :frustrated:

I can get it to work with the 6.6.9 liquorix kernel and UEFI.

Open MX Boot Options and on the kernel parameters line remove either splash or quiet. Having both of them creates the issue.

Works: splash
Works: quiet
Doesn't work: splash quiet

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System:
  Kernel: 6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.6-11.1~bookworm] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet
  Desktop: Fluxbox v: 1.3.7 info: tint2 vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.1_fluxbox_x64
    Libretto October 15 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Micro-Star product: MS-7C56 v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Micro-Star model: B550-A PRO (MS-7C56) v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American
    Megatrends LLC. v: A.F0 date: 10/11/2023
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 gen: 3 level: v3 note: check
    built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x71 (113) stepping: 0
    microcode: 0x8701030
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 512 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 32 MiB desc: 2x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2382 high: 3900 min/max: 2200/4559 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 2800 2: 2200 3: 2800 4: 2800 5: 2058 6: 2057
    7: 2058 8: 3900 9: 2200 10: 2200 11: 2200 12: 2200 13: 2054 14: 2200 15: 2200 16: 2200
    bogomips: 124804
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT enabled with STIBP protection
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: always-on, RSB filling,
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 22 [Radeon RX 6700/6700 XT/6750 XT / 6800M/6850M XT] vendor: Tul / PowerColor
    driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1 empty: DP-2,DP-3,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 2d:00.0
    chip-ID: 1002:73df class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: Compton v: 1 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x1440 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 677x381mm (26.65x15.00") s-diag: 777mm (30.58")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 model: HP X27q serial: <filter> built: 2021
    res: 2560x1440 hz: 165 dpi: 109 gamma: 1.2 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.23") diag: 685mm (27")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 2560x1440 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (navi22 LLVM 15.0.6
    DRM 3.54 6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 2d:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab28 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 2f:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: off with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: off 2: wireplumber
    status: off 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2725 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 2a:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX210 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-2.3:4 chip-ID: 8087:0032
    class-ID: e001
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: hardware: no
    software: no address: see --recommends
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 8.19 TiB used: 907.91 GiB (10.8%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G3XHC-00SJG0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 102000WD temp: 34.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:3 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G1X0E-00AFY0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 613000WD temp: 37.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: SanDisk model: ST8000DM004-2CX188 size: 7.28 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5425 serial: <filter>
    rev: 0001 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 465 GiB size: 456.63 GiB (98.20%) used: 17.34 GiB (3.8%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme1n1p2 maj-min: 259:5
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 128 MiB size: 126 MiB (98.45%) used: 274 KiB (0.2%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme1n1p1 maj-min: 259:4
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 65 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
    maj-min: 259:1
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 34.1 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 59.0 C mem: 60.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2128 libs: 1143 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] http://deb.librewolf.net bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/liquorix-keyring.gpg] https://liquorix.net/debian bookworm main
    2: deb-src [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/liquorix-keyring.gpg] https://liquorix.net/debian bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nordvpn.list
    1: deb https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian stable main
Info:
  Processes: 406 Uptime: 5m wakeups: 3 Memory: 31.28 GiB used: 1.48 GiB (4.7%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.08 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:34 am
by siamhie
Continuing with this tty error testing, I tried out 6 different kernels and found a common ground (I think). It does happen to be framebuffer related.

kernels.jpg

Here are the two kernels that work with UEFI machines.
Debian 6.6.8 (AHS) <----MXPI
Debian 6.6.9 (AHS) <----MXPI

Here are the four kernels that don't work with UEFI machines.
Liquorix 6.3.9-1 <----MXPI
Liquorix 6.4.15-2 <----MXPI
Liquorix 6.5.11-3 <----MXPI
Liquorix 6.6.9-1 <----directly from the Liquorix repo


While looking at each of the config files in the headers folder for each kernel (/usr/src) I noticed this section seems to be different between Debian's kernels and Liquorix's kernels.


Debian:

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#
# Console display driver support
#
CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE_COLUMNS=80
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE_ROWS=25
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_LEGACY_ACCELERATION is not set
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DETECT_PRIMARY=y
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_ROTATION=y
# CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DEFERRED_TAKEOVER is not set
# end of Console display driver support
Liquorix:

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#
# Console display driver support
#
CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE_COLUMNS=80
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE_ROWS=25
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_LEGACY_ACCELERATION is not set
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DETECT_PRIMARY=y
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_ROTATION=y
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DEFERRED_TAKEOVER=y
# end of Console display driver support

Seems Debian comments out "CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DEFERRED_TAKEOVER" and Liquorix doesn't.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:16 am
by CharlesV
@siamhie THIS might explain why I had so much trouble with the plymouth animation being wonky when I was setting it up! We came to the conclusion it was frame buffering, and I got around it, but there was flat out something odd at play and I was testing on regular / liquorix and different versions.

Excellent work at tracking that! Seriously nice!

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:08 am
by siamhie
CharlesV wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:16 am @siamhie THIS might explain why I had so much trouble with the plymouth animation being wonky when I was setting it up! We came to the conclusion it was frame buffering, and I got around it, but there was flat out something odd at play and I was testing on regular / liquorix and different versions.

Excellent work at tracking that! Seriously nice!

@CharlesV Did you happen to test it on a UEFI machine with MX-21? Seems 21 uses plymouth version 0.9.5-3 whereas 23 uses version 22.02.122-3, so I wonder if the liquorix kernels also have this framebuffer issue with 0.9.5-3 plymouth.

I do have a sata ssd laying around that I could add to my system and test with.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:15 am
by CharlesV
siamhie wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:08 am
CharlesV wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:16 am @siamhie THIS might explain why I had so much trouble with the plymouth animation being wonky when I was setting it up! We came to the conclusion it was frame buffering, and I got around it, but there was flat out something odd at play and I was testing on regular / liquorix and different versions.

Excellent work at tracking that! Seriously nice!

@CharlesV Did you happen to test it on a UEFI machine with MX-21? Seems 21 uses plymouth version 0.9.5-3 whereas 23 uses version 22.02.122-3, so I wonder if the liquorix kernels also have this framebuffer issue with 0.9.5-3 plymouth.

I do have a sata ssd laying around that I could add to my system and test with.
Yes, I use mx21 on my main rigs and this was where I created the plymouth animation. When I tested it on mx23 it got all weird on me - that was the beginning of the weirdness (mx23). I was rock solid on mx21, but I was also not up in the 6.x kernels either - I was in 5.14?

This issue of the virtual consoles DOES happen as I explained in post #9 mx21 and 6.6.7 liquorix ( UEFI ) , as well as 6.6.8 as I am on now.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:56 pm
by Charlie Brown
Though it says "do not manually edit", does it change if you comment out that line (then reboot) ?

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:59 pm
by AVLinux
Hi,

Secondary question: Could this issue affect Remasters/ISO builds in some way?

Before the holidays I built a Test ISO with Liquorix 6.6.6 (not with Snapshot, with build-iso-mx) everything worked as expected... Liquorix 6.6.6 has been removed from the AHS Repo so this morning I built a test ISO with Liquorix 6.6.9 and it would not load the DE (Enlightenment). The mouse pointer appeared and turned into a cursor and that was that. I was able to get into X with a Ctrl-Alt-F2 and 'startx' but something has changed since 6.6.6... :confused:

I'm booting with: AVL_MXE_LIVE_BOOT_OPTIONS="quiet threadirqs nosplash"

*EDIT I will retry with 'quiet' removed..

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:00 pm
by Charlie Brown
I guess yes , but at least we know that nosplash cures it :)

Edit: Ah, that one looks like a bit different. This issue was only about/when switching ttys ...

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:03 pm
by AVLinux
Charlie Brown wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:00 pm I guess yes , but at least we know that nosplash cures it :)
But I'm booting with nosplash... Maybe I have a different problem...

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:05 pm
by Charlie Brown
Yep, I was talking about the "tty" issue :)

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:09 pm
by dolphin_oracle
Charlie Brown wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:56 pm Though it says "do not manually edit", does it change if you comment out that line (then reboot) ?
I believe those are compile time options.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:16 pm
by Charlie Brown
Oh la la :hitmyhead: :D

Thank you .

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:32 pm
by AVLinux
Hi,

To clarify in case I've muddied the water... It's entirely possible X not loading was simply a boot glitch but removing 'quiet' from my boot switches allowed X to start normally on a rebuilt ISO... I suppose we will hear more about this if more issues pop up with people remastering on these newer kernels..

The removal of 'quiet' seemed to only mean an extra couple of milliseconds of code blurting across the screen so not really a vital option anyway, Although boot splashes look very professional I have never minded watching the console output..

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:55 pm
by Charlie Brown
What if you just: threadirqs splash ?

At least out of curiosity :)

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:38 pm
by siamhie
CharlesV wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:15 am
This issue of the virtual consoles DOES happen as I explained in post #9 mx21 and 6.6.7 liquorix ( UEFI ) , as well as 6.6.8 as I am on now.

Thanks for pointing out the post @CharlesV . I should go through the thread and make notes as to what does work and what doesn't.

So I think we can now rule out plymouth as there are two versions between MX-21 and MX-23.

MX-21 uses plymouth-0.9.5 version released 2020-07-08 (0.9.5-3)
MX-23 uses plymouth-22.02.122 version released 2022-01-11 (22.02.122-3)

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:50 pm
by siamhie
Charlie Brown wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:56 pm Though it says "do not manually edit", does it change if you comment out that line (then reboot) ?

Not entirely sure. I find it easier to just open MX Boot Options and make the changes right there on the kernel parameters line.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:03 pm
by siamhie
AVLinux wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:32 pm Hi,

To clarify in case I've muddied the water... It's entirely possible X not loading was simply a boot glitch but removing 'quiet' from my boot switches allowed X to start normally on a rebuilt ISO... I suppose we will hear more about this if more issues pop up with people remastering on these newer kernels..

The removal of 'quiet' seemed to only mean an extra couple of milliseconds of code blurting across the screen so not really a vital option anyway, Although boot splashes look very professional I have never minded watching the console output..

From my limited understanding of those two kernel options from this trial and error.

The quiet option just suppresses more of the log messages you'll see on the screen.
The splash/nosplash option just enables or disables the plymouth boot animation.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:14 pm
by fehlix
siamhie wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:34 am Liquorix:

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CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DEFERRED_TAKEOVER=y
# end of Console display driver support
Seems Debian comments out "CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DEFERRED_TAKEOVER" and Liquorix doesn't.
Good findings.
Maybe try this kernel boot parameter:

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fbcon=nodefer
to disabled "deferred takeover" of the framebuffer,
which may help to show the virtual console.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:22 pm
by dolphin_oracle
that does the trick.

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles  [Solved]

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:54 pm
by siamhie
fehlix wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:14 pm
siamhie wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:34 am Liquorix:

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CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DEFERRED_TAKEOVER=y
# end of Console display driver support
Seems Debian comments out "CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DEFERRED_TAKEOVER" and Liquorix doesn't.
Good findings.
Maybe try this kernel boot parameter:

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fbcon=nodefer
to disabled "deferred takeover" of the framebuffer,
which may help to show the virtual console.
dolphin_oracle wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:22 pm that does the trick.


I'm putting together a what works and what doesn't list regarding the switching to a tty console.
(work in progress)


What works:
Booting to systemd regardless of the machine (BIOS/UEFI) or kernel (Debian/Liquorix)
Booting to sys-v with BIOS and ANY 6.6.x kernel
Booting to sys-v with UEFI and only the Debian 6.6.x kernel


What doesn't:
Booting to sys-v with UEFI and any Liquorix 6.6.x kernel


Current fixes for the sys-v, UEFI and Liquorix 6.6.x kernel:
Remove splash from kernel parameter
or
Remove quiet from kernel parameter
or
Add fbcon=nodefer to the kernel parameter

Re: liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:06 pm
by Charlie Brown
@dolphin_oracle Maybe you mark the thread :)