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I generally like the new icon set a lot, but have a problem with less popular applications for which no icons have been built. As a for-instance, compare these two screen shots of Bluefish (the html editor I use a lot), the one showing faenza-cupertino full and the other mini. As you can see, the mini icons on the second bar down are indistinguishable from each other. Is there a way to bring in cupertino full icons for such applications? Or some other similar solution?

I like Gnome-Brave

I wanted a bigger Icon for Logout. This was fairly easy to enlarge by using the 48 pixel choice. Perhaps there is a setting in Bluefish somewhere, maybe?

That was just an example.

I'd like to hear from Henry on this, but it seems to me that *completeness* is a big differentiator when it comes to icon sets. In other words, apart from the workmanship of the icons themselves, you can tell a good quality icon set from a flash-in-the-pan icon set by the depth of its application coverage.

That said, even those with deep coverage can't cover all applications (as is the case with Faenza-Cupertino-mini). And some applications, like google-chrome-stable for example, make it even more difficult to produce a consistent icon "look" because they insist on overriding the icon-set-in-use and placing their old icons in certain scenarios such as the "Window Buttons" (aka Task List) versus "Launchers" in xfce4.

Unless hard drive space is a consideration, I see nothing wrong with installing cupertino full and thus bringing in Faenza as well, instead of just cupertino mini.

Or we could add any missing icons to the mini package, though this could end up a never-ending task.

I've applied both the mini and the full cupertino sets to my MX system, and it's very visible that the smaller icons in "mini" are of lower resolution than in cupertino full.

Open Thunar and look at the blue folders in the home directory in "Detailed List" view, using both icon sets. Also, as Jerry found in his bluefish example (can also be seen in Thunar), the navigation icons for mini looked smudged up or smeary.

Since faenza and cupertino full are already in the MX repos, I think they are a better choice for MX than mini, since it is no longer a must that the iso file fit on a CD.

Also, the user then gets the choice of blue folders with cupertino full, or yellow-brown folders by choosing faenza.

I am ok with Gnome-Brave as well, but think the faenza family looks more modern without being a trend-of-the-season thing.

I've got the same problem to tell the mini icons apart on smaller screens. Have to try the full cupertino for awhile before having an opinion about it. Don't know in detail how it differs when it comes to icons for the different apps.
We've already got a few icons of our own that was more suited to go with the old icon set. Maybe we must flatten them?
Henry

... Don't know in detail how it differs when it comes to icons for the different apps.
We've already got a few icons of our own that was more suited to go with the old icon set. Maybe we must flatten them?...

I think the main difference is the navigation buttons (e.g. back, forward, up one level, home).

Mini uses dark grey square buttons within which is some light coloured navigation symbol, while Faenza + cupertino just has the navigation symbols in a black/dark colour with no background.

Other than that I believe the differences are:

1. the resolution of the smaller icons in mini is lower;

2. the fact that faenza-cupertino isn't a complete set and depends on faenza. Faenza-Cupertino merely contains blue-coloured folders and other icons that were recoloured or improved on. Everything else is standard faenza, but that can be seen as a good thing because faenza is quite a complete set.


MX's own icons - instead of flattening them, another possibility is to set them within black/dark squares, like the MX logo? That will give them a similar shape to faenza.

As an aside, faenza isn't really all that flat compared to the REALLY flat ones in vogue right now, like Numix or Moka. Everywhere, UI elements are all flatter, eg. Plasma 5, Win 8, Android, recent iOS, so I guess the icons have to match that.

http://www.maketecheasier.com/5-beautif ... for-linux/

faenza isn't really all that flat compared to the REALLY flat ones in vogue right now

The next thing will probably be intaglio icons.
I think we have to accept some deviations. It's more what's working than having the perfect set. Unrecognizable icons is in my opinion not the most optimal solution.
Henry

This may just be an individual problem, and I have solved it by switching to faenza-cupertino. Generally better for my big-ish screen from which I sit back.

installing cupertino full and thus bringing in Faenza

After using it for a very short time, I'm leaning towards cupertino full with Faenza. Isn't it better for work than the mini? Have to switch a little between them to compare.
Henry

I've got a custom dpi that may effect Icons. Not sure. I run 110 dpi. Will that change Icons? Anyway I was very impressed with the new Icons that came with 14.4. I installed a couple of sets after reading some of the discussion concerning them. But I really like the colorful default ones a lot.

I should mention my LCD is a 23" Widescreen.

I don't know if this is the correct thread about the new xfce Faenza-Cupertino icons, but this is the only thread I could find on this topic.
My ethernet icon on the notification area always shows a disconnected icon.
When I right click it and select connection information I get:
"Error displaying connection information - no valid connections found!"
I attached an image of the notification area with the ethernet icon and the error dialog as mentioned above.
I'm online now. Is there something wrong with the icon, my connection, or the ethernet mini-app itself?

Mine is doing the same thing. I assume this is caused by the upgrade to xfce 4.12 as I'm certain it used to show a little monitor icon that indicated a positive connection.

Working OK for me in 14.4. What shows when you right click on it and pick Edit Connections?

The dialog box is blank - empty

I assume the wireless tab is blank as well.

There is no wired connection shown when I click Edit Connections. I've never had to do anything before using MX and an Ethernet connection. I'm somewhat unnerved by the thought of trying to fix this when it has me connected.

This is a step backwards.
Right clicking and choosing 'Connection information' gets me the error message. And yes, Wireless is also blank.

If you think it is due to the new icon theme, then revert back to gnome-brave and see if it fixes the issue.
You will probably need to logout for it to show.

Curious. Can others confirm they have the same issue? I do not.

richb wrote:I assume the wireless tab is blank as well.

Yes, I'm on a desktop PC at home. It has no wireless adapter.

My netbook, also has MX 14.4 and it shows "Wired connection 1" if I plug in an ethernet cable to the same router as my desktop above. It Also shows my SSID's under wireless.
My netbook's wired connection shows the IP addresses in connection information.

After Logging in and out after each change I made I can say it's probably not connected to Icons (I tried several), the xfce4-theme-manager, or the xfce4-cellmodem-plugin.