The ONE thing I miss in Linux

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Re: The ONE thing I miss in Linux

#21 Post by Stevo »

Awwww...using a Krita appimage when we have the current 4.3.0 release in main? Is there something wrong with our version?

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Re: The ONE thing I miss in Linux

#22 Post by tascoast »

PSP under Wine still works for me, especially with the thumbnail browse capacity.
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Re: The ONE thing I miss in Linux

#23 Post by Crojav »

figueroa wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:42 pm But, as with any other super powerful program, there is a learning curve those of you who are complaining have been unwilling to undertake. screenshotthumb.jpg https://2chronicles36.org/screenshot.jpg
Unwilling? More as to make a decent decision witch other powerful program needs my attention first, second - and start with there learning curve. Not much time and attention left for Gimp. In that scenario it's handy to have a intuitive program witch helps you.

For your interest? I work with Krita with Xp-pen. Most of my other work is done in Inkscape. And use scripts to handle all kind of action from out of Inkscape. I realy like to mention Inkscape, it's more or less also a powerful program, but is has a direct intuitive starting point. The same for Krita.

My complain to Gimp, for me it's not intuitive.

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Re: The ONE thing I miss in Linux

#24 Post by wdscharff »

Stevo wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:08 am Awwww...using a Krita appimage when we have the current 4.3.0 release in main? Is there something wrong with our version?
No, nothing wrong.
Usually I use programs that are "lighter". But I like to try and only for testing I prefer appimages, they are easier to remove :-)
(after my experiences with apt autoremove I became more careful)

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Re: The ONE thing I miss in Linux

#25 Post by asqwerth »

For simple scribbling and drawing, you can also try azpainter in the repos.

I recall Stevo used to specially package it because it was a surprisingly small package for its capabilities.

https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter

I think it's not too difficult to work out how to use it. Right clicking on various options/tools does bring up usage hints.
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Re: The ONE thing I miss in Linux

#26 Post by oops »

asqwerth wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:57 am For simple scribbling and drawing, you can also try azpainter in the repos. ...
... Yes nice light image tool too.
I use here, Gimp, (MTpaint , and probably AZpainter too now for light tasks), and for photo: XnwiewMP.
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Re: The ONE thing I miss in Linux

#27 Post by srq2625 »

I'm very surprised to not see darktable being mentioned. This is a very well appointed RAW file developer/editor - once one gets past the learning curve.

But, this is only really applicable if one is shooting RAW format. Yes, you can manipulate JPG (and other format) images, but it is designed for working with RAW format data.

Before I got out of the business, I shot, developed, and delivered wedding photographs using darktable. Very stable, very powerful. And, many of the development steps can be scripted and applied to groups of photos (as large a group as you like).

Finally, all edits are saved as meta data - the RAW file is not touched by darktable. Must like Lightroom (from Adobe), darktable exports it's product as the result of applying operations to the data in the RAW file and writing the result to another file.

I have used (and still have a valid license for) AfterShot. Good product and very fast (faster than darktable) and also works by applying operations against RAW file data and writing the result of a different file - not touching the RAW file.
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Re: The ONE thing I miss in Linux

#28 Post by wdscharff »

The Raw Converter in Aftershot is the former Bibble, was purchased. So as with Adobe Lightroom, until v4 the raw converter was the competing product rawshooter, which was bought from the market. To be more precise, Adobe did not have a separate raw converter in 2006.
I found xxxxx, I had a rawshooter license ;-)
Luckily, RawTherapee, a powerful successor, at that time still closed source and windows only (but free to use), was released soon. Potent regarding the possibilities and the quality of the results, the processing speed was between very slow and catastrophic until v3.x. Just like with LightZone even today, when more than 10-15 more complex processing modules are active in the processing stack.
If you're satisfied, that's good. I was going to buy Bibble, but then they were taken over by Corel. My experiences with Correl products, stability, support, were ambivalent. May have changed of course, my experiences are older than 10 years

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Re: The ONE thing I miss in Linux

#29 Post by figueroa »

Crojav wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:15 am For your interest? I work with Krita with Xp-pen. Most of my other work is done in Inkscape. And use scripts to handle all kind of action from out of Inkscape. I realy like to mention Inkscape, it's more or less also a powerful program, but is has a direct intuitive starting point. The same for Krita.

My complain to Gimp, for me it's not intuitive.
Fair enough. If you use Inkscape, a powerful vector graphic program, you're no slouch. I use it too, when I need to work with vector graphic images, which I find not intuitive, but manageable, yet still frightening. GIMP and Inkscape complement each other. I agree, GIMP has a learning curve, kind of like vi. You have to figure out it's conventions to get started. But after using GIMP since near it's beginning (circa 1998), it is obviously intuitive to me. Twenty years ago when I had to use Photoshop under Windows, I found IT difficult and counter-intuitive with so many choices in the menus that I didn't understand. But now, I wouldn't use Photoshop if it was free and open source.

GIMP probably has the most on-line help of ALL programs, with an exhaustive manual, tutorials, and too-many-to-count third party sites with GIMP examples, hints, tricks and other helps. I'm definitely a GIMP fan-boy. I also use Imagemagick from the command-line many other command-line image processing tools for big production jobs. Imagemagick is, literally, magic, but no native GUI. That said, a fair number of other image programs use Imagemagick tools to do their heavy lifting.

When smaller drawing or image editing programs suit your needs, they are totally appropriate. But, when they run out of the features or tools that one needs to work with bitmap images, GIMPS is Swiss Army knife of Linux image editing and the learning curve is worth the investment.
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Re: The ONE thing I miss in Linux

#30 Post by Snod Blatter »

Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:43 pm Install Hotshots, open the image in the editor. Arrow easily done.

Resize an image: open the image in Nomacs, same for cropping. You can do the resize and cropping in the Hotshots editor as well, just checked.
The editor for Hotshots actually looks great, it's almost a shame it's hidden behind a screenshot utility!

Many alternatives being suggested here, I'll have a look at azpainter as well..
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