A Great Review/Deep-Dive into Debian 13

[Nokkaelaein]

didn't have a live session to Gpart of course...

They have a LOAD of official live ISOs available, for different DEs and so on https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/13 ... so-hybrid/

[tascoast]

didn't have a live session to Gpart of course...

They have a LOAD of official live ISOs available, for different DEs and so on https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/13 ... so-hybrid/

Of course, I just grabbed the Gnome/xfce combo. I'm sure I would like using it and likely will look at Kali, for example, but that's just a comparison to MX. Getting a live iso might have been easier for first look set-up but I've seen a lot less friendly installers too,, Mint in particular, UI polish aside.

[AA BB]

... content was most likely written by AI. It ... has a plagiarism score of 85% probability and a written by AI score of 90%.

The "plagiarism score" should be 100% since everything was "plagiarized" from the Debian release notes.
How is it possible to report factual Debian info without plagiarizing its released info ?

By implication, you are suggesting that MX-Forum posts having an AI scores greater than some number should be censored.

[siamhie]

How is it possible to report factual Debian info without plagiarizing its released info ?

Just post links to where you get information from. I tend to bookmark stuff posted to the forum (that has links to it), so that I can read it at my time.

[tascoast]

I worked with and now study cert level but have 2 Ba and a Ma, but good with a tractor, mechanics or propagation too! I am quite familiar with the academic integrity framework, as well as debates around AI. It is useful for grammar checking but the most important thing is that accredited courses deliver learning outcomes by scaffolding material, such that not engaging and taking shortcuts means you miss a lot and will never progress to higher education expectations and realities without a serious change in direction and approach and some critical thinking.

Even at cert 4 level, formal referencing is not expected but a link or some acknowledgement is needed, although many answers are simple lines, like name the legislation for privacy....

I delivered a range of workshops or informally encouraged,on the usual topics, breaking down questions, organizing files and folders, how to quote and paraphrase (only rare nursing or vet students Diploma upwards needed APA 7 or similar and teaching were very fussy, given the trajectory of these programs), plagiarism and others.

A link is helpful, as are readme.md files or code comments, or case notes, another thing I have a lot of experience in producing.

To give an analogy, I see a lot of camper groups online complain that a poster omitted the state, we, like a few colonials, have multiple Richmonds, Oatlands..., or other home country designations.

As we face another existential crisis, truth or AI, connecting information and provenance, veracity and version control will matter. It's what we do, if bloody badly, now, with many unfortunate and harmful consequences. That's what media studies taught me in this multi-point to multi-point communication clusterfest we have now.

Paging Snopes 2.1....

[Melber]

The "plagiarism score" should be 100% since everything was "plagiarized" from the Debian release notes.
How is it possible to report factual Debian info without plagiarizing its released info ?

By writing "from the Debian release notes" at the top before copy-pasting the long blurb.
Simply adding a link to the release notes instead of the blurb would also be sufficient.

[tascoast]

When is a post just an advertorial? Much mainstream media is a space where news and advertising have become indistinguishable and we have long been editing movies to engineer product placement or replacement, or apply virtual advertising layers to track and field sporting events.

without some rules....
ref: viewtopic.php?p=255061#p255061
QED :)

IP gets a mention in there...

[tascoast]

By writing "from the Debian release notes" at the top before copy-pasting the long blurb.
Simply adding a link to the release notes instead of the blurb would also be sufficient.

I like it.
Lock in Option B, 50 words and a link to more is the block tile way, right?

A bit of simple UX feedback from trying it works too.

As an aside, W3 Schools is great example of scaffolding learning, in their lessons.

[asqwerth]

For me, providing the link to the source is not so much about whether it's plagiarism/copyright breach to not provide it, but so that the reader can assess the correctness/accuracy of the relevant statement I'm making:

- is the source I'm using reliable?
- did I interpret/understand the source correctly?

I also do it for external images that I post on this forum.

It just seems considerate to me.

[tascoast]

For me, providing the link to the source is not so much about whether it's plagiarism/copyright breach to not provide it, but so that the reader can assess the correctness/accuracy of the relevant statement I'm making:

- is the source I'm using reliable?
- did I interpret/understand the source correctly?

I also do it for external images that I post on this forum.

It just seems considerate to me.

Wise words I think, and really good points.

The point about image citation is easily understood as a publishing convention and academic requirement, when applied there.

see: https://apastyle.apa.org/style-grammar- ... es/figures
or
https://www.stylemanual.gov.au/content- ... les-images for online and accessibility considerations that would make many posts and information sources invisible to someone relying upon a screen-reader, for example.