MX-23_fluxbox_alpha2_x64 released for testing

[Melber]

@Melber @ceeslans @kobaian I am not a fan of the default panel's treatment of the taskbar, especially when nothing is open, as one big blob. Take a look at simpleclean, where the subtle gradation (dedicated background) makes it apparent that two workspaces exist without using names (W1, etc.) as I did at the beginning and no longer like. Anybody else else interested in adopting that for tint2?

Issue hasn't really occured to me because I only have one workspace and thus one big blob.

I am not a fan of gradients.
Wouldn't a slightly lighter background tone for the active workspace be enough? Or even just a vertical line to divide the two?

will try and mock up a couple of variants.

[siamhie]

Yep, I'm an idiot, forgot the logout/login requirement to update systray icons.
Still, no matter what the icon theme, the clipman icon remains oversized compared to the other systray icons.

I found an easier way when testing MX21-fluxbox. Open the tint2 settings and click on 'Edit the selected theme'. Select panel on the left and scroll to the bottom. Change the option for Maximized windows to "Match the hidden panel size" and save.

Is it this setting?

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# System tray (notification area)
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strut_policy = follow_size/minimum/none

@Melber No. The solution I found is in regards to the tooltips showing below the toolbar (network icon and volume icon ( I think)). https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 26#p723626

tint2rc - systemtray issues
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tooltips displaying below bottom screen edge.
solution:
- create new background #8 for systray only:
with 2 px top+bottom border and colors

If you were to manually edit the tint2rc file then this is the line to look for. (took me awhile just now to figure this out through the rc file way)

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strut_policy = follow_size

to this (under the panel section)

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strut_policy = minimum

[ceeslans]

@Melber @ceeslans @kobaian I am not a fan of the default panel's treatment of the taskbar, especially when nothing is open, as one big blob. Take a look at simpleclean, where the subtle gradation (dedicated background) makes it apparent that two workspaces exist without using names (W1, etc.) as I did at the beginning and no longer like. Anybody else else interested in adopting that for tint2?

I dont' see the 'blob' in this. Just like @Melber , I usually have only one workspace, sometimes two, but mostly only one active. If needed to switch to another, I use a keybinding (rather than mousewheel). In additon: I can stand (or rather: understand) the use of icons-only for tasks in a vertical panel - but not in a horizontal panel. For me they need to show a name too; it makes viewing and selecting tasks easier. That and I'm a text-addict.

You could consider to make the panel auto-size, ie to grow/shrink with each activated/closed task, tray-icon or other started panel items. See below composed screenshot.

[kobaian]

@Melber @ceeslans @kobaian I am not a fan of the default panel's treatment of the taskbar, especially when nothing is open, as one big blob. Take a look at simpleclean, where the subtle gradation (dedicated background) makes it apparent that two workspaces exist without using names (W1, etc.) as I did at the beginning and no longer like. Anybody else else interested in adopting that for tint2?

One of the first steps I do after installing new MXFB is bringing back the names of workspaces to the panel. This is much more comfortable to me and also more consistent with the rest of the fluxbox quasi-environment (middle-click workspaces-menu in Fluxbox, Rofi window-tab etc.)

[Melber]

Change this

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strut_policy = follow_size

to this (under the panel section)

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strut_policy = minimum

@siamhie Yeah sorry, I meant of course in the panel config section. Had systray in my head because I was being harassed by a giant paperclip...

When I set strut_policy to minimum I have the problem that windows maximise over the top of the panel, which I do not like at all. Does this happen for you too?

Reading in the tint2 manpage

strut_policy = follow_size/minimum/none
...
- minimum means that the maximized windows always expand to have a common edge with the hidden panel. This is useful if the autohide option is enabled.
...
autohide = boolean (0 or 1) : Whether to enable panel hiding when the mouse cursor exists the panel.
...
autohide_height = integer : panel height (width for vertical panels) in hidden mode.

I have autohide = 0 (hiding disabled) and autohide_height = 2

Am wondering if setting autohide_height = 45 (same height as in panel_size) would fix the maximised window size. Won't be able to check myself until later tonight...

[siamhie]

@siamhie Yeah sorry, I meant of course in the panel config section. Had systray in my head because I was being harassed by a giant paperclip...

When I set strut_policy to minimum I have the problem that windows maximise over the top of the panel, which I do not like at all. Does this happen for you too?

Reading in the tint2 manpage

strut_policy = follow_size/minimum/none
...
- minimum means that the maximized windows always expand to have a common edge with the hidden panel. This is useful if the autohide option is enabled.
...
autohide = boolean (0 or 1) : Whether to enable panel hiding when the mouse cursor exists the panel.
...
autohide_height = integer : panel height (width for vertical panels) in hidden mode.

I have autohide = 0 (hiding disabled) and autohide_height = 2

Am wondering if setting autohide_height = 45 (same height as in panel_size) would fix the maximized window size. Won't be able to check myself until later tonight...

No @Melber , quite the opposite. Maximized windows are under the panel. Here's a screenshot with my panel settings open and Librewolf is set to maximized.





EDIT* Here's a better example to show.

[Senpai]

Hi:
After installing and updating "Alpha2" in virtual machine and restarting.

The Tin2 bar is placed on top of the small panel that is already there, although in the configuration it is set as "panel_position = bottom center horizontal".

If I change it to "panel_position = top center horizontal", it is placed at the bottom but it is not saved and when I logout or restart, it returns to be just below the small panel, but it is still on top of the screen...


Greetings

[ceeslans]

@Senpai : this quirk happened after upgrading to the latest fluxbox version 1.3.7+git20220731.
It affects any horizontal tint2 panel width of 100%. There's an easy fix though:
either change the width in panel_size to a lower value (e.g. 99% )

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panel_size = 99% 44

and/or allow a 1 pixel margin at both sides of the panel:

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panel_margin = 1 0 

Hope this helps

[kobaian]

I've just installed mx-23-fb-alpha, and here are my first impressions. Except the problems and errors listed above by others I've noticed that:
1. Even though I like the appfinder-menu, I miss the possibility of customization it using the MX-rofi-manager. I think this option is much more needed for a new user, than the customization of the main Rofi window.
2. I think it will be much more consistent, that the "run" command in FB rootmenu opens rather the rofi-run window, than fbrun.
3. Maybe some information about the appfinder menu should be added to the help tab? And what about the idea of using the standard help - icon from current icon-set instead of ">>" in the help tab?
4. There problem of non-localized submenus of the rootmenu still remains.
5. MX-package-manager icon on the desktop does not work properly. No su-to-root window - just a terminal window instead.
6. The help icon in the dock does nothing after clicking it.

[m_pav]

Just so all you good folk know, I live in NZ (GMT +12) so most of you are active while I'm sleeping, and you all seem to get things sorted before I have a chance to get my hands dirty. I have been watching this thread very closely, taking notes and testing / refreshing my VirtualBox install, rolling it back and watching for updates to come through the repos.

We seem to have a good number of fixes/suggestions come through already, as well as a mxfb and a kernel security update.

I see 2 items from early in the thread that might have been missed, or simply not uploaded yet.

1. Ceeslans Systray fixes and a mxfb-appfinder spelling issue - https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 21#p723621
2. Melbers mxfb-appfinder suggestion - https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 76#p723776