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Cherrytree 0.38.9 is now in the Repository for MX-19.

A hierarchical note taking application, featuring rich text and syntax highlighting, storing data in a single xml or sqlite file.

More information for end users can be found here.

I have been using it on MX-19 amd64 for a bit, but please let us know if you run into any issues using it.

Cool.
It's a nice improvement.

Cherrytree has been updated to 0.39.0 in the Stable MX-19 repository

Changes since last 0.38 include:
* improved export to html (work of @ksmukta)
* fixed export to pdf, picture blurry (work of @txe)
* implemented a 'command palette' dialog to quickly access all the commands in one place (work of @ksmukta)
* improved sorting (work of @txe)
* improved performance of imports into cherrytre (work of @txe)
* fixed 'recent document paths have wrong enconding' (#632, work of @txe)
* fixed 'files with russian names won't open through command line under Windows' (#633, work of @txe)
* fixed 'visited nodes history, going to todays node using key binding' (work of @ksmukta)
* fixed 'syntax Highlighting selected first from list when pressing enter' (#657, work of @txe)
* updated syntax highlighting language specs files for various languages (#228, #92, #38, work of @txe)
* cursor to stay inside codeBox after creation (#655, work of @txe - remember: Ctrl+Space moves the cursor in and out the codebox)
* added triple click functionality to select paragraph (work of @letto4135)
* fixed smart quotes spell check bug (work of @letto4135)
* added new language Swedish (translated by Åke Engelbrektson)

Cherrytree has been updated to 0.39.2 in the Stable MX-19 repository

Updates include:
* fix very slow node creation (#686)
* fix Wrong "." processing in "Replace in Nodes Names" (RegExp mode) (#689)
* workaround for dead_diaeresis, dead_acute on win32 (#427, #688)
* fix for table's cell content lost unless you explicitly press Enter (#700)
* fix Control/command key deselects (un-highlights) text in table (#699)
* fix Keyboard shortcuts for sorting do not work (#305, work of @Mammoets)
* the porting to Gtkmm3 will shortly produce the first testing version thanks to the hard work of Evgenii (@txe)

Cherrytree 0.39.3 has been added to the Stable MX-19 repository

Updates include:

• Forbid to use ‘<‘ and ‘>’ in password in PyGtk2 (#765) – all characters will be available in upcoming Gtkmm3 version currently under testing
• After toggle tree visibility with tree that becomes visible, the tree gets the focus (tree gets hidden, text gets the focus)
• Possibility to disable triple click selecting the whole paragraph, currently only editing directly config.cfg (look for triple_click_paragraph)
• Updated language German from new maintainer Stefan Pöschel
• Updated language Finnish (Henri Kaustinen)
• Small fixes to Spanish translation (Roberto Vaquerizo)

Cherrytree 0.39.4 has been added to the Stable MX-19 repository.

Linux relevant changes:

• Fix apostrophe spell check (AyubM, #879)
• Fix zoom with Ctrl held down and mouse wheel, missing Ctrl release (#940)

Hello,
After long time waiting, Cherrytree 0.99.14 stable was released.
I appreciate a lot if Cherrytree can be updated in the standard repos, since is not neither in Test, Debian backport nor Flatpaks.

I quote from the developer website: https://www.giuspen.com/cherrytree/#downl

download last stable version 0.99.14 (September 30th, 2020 – changelog) :

tar.gz archive source code (GPLv3+): cherrytree_0.99.14.tar.xz or https://github.com/giuspen/cherrytree/a ... .14.tar.gz

deb package ubuntu 20.04 package
(giuspen PPA: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:giuspen/ppa)
https://launchpad.net/~giuspen/+archive ... _amd64.deb
https://launchpad.net/~giuspen/+archive ... _arm64.deb

Thanks and best regards
joejac

MX KDE =

joejac wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:22 pm Hello,
After long time waiting, Cherrytree 0.99.14 stable was released.
I appreciate a lot if Cherrytree can be updated in the standard repos, since is not neither in Test, Debian backport nor Flatpaks.

I quote from the developer website: https://www.giuspen.com/cherrytree/#downl

download last stable version 0.99.14 (September 30th, 2020 – changelog) :

Thanks and best regards

Thank you, I am aware it came out, but it was just released yesterday... you have to give us time to do it, test it, then include it in the repo.

I won’t be able to get to it until next week as my real job has me really busy right now, but it’s on the list of things to update.

Thanks a lot SwampRabbit

I have tried to build it on antiX buster, but failed.
I have been able to build it for testing/sid.

anticapitalista wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:52 pm I have tried to build it on antiX buster, but failed.
I have been able to build it for testing/sid.

Thanks for the heads up anti.

By chance do you have the failed build log to PM to me? I guess I’ll find out next week one way or another.

anticapitalista wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:52 pm I have tried to build it on antiX buster, but failed.
I have been able to build it for testing/sid.

Thanks a lot anticapitalista.
Do you have an Idea when it will be available in the MX 19.2 KDE Repo Test?
Best regards

joejac wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:45 pm

anticapitalista wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:52 pm I have tried to build it on antiX buster, but failed.
I have been able to build it for testing/sid.

Thanks a lot anticapitalista.
Do you have an Idea when it will be available in the MX 19.2 KDE Repo Test?
Best regards

anticapitalista is the lead developer for antiX, they won’t be packaging it for MX. I maintain Cherrytree for MX.

I said I will get to it next week, maybe I can do it Sunday, won’t know if time will free up until then. One of the other package maintainers can do it if they want, but we all volunteer for this stuff.

joejac wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:45 pm Do you have an Idea when it will be available in the MX 19.2 KDE Repo Test?
Best regards

I ran through several failed builds using the 0.99.14 release, nothing jumped out in the build log as something we can fix directly.

That being said, I am watching the Cherrytree GitHub, there are updates every few days.

I'll try and do a build off of the GitHub master sometime soon (time permitted) unless another release is done, then I'll do a newer release, but I won't chase as fast moving application.
If the next build fails I will post an issue on GitHub to let the developer know and see if the build issues can be identified.

Hello,
Is there any news on this subject?.
Thank you.

joejac wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:44 am Hello,
Is there any news on this subject?.
Thank you.

I wrote to the author about the build failure for the latest release. He writes back

Unfortunately we have few dependencies that require minimum Ubuntu 20.04 / Debian unstable, there is no way to get around that. ... I will make a flatpak soon so it will run everywhere

I pointed out to him that flatpaks can have some serious problems with startup time due to a font cache building bug (I forget where), not for everything, but for some things for sure. I don't think that convinced him to change his mind. I would look at a diff-ing all the files into the currently building version. In my mind, there's nothing that requires new libraries from Debian unstable. I'm more interested in bug fixes and feature advances in formatting. Try the Meld software for that purpose.

We've also been able to backport certain python 3 modules in the past, so all isn't lost for sure.

OKie wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:54 am I would look at a diff-ing all the files into the currently building version. In my mind, there's nothing that requires new libraries from Debian unstable. I'm more interested in bug fixes and feature advances in formatting. Try the Meld software for that purpose.

That won’t work, the difference is that Cherrytree is going from a python2 application to a C based application.

I’m looking at the build failure to determine if build and runtime dependencies can be backported as well, but there is a chance they cannot if it depends on for example an updated libc In order to build which is what it looks like so far.

They don't list the minimum build dependencies in their internal debian/control file, but must somewhere in a cmake file. Right now, the first thing that makes it error out is "Requested 'glibmm-2.4 >= 2.64' but version of glibmm is 2.58.0". Debian testing has 2.64.2, but there's no saying yet if that would need the whole GTK 3 framework backported also.

Thanks for the updates to everybody.
I can see is going to take some time to have it working.
I will wait.
Thank you for your efforts.
Regards

joejac wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:06 pm Thanks for the updates to everybody.
I can see is going to take some time to have it working.
I will wait.
Thank you for your efforts.
Regards

I have backported 4 of 6 build dependencies already, but running into issues with the 5th right now. Won’t know about the runtime dependencies until I get it built first.

Hello, is there any news on this?

Y found these links:
1. https://launchpad.net/~giuspen/+archive ... /+packages
2. https://launchpad.net/~giuspen/+archive ... _amd64.deb

I wonder if I can try to install: cherrytree_0.99.19-2_amd64.deb or it is not advisable.
Thank you

They will not work (as I posted above) on 'buster' based Debian derivatives.
But, feel free to try and prove me wrong,

Hello and thanks anticapitalista.
I get the error "can not satisfy dependencies" no luck.

joejac wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:11 pm Hello and thanks anticapitalista.
I get the error "can not satisfy dependencies" no luck.

So, as I said, they will not work on 'buster' based Debian derivatives.
You'll have to stick with the 0.39.4 series provided by MX/antiX (Debian does not even provide any cherrytree debs for buster).

cherrytree 0.99 series will come with MX/antiX 21 (Debian bullseye) and not sooner.

Understood, thank you for your reply anticapitalista.

joejac wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:37 pm Hello, is there any news on this?

No change since my last post two weeks ago, there is no change because the status is the same.

If I can get this thing to work without destroying users' systems in the process, I will update this thread.
Right now the dependencies required to build and run this for Debian Buster (stable) or any distro based off it is not fairing well. I have some done, but not all, and their stability is not fully known.

As anticapitalista has stated, the newest branch of Cherrytree is not developed to run on any version of Debian older than Debian 11 Bullseye (which is not released because it is not stable). The only reason it can run on Buntu, Mint, etc, etc is because they are not based on Debian Buster (stable), they are based on the unstable testing version of Debian. The developer of Cherrytree chose to put everyone in this situation, they had their reasons... it does not good to question it as it isn't going to change. The most we can hope for at this point is possibly getting it to build and run on Buster... that or they release a flatpak or appimage.

Debian is now building this for Debian 11 Bullseye, I have seen nothing on a potential backport as Debian is in the same position as us... it may or may not be possible at all... ever.

Hello,
Finally the developer created the Flatpak, I already installed using the MX Installer, I will test it these days but on the surface it seems to be working fine.
Unfortunately it consumed 1,2GB of my sparse SSD to run a small program.
Hope in the future it will run from standard MX repos.
Regards and Happy Holidays

Hello,
The Flatpak of Cherrytree is working fine on:

Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 wm: kwin_x11
dm: SDDM Distro: MX-19.3_KDE_x64 patito feo
August 16 2020

Regards.

Hello,
I had to reinstall MX Linux 19, so I decided not to install Flatpak. I prefer AppImages packages, but Cherrytree does not have an Appimage, and I do not know how to pack one, I tried to follow Appimage documentation and it is beyond my skills. Is there any news on the availability of 0.99 for the standard repos?
Thanks and regards
joejac

Jaja this is my post 111

What I posted before ...

anticapitalista wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:19 pm
So, as I said, they will not work on 'buster' based Debian derivatives.
You'll have to stick with the 0.39.4 series provided by MX/antiX (Debian does not even provide any cherrytree debs for buster).

cherrytree 0.99 series will come with MX/antiX 21 (Debian bullseye) and not sooner.

Does this statement on the referenced site mean that it might now be possible to update Cherrytree for MX-19.3?

" * this (gtkmm3) version can now build on older distributions such as debian 10 / ubuntu 18.04"

ref: https://launchpad.net/~giuspen/+archive ... hive-extra

Any chance? ;-)

@TTwrs thanks for keeping an eye out. I can try to build it later tonight.

But if a anything, if someone can test install that .deb in a VM or something in the meantime that would be cool and maybe save me trouble later.

@TTwrs that version builds no problem, need to test the .deb, will get to it in a few hours or so.

Thanks, @SwampRabbit. Will watch for its appearance in the repo.

@SwampRabbit
Will be happy to test the .deb if needed. I don't do VMs but I can just install and run it. Is there somewhere I can get it?

@TTwrs my bad boss, I was just so busy I forgot to send it for inclusion in the Repos.

You can get it here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zB8Lho ... sp=sharing
Going to send a PM to get it and a few other things added in a minute.

For those that visit this thread, Cherrytree 0.99.38 is now in the MX Test Repo.

As always, use the awesome MX Package Installer > MX Test Repo tab.

Please let us know how it works out for you.
But remember major application issues should be posted to their GitHub and this thread is for announcing the package and issues installing if any.

Thanks for updating the package, SwampRabbit.

@joejac since you were really looking towards the newer Cherrytree on MX-19, I figured I’d mention you here so you directly know it’s available now finally… I know not everyone logs in often.

Thanks. I caught that yesterday. Doing fine here. Still wish they would normalize their paragraph formatting, but apparently it's a fairly big deal.

0.99.38 Seems to be working fine for me.

I didn't like the way it switched everything to a dark theme that seemed to have to be switched back one element at a time (background, text, cursor, highlight color, sidebar tree theme) rather than a simple switch between light and dark. Hopefully it won't happen with every update, and I see there is a way to export/import themes that I might should try.

Other than that, seems to work as expected.

Seems to be running smoothly.
The desire to make the choice of colours more user-friendly and to use something as a starting combination that doesn't make your eyes itch ... :-)

Super fast. I was expecting more changes, but maybe I just haven't looked hard enough.

The icons seem blurry on my system. In fact everything seems a bit blurry. The icons look excessively hinted. Toolbar text isn't hinted at all. Has the jaggies.
The rich text looks OK, but probably only because I have it set kind of large.

I played around with themes & icon themes with no effect.

I know it's probably not the packager's problem, but if you have the build working, can you check on icon size & anti-aliasing?

@TTwrs @JeffA @paul1149 @wdscharff @OKie thank you all for testing.

As far as the theming, icons, and what not. There were no changes made to the upstream packaging. When I installed and tested it very briefly in a MX-19 VM, I didn’t notice anything different from the previous versions.

It may be worth checking their GitHub to see if there are any open related issues.

I won’t be able to package any updated versions for at least a week and a half due to real life work.

Version 0.99.15 supposedly introduced: "Icons for the icon theme can be overridden placing in ~/.config/cherrytree/icons...". I installed 0.99.38 (in MX-Linux 19.4) and copied the icons from 0.38.4 to the specified directory. However, after doing this, running 0.99.38 still uses it's native icon set. Was wondering if anyone has tried this and perhaps found a way to make this work. I prefer the old, less cramped icons.

Also, the bottom statusbar is only half-height so only the top half of the text is visible. Has anyone else noticed this. Might just be a problem with the theme I'm using.

TTwrs wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:43 am Version 0.99.15 supposedly introduced: "Icons for the icon theme can be overridden placing in ~/.config/cherrytree/icons...". I installed 0.99.38 (in MX-Linux 19.4) and copied the icons from 0.38.4 to the specified directory. However, after doing this, running 0.99.38 still uses it's native icon set. Was wondering if anyone has tried this and perhaps found a way to make this work. I prefer the old, less cramped icons.

Also, the bottom statusbar is only half-height so only the top half of the text is visible. Has anyone else noticed this. Might just be a problem with the theme I'm using.

I was just wondering about replacing the icons. You can do custom icons for each bullet point in the tree, and the selection is limited. Does it say if there are format or size restrictions for the icon files?
There's a file ~/.config/cherrytree/config.cfg that has a toolbar_icon_size line. However, changing it seems to have no effect. I can't find any control in the program to change this.

My statusbar looks fine on XFCE.

Status bar is fine here on KDE.

@OKie and @paul1149 :
Thanks for the check on the statusbar. It must be the theme I'm using. If I decide to stick with the upgrade I'll look for a workaround.

I contacted the author about the toolbar icons but haven't heard back.

Thank you everyone, but let’s try keep this thread focused on the packaging and major issues that would require a package update.

If you want to troubleshoot the other kinds of things more, let’s break it off to a different thread please.

I played around with the ~/.config/cherrytree/config.cfg . Finally got the toolbar_icon_size to = 3. Can someone else check out that configuration file business? No telling what you can do by setting these parameters manually. I think it takes a restart of all instances to take effect.

BTW: repackaging could be expanded to include armhf architecture maybe?

I could do it tomorrow if the other packagers don't have the time.

That would be great!

@Jerry3904 i can work on it for sure, but it’s going to be a week plus as I’m on the road for work right now.

Not in any hurry, thanks.

Hmmm--I see that the existing MX debian folder is mostly based on the one the source ships with, but if the source requires at least Buster gtkmm to build, the debian folder can stand a lot of modernizing up to at least debhelper 10--for example, you really don't have to have all those libraries as Depends explicitly listed when the dh-shlibdeps variable adds them automatically, and you don't need to have --parallel or with-cmake in the rules file either--it's all automatic. I think we should send those changes back upstream to the developer.

I have the armhf packages attemping to build with those changes, but since it's a -B build, the existing debian tarball will stay in the repo. It just makes us look better to all the cool packagers hanging around the street corner to have a modern one

Here's the armhf deb (link self-destructs in 24 hours) if you want to test it early. https://wormhole.app/aR4zo#Rp7YzJLLUlTJyu5rMwgf7A

We also need all the MX 21 builds done, amiright?

0.99.38 installs and runs fine, merci.

If you mean all the MX-21 Pi builds: our current arch is 32bit, but I have a 64bit version that RPi has for testing and it is running OK. Seems is clear that they intend to make an official release sometime.

Thanks @SwampRabbit