liquourix 6.6.8 kernel, virtual consoles [Solved]

[dolphin_oracle]

yep, framebuffer. its the common thread.

[siamhie]

Here's a twist.

I can get it to work with the 6.6.9 liquorix kernel and UEFI.

Open MX Boot Options and on the kernel parameters line remove either splash or quiet. Having both of them creates the issue.

Works: splash
Works: quiet
Doesn't work: splash quiet

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System:
  Kernel: 6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.6-11.1~bookworm] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet
  Desktop: Fluxbox v: 1.3.7 info: tint2 vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.1_fluxbox_x64
    Libretto October 15 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Micro-Star product: MS-7C56 v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Micro-Star model: B550-A PRO (MS-7C56) v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American
    Megatrends LLC. v: A.F0 date: 10/11/2023
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 gen: 3 level: v3 note: check
    built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x71 (113) stepping: 0
    microcode: 0x8701030
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 512 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 32 MiB desc: 2x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2382 high: 3900 min/max: 2200/4559 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 2800 2: 2200 3: 2800 4: 2800 5: 2058 6: 2057
    7: 2058 8: 3900 9: 2200 10: 2200 11: 2200 12: 2200 13: 2054 14: 2200 15: 2200 16: 2200
    bogomips: 124804
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT enabled with STIBP protection
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: always-on, RSB filling,
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 22 [Radeon RX 6700/6700 XT/6750 XT / 6800M/6850M XT] vendor: Tul / PowerColor
    driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1 empty: DP-2,DP-3,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 2d:00.0
    chip-ID: 1002:73df class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: Compton v: 1 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x1440 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 677x381mm (26.65x15.00") s-diag: 777mm (30.58")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 model: HP X27q serial: <filter> built: 2021
    res: 2560x1440 hz: 165 dpi: 109 gamma: 1.2 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.23") diag: 685mm (27")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 2560x1440 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (navi22 LLVM 15.0.6
    DRM 3.54 6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 2d:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab28 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 2f:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: off with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: off 2: wireplumber
    status: off 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2725 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 2a:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX210 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-2.3:4 chip-ID: 8087:0032
    class-ID: e001
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: hardware: no
    software: no address: see --recommends
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 8.19 TiB used: 907.91 GiB (10.8%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G3XHC-00SJG0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 102000WD temp: 34.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:3 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G1X0E-00AFY0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 613000WD temp: 37.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: SanDisk model: ST8000DM004-2CX188 size: 7.28 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5425 serial: <filter>
    rev: 0001 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 465 GiB size: 456.63 GiB (98.20%) used: 17.34 GiB (3.8%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme1n1p2 maj-min: 259:5
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 128 MiB size: 126 MiB (98.45%) used: 274 KiB (0.2%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme1n1p1 maj-min: 259:4
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 65 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
    maj-min: 259:1
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 34.1 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 59.0 C mem: 60.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2128 libs: 1143 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] http://deb.librewolf.net bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/liquorix-keyring.gpg] https://liquorix.net/debian bookworm main
    2: deb-src [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/liquorix-keyring.gpg] https://liquorix.net/debian bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nordvpn.list
    1: deb https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian stable main
Info:
  Processes: 406 Uptime: 5m wakeups: 3 Memory: 31.28 GiB used: 1.48 GiB (4.7%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.08 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

[siamhie]

Continuing with this tty error testing, I tried out 6 different kernels and found a common ground (I think). It does happen to be framebuffer related.

kernels.jpg

Here are the two kernels that work with UEFI machines.
Debian 6.6.8 (AHS) <----MXPI
Debian 6.6.9 (AHS) <----MXPI

Here are the four kernels that don't work with UEFI machines.
Liquorix 6.3.9-1 <----MXPI
Liquorix 6.4.15-2 <----MXPI
Liquorix 6.5.11-3 <----MXPI
Liquorix 6.6.9-1 <----directly from the Liquorix repo


While looking at each of the config files in the headers folder for each kernel (/usr/src) I noticed this section seems to be different between Debian's kernels and Liquorix's kernels.


Debian:

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#
# Console display driver support
#
CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE_COLUMNS=80
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE_ROWS=25
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_LEGACY_ACCELERATION is not set
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DETECT_PRIMARY=y
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_ROTATION=y
# CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DEFERRED_TAKEOVER is not set
# end of Console display driver support

Liquorix:

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#
# Console display driver support
#
CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE_COLUMNS=80
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE_ROWS=25
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_LEGACY_ACCELERATION is not set
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DETECT_PRIMARY=y
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_ROTATION=y
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DEFERRED_TAKEOVER=y
# end of Console display driver support

Seems Debian comments out "CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DEFERRED_TAKEOVER" and Liquorix doesn't.

[CharlesV]

@siamhie THIS might explain why I had so much trouble with the plymouth animation being wonky when I was setting it up! We came to the conclusion it was frame buffering, and I got around it, but there was flat out something odd at play and I was testing on regular / liquorix and different versions.

Excellent work at tracking that! Seriously nice!

[siamhie]

@siamhie THIS might explain why I had so much trouble with the plymouth animation being wonky when I was setting it up! We came to the conclusion it was frame buffering, and I got around it, but there was flat out something odd at play and I was testing on regular / liquorix and different versions.

Excellent work at tracking that! Seriously nice!

@CharlesV Did you happen to test it on a UEFI machine with MX-21? Seems 21 uses plymouth version 0.9.5-3 whereas 23 uses version 22.02.122-3, so I wonder if the liquorix kernels also have this framebuffer issue with 0.9.5-3 plymouth.

I do have a sata ssd laying around that I could add to my system and test with.

[CharlesV]

@siamhie THIS might explain why I had so much trouble with the plymouth animation being wonky when I was setting it up! We came to the conclusion it was frame buffering, and I got around it, but there was flat out something odd at play and I was testing on regular / liquorix and different versions.

Excellent work at tracking that! Seriously nice!

@CharlesV Did you happen to test it on a UEFI machine with MX-21? Seems 21 uses plymouth version 0.9.5-3 whereas 23 uses version 22.02.122-3, so I wonder if the liquorix kernels also have this framebuffer issue with 0.9.5-3 plymouth.

I do have a sata ssd laying around that I could add to my system and test with.

Yes, I use mx21 on my main rigs and this was where I created the plymouth animation. When I tested it on mx23 it got all weird on me - that was the beginning of the weirdness (mx23). I was rock solid on mx21, but I was also not up in the 6.x kernels either - I was in 5.14?

This issue of the virtual consoles DOES happen as I explained in post #9 mx21 and 6.6.7 liquorix ( UEFI ) , as well as 6.6.8 as I am on now.

[Charlie Brown]

Though it says "do not manually edit", does it change if you comment out that line (then reboot) ?

[AVLinux]

Hi,

Secondary question: Could this issue affect Remasters/ISO builds in some way?

Before the holidays I built a Test ISO with Liquorix 6.6.6 (not with Snapshot, with build-iso-mx) everything worked as expected... Liquorix 6.6.6 has been removed from the AHS Repo so this morning I built a test ISO with Liquorix 6.6.9 and it would not load the DE (Enlightenment). The mouse pointer appeared and turned into a cursor and that was that. I was able to get into X with a Ctrl-Alt-F2 and 'startx' but something has changed since 6.6.6...

I'm booting with: AVL_MXE_LIVE_BOOT_OPTIONS="quiet threadirqs nosplash"

*EDIT I will retry with 'quiet' removed..

[Charlie Brown]

I guess yes , but at least we know that nosplash cures it :)

Edit: Ah, that one looks like a bit different. This issue was only about/when switching ttys ...

[AVLinux]

I guess yes , but at least we know that nosplash cures it :)

But I'm booting with nosplash... Maybe I have a different problem...