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i_ri wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 4:46 pm Hello Jakob77
shallower than shallow level
sample data
from somewhere below the status bar
humor
imagineering
a mouse parking garage
that starts pseudo screensaver
escapade.

save to /home/$USER directory.
Properties. Permissions. Allow to run as a program
save file /rkgr

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#!
feh /usr/share/pixmaps/xfce4_xicon3.png &
sleep 1s
xdotool search --name /usr/share/pixmaps/xfce4_xicon3.png behave %@ mouse-enter exec ~/rkgrt

save to /home/$USER directory.
Properties. Permissions. Allow to run as a program
save file /rkgrt

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#!
/usr/bin/xfce4-screensaver-preferences &sleep 1.4s &&xdotool key Shift+Tab Shift+Tab Return mousemove 690 230

run command <~/rkgr>
feh is normal window in taskbar; move; shrink.

Mouse Rollover feh image triggers pseudo screensaver.

Click top right to close pseudo screensaver or alt+L to back out or, it is a window, work with it running, trial alt+Tab to cycle windows on the animated desktop. amusement. (?) or amusement only. (?)
Can you work with that sample? control borderless feh geometry? Entertain your next Launcher?

Thank you.

If you can give me a name of the "mouse cursor activated Panel plugin program executor" I might be able to find it and install it.

If you believe your mod after a few steps more will turn into a main stream Xfce Panel plugin I will work on it in spite of not having much skill for it.
It is hopefully not too shallow to think about the goal before you take a deep dive.

I will think more about it but if it is just another advanced modification in sudo-zone to meet my personal demand half way I don't want to spend time on it. Never say never but I do a lot to avoid that kind of mods. Home Automation might force me to change my mind for a while later but at the moment I have none and I don't want any.
You may laugh at it but it is a part of my security strategy on my main computer to keep the configuration simple and stable.



We can configure the Panel to hide automatically but when we slam the mouse cursor towards the edge it reacts.
My intuition tells me that means there could be an already existing trigger that can be used also to trigger execution of an other program. Perhaps that could be used as a shortcut for someone who knows the Xfce Panel. I don't know, I just try to inspire and initiate more good thoughts about it.

CharlesV wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:45 pm I love cario dock

It is a matter of taste but I better warn you I am thinking about how I can make you love a clean Xfce more. Up for wrestle.?
Well it might not be needed because I am sure you want the best for Xfce so it is more just about drawing your attention.
If we begin to share Xfce Panels almost like wallpaper it might increase focus and speed up some further developments.

MX Panelbackup file
( just one small file )

~/.icons
(just one folder containing the icons used in the panel)

~/bin/panel-commandscript.sh
(for some panel launcher commands)


Can you see it.?
Maybe it will be too complicated for most users to make but not necessarily to test and use.



A conky mounted in a Panel. .. no, that I have not seen yet.

Jakob77 wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:39 pm

CharlesV wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:45 pm I love cario dock

It is a matter of taste but I better warn you I am thinking about how I can make you love a clean Xfce more. Up for wrestle.?
Well it might not be needed because I am sure you want the best for Xfce so it is more just about drawing your attention.
If we begin to share Xfce Panels almost like wallpaper it might increase focus and speed up some further developments.

MX Panelbackup file
( just one small file )

~/.icons
(just one folder containing the icons used in the panel)

~/bin/panel-commandscript.sh
(for some panel launcher commands)

Can you see it.?
Maybe it will be too complicated for most users to make but not necessarily to test and use.

A conky mounted in a Panel. .. no, that I have not seen yet.

Nope, been there.. done that.

I used to run four panels, and that did work. Where it broke down was in my VERY structured Clients and Data folders, with deep trees. (as in 12 or 14 levels deep and even deeper!)

With a panel - I could only get one level deep, so I could "Open Clients" ... and then search for one of my 90+ folders for a specific client, then drop down into Work, choose the year, choose the project, choose the folder for code, docs, notes, issues, etc. And the same thing with my SVN document and code areas.


With Cario - I can hover over the Client folder, see and pick a client and 1 click I am in that folder. Or hover over the Data folder and choose a direction to go (Docs, Websites, Code, etc... Or .. just go to the projects folder and again 1 click and I am where i want to be. I found with top level navigation I am approx 3 clicks away from any place I want to be in hundreds of folders. And with my file structure, those 3 clicks can drop me 10 to 12 levels deep too.

Additionally, I have one, very sexy, launcher with 16 aps, 6 top level folders and anything else I want RIGHT at one click (all hidden, until I want it)

Hands down, cleaner, faster working for me and shexy!

CharlesV

The scanning (spying) is a thing I don't like so it is a good example of different taste.
But Xfce can do some of it too.
You can install the program with the blue icon with a house shown under the green lock in my right panel.
I have danish menu but it might be called 'Places'.
It has a list. I don't believe it can compete yet but maybe it is not that far away.?
It also has a history log you can clear. That is all I use it for because to my frustration I have not found a way to do it automatically yet.

My pop up panel in the bottom is sometimes in the way when I use Ctrl+f in Firefox.
Therefor I have narrowed it some more and moved it further to the right. You can do that with Xfce. :-)

I am almost done making a new senior test setup and the panels in the screenshot from the first post is very close to what I use.
viewtopic.php?p=738598#p738598

I am exited to see how it goes but like I wrote a downside to it is that it takes more attention to hit the application close button in title bar.

Is there a way to make it bigger.?

I can make the text larger in the title bar but the bar and the buttons do not follow.

I guess not. I should maybe have chosen a lower screen resolution to begin with, and that could have saved some adjustments.
But we also have:

Right click on title bar --> Close

If nothing else I will just introduce that to the shakiest hands in the West.

Jakob77 wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:29 am I am almost done making a new senior test setup and the panels in the screenshot from the first post is very close to what I use.
viewtopic.php?p=738598#p738598

I am exited to see how it goes but like I wrote a downside to it is that it takes more attention to hit the application close button in title bar.

Is there a way to make it bigger.?

I can make the text larger in the title bar but the bar and the buttons do not follow.

On my machines, if you make the panel row size bigger then the icons grow. Is that what you mean?

CharlesV wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:09 pm On my machines, if you make the panel row size bigger then the icons grow. Is that what you mean?

That might also be needed later and is easy to change.

But this is about the application window (on the screenshot it is Gedit) and it's close button in the upper right corner. I want to make it bigger.


I believe it is called the Windows Manager but my menu is in danish:

There I can make the title letters bigger but there is a limit because the title bar and the buttons do not grow with the text.
Maybe there is also an easy way to make the bar and buttons grow, I just cant find it.

If there's a Kokodi theme in the Window Manager Settings on your setup it has bigger buttons than the one you're using now.
If you change through all those themes you'll see some have bigger buttons than others, some may also allow you to display the Window Text at different locations along the Title Bar.
The buttons are images in the theme itself I believe.

Remember the other thread where we talked about modding Appearance themes etc.?
I've done the same with my Window Manager theme, made a copy, renamed it externally and internally so it doesn't get overwritten with updates, then changed what I wanted to suit, in this case the colour of the borders (images), the font and made the buttons bigger (also images) so I don't keep hitting the wrong one all the time

As for Conky's in the Panel I haven't tried that yet, but I have been using Conky's beside my panels for years.
6 panels and 2 Conky's in the pic below, the time, CPU and RAM are Conky's I made years ago.
The 2 rows of launchers are each a separate panel.
The date, internet speed, notification plugin and window buttons are all on separate panels.

Jakob77 wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:04 am

CharlesV wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:09 pm On my machines, if you make the panel row size bigger then the icons grow. Is that what you mean?

That might also be needed later and is easy to change.

But this is about the application window (on the screenshot it is Gedit) and it's close button in the upper right corner. I want to make it bigger.


I believe it is called the Windows Manager but my menu is in danish:

Vinduhandtering.jpg


There I can make the title letters bigger but there is a limit because the title bar and the buttons do not grow with the text.
Maybe there is also an easy way to make the bar and buttons grow, I just cant find it.

Ah, sorry I misunderstood. Yes, if you cannot make the window controls large enough using a certain theme or changing the font size, there is a way to modify the controls directly, and create what ever you want. (graphic or just size etc.) .

I wrote up "how to" here viewtopic.php?t=73562 and it works pretty well. Simple if all your after is larger sizes ,but you can do A LOT if you really want. And, depending up on the theme your starting with, you can enlarge graphics or replace them too. (Some themes use graphics, most use a PixMap method to define the symbols.)