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Re: AV Linux MX Edition 23.1 (AVL-MXe) Released!

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:13 am
by AVLinux
@siamhie

I don't want to say too much yet because the Bodhi guys are working an a Debian based ISO called 'deBodhi' (the devs are super-nice fellas BTW) and it's close to release but not out yet, they also have some scripts in development for installing on a vanilla Debian system.. I tried the script on MX and it did install Bodhi alongside MX-Flux however there are some Package tangles between MX Repos and the Bodhi Repos, for example mx-pipewire-setup removes a lot of Bodhi stuff (including the main theme...oops) because Bodhi still depends on PulseAudio and mx-pipewire-setup wants to remove it, Bodhi also provides their own Debian firmware Repos so there are some duplications in the firmware repositories.. In my trial and error I've come within inches of hosing the test VM several times and spent significant time in the console gluing the pieces back together so until Bodhi actually does their release and until I figure out all of the hot buttons to avoid I'm not going to steal anyone's thunder... Once they go live I'll be happy to test and share!

Re: AV Linux MX Edition 23.1 (AVL-MXe) Released!

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:12 pm
by alextone
Gradually settling into our new reality....

Re: AV Linux MX Edition 23.1 (AVL-MXe) Released!

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:42 pm
by AVLinux
Wow @alextone !

Impressive! If anyone will stress test PipeWire it's you, very glad and relieved to see you're getting big things done with it... Lol, maybe show that screenshot on Linuxmusicians... might impress the grumps who are double mad at me...lol

Re: AV Linux MX Edition 23.1 (AVL-MXe) Released!

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:08 am
by alextone
AVLinux wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:42 pm Wow @alextone !

Impressive! If anyone will stress test PipeWire it's you, very glad and relieved to see you're getting big things done with it... Lol, maybe show that screenshot on Linuxmusicians... might impress the grumps who are double mad at me...lol
I've just posted it over there. Not a bad view I think. And that's just the small test orchestra.....

mpv and pipewire (Re: AV Linux MX Edition 23.1 (AVL-MXe) Released!)

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:12 am
by anahata
Fresh AV MX installation here!
If I play an MP4 video file with mpv (the default video player) it plays at about 1/4 speed with stuttery audio.
I have found out that FIrefox will play it fine, and so will vlc (which I had to install to try it)
MPV says it's using pipewire for audio output. If I tell it to use 'pulse' on the command line I now find it works perfectly too.

So:
- should mpv work with pipewire, and if so, how do I make it play smoothly?
- Alternatively, is there a way to configure mpv to default to pulseaudio (or perhaps straight to ALSA, I haven't tried that)

Re: mpv and pipewire (Re: AV Linux MX Edition 23.1 (AVL-MXe) Released!)

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:43 am
by anahata
anahata wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:12 am If I play an MP4 video file with mpv (the default video player) it plays at about 1/4 speed with stuttery audio.
I have found out that FIrefox will play it fine, and so will vlc (which I had to install to try it)
MPV says it's using pipewire for audio output. If I tell it to use 'pulse' on the command line I now find it works perfectly too.

So:
- should mpv work with pipewire, and if so, how do I make it play smoothly?
- Alternatively, is there a way to configure mpv to default to pulseaudio (or perhaps straight to ALSA, I haven't tried that)
OK, partial solution found: I have created a config file with --audio-device=pulse in it, and that has worked with vlc from the command line (but only after a reboot.)
To get it to work from thunar I had to create a "custom command" for .MP4 files: "mpv --audio-device=pulse".

So that leaves me with a perfectly usable system, but the unanswered (and now slightly academic) question of whether there's a way to make it work with pipewire.

Re: AV Linux MX Edition 23.1 (AVL-MXe) Released!

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:47 am
by AVLinux
Hi anahata!

Welcome! For those who may not know anahata maintains the second mirror for AVL-MXe and has to deal with all my ISO revisions and upload issues... :bagoverhead:

I'm still also learning about the trials and tribulations of PipeWire but at the very least it is supposed to be a drop-in replacement for PulseAudio so as you've found any app that uses PulseAudio should automatically work with PipeWire, to my knowledge almost no applications are written to explicitly use PipeWire, Pulse apps should connect as always and JACK apps will connect to 'pipewire-jack' so the fact that mpv seemingly has a PipeWire backend must be a very new feature, and I haven't set anything up to make it do anything outside it's defaults so I don't have a conclusive answer..

On my system mp4's play as expected with mpv so I wonder if it's a hardware difference involved there as well..? In general things should work pretty seamlessly if set for PulseAudio or JACK backends, I wasn't even aware that things already had PipeWire backends... :confused:

Re: AV Linux MX Edition 23.1 (AVL-MXe) Released!

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:32 am
by FullScale4Me
I fixed several issues other editors cited here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AV_Linux and did some quick updating to reflect AVL 23.1 being available.

FYI - I help maintain the MX Linux and antiX Wikipedia pages (articles).

Glen - anything you note needing updating on the AV Linux Wikipedia article just let me know as my knowledge of AVL is pre-beginner.

Re: AV Linux MX Edition 23.1 (AVL-MXe) Released!

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:36 am
by AVLinux
FullScale4Me wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:32 am I fixed several issues other editors cited here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AV_Linux and did some quick updating to reflect AVL 23.1 being available.

FYI - I help maintain the MX Linux and antiX Wikipedia pages (articles).

Glen - anything you note needing updating on the AV Linux Wikipedia article just let me know as my knowledge of AVL is pre-beginner.
Wow, thanks so much! So kind of you!

I've had nothing to do with the wikipedia page and was surprised to learn of it's existence a few years ago, it's probably better for me to remain at arms length to keep it unbiased. In having a quick look this morning I see the logo is quite outdated and there are a couple of articles by Jack Wallen that might be useful:

New logo:
AVL-MXE-Waveform-O-FULL.png
Tech Republic (AVL-MXE 21.3): https://www.techrepublic.com/article/av ... come-true/

ZDnet (AVL-MXe-23.1): https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-linu ... -paradise/

Re: AV Linux MX Edition 23.1 (AVL-MXe) Released!

Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 11:58 am
by papilonaa
helo
this look great BUT.... for me, it's not a good idea to be so big, I cannot put it on a DVD and also could not put on a USB, it says too big....I literally cannot install it
what to do?