MX Linux Forum

richb wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:53 pm

Mauser wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:41 pm I can see the idea of asking for a supported KDE version of MX Linux after reading about the talk about the direction of Xfce with CSD on top of that the Xfce developers broke the right click in Xfce 4.14 with that annoying scrolling menu that moves inadvertently resulting in an unwanted selection. If the Xfce goes in the wrong direction with future versions of Xfce it would be easier for the MX developers to go with another desktop environment if need be than to deal with all the hassles. KDE, Mate, etc but definitely not Gnome would be good to take in consideration. The only thing I see holding back KDE is that it has no Whisker menu or any menu that comes close to it. From the comments, the MX developers look busy enough the way it is and if anyone wants KDE it can be easily installed from the repos.

Close enough?

No, that looks like Windows 95, 98se, me, and 2000 menu.

Works for me. But all about choice. That is why I posed it as a question.

I wasn't clear enough in my OP that my question was directed primarily at the devs. It is they who would bear the burden of developing and maintaining a new MX edition. Though I find everyone's perspective interesting, I am not trying to marshal popular support for a new edition, against the choice of the devs in the matter. They are the ones that do the work, and what they say, goes, and I totally respect that and the reasons behind it.

Perhaps, though, the discussion can be edifying, to see how people feel about the current DE and where things might go. But no pressure was meant on my part. :)

Be well.

muxh better since my xanax kicked in. thanks.

Wondered about this myself, especially after noticing that most of the MX apps are QT rather than GTK and many of the devs have been around since the Mepis (a KDE distro) days.

This user suggests, please don't distract the developers. They are doing a great job. This is a fine distribution the way it is. I would be sad to see it mucked up. Anyone wanting a different DE, should install it and tailor it to their liking.

richb wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:53 pm Close enough?

Its not too bad actually, I thought KDE had a Windows 10 like menu or at least one distro I saw last.

anticapitalista wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:53 pm To add.

MX devs have high standards.
Any successful MX-kde the devs would expect it to be of the same standard as the Xfce version.
That means MX tools for kde - who is going to write them? Who is going to maintain them? Who is going to test them? Who is going to translate them?
The MX manual would also need to updated to include kde - Who is going to write it? Who is going to translate it?

You can see how much work is involved.

I could not agree more.

Just to add my personal opinion on the matter, as someone who has, for several years, used MX Linux and maintained KDE Desktop Environments on it for friends and family -- I Love MX Linux with the XFCE Desktop! I think that MX Linux already does one thing well, and there is no need to go astray. I never did like KDE until I came to MX Linux and tried one of Adrian's respins, and my friends and family were wondering what I was running and how I could get them off Windoze, and I've been larnin' 'em on MX Linux with KDE ever since! I mean, no one can deny that Plasma is pretty. But no. I don't think the devs should waste their time with all that nonsense. There is no better way to learn than to make your own respin, and it really isn't that hard to install the KDE Desktop, boot into it and strip out all the XFCE elements. For those who do not wish to do it themselves there are community respins. I even made one myself and made a thread about it: viewtopic.php?f=127&t=56880 . If anyone expresses interest, and I find the time, I'll put up a General Snapshot too. I did make one. But yeah... Part of the joy of playing with Linux is playing with different Desktop Environments and Window Managers; but if people want to switch it up on the same OS they should probably start with Vanilla Debian or Vanilla Arch. MX Linux already is a thing! There is a certain workflow to XFCE that I like, so I prefer the devs stick with that. There is a certain pizzazz to MX Linux running KDE, and many of my friends and family love it! So, I've maintained MX-KDE respins for awhile. I did try many of the other community respins, including Mike Jade's (very few quirks with his - nice job!); but the Personal Respin I put up on Sourceforge the other day is still the best MX-KDE Respin I've used to date: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mx-19-1-kde-by-jki/

Enough outtah me! Just keep doing what you're doing! All your work is fantastic. Leave the getting side-tracked thing to others, like my ADHD self!

forgive the probable stupidity of my question

i have several laptops ... on my first I installed KDE and got it the way I liked

i then used the same snapshot on several other laptops... so the snapshot has the default xfce, KDE plasma and fluxbox on it

if I want to make a snapshot - spin that is KDE only, how would I go about that?

do I have to delete all things XFCE related and go from there?

this is only important in terms of creating a spin, since I am real happy to have all 3 environments on my own laptop but i have friends that i think would prefer KDE Plasma and desktop options would confuse the beejayzus out of them

if I want to make a snapshot - spin that is KDE only, how would I go about that?

do I have to delete all things XFCE related and go from there?

Yes, snapshot is creating a copy of your system, you can exclude some files but in general whatever you have on the computer you have on the snapshot, there's no mechanism to exclude entire packages even less entire desktops environments.
(BTW, for full customization and to make sure new accounts get the right customization you might need to play with /etc/skel files)