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Markus85 wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 10:13 am Is there an approximate releasedate for MX 25? Or will it just be released when it's done?

You can estimate based on this.
viewtopic.php?p=826362#p826362
I didn't bother to look up other past releases. The time frame last time might not be the same now.

Eadwine Rose wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 10:22 am It'll be done when it is done. :)

The peasants are revolting

be fair. the devs work hard and they are constantly tweaking and bettering your experience.

Adrian wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:46 am Really? To me this is pretty clear:

The KDE iso will default to wayland sessions. X11 sessions are also included.

How can somebody read from this "MX Linux will now only support KDE on Wayland"?

I hear ya.... some people stop reading halfway through though and the rest is white noise.

Personally I remember speed reading through the blog post and having to restart because I was tired and did not get it the first time but something felt off. Now assuming no one did any sneaky ninja edits.... this might be more likely the cause for the misunderstanding.... no one pays attention when they read anymore and only looks to key terms. Its even worse with the "media" class that increasingly fakes news if there is no news for the drama clicks.

And then a lot of people (even those that should know better) don't understand that you can easily change which display server to log into. This became obvious in the comments.

A lot of people are simply paranoid about X11 being killed off left right and center which probably also fed into the circus. Cortisone spikes from reading something you dislike causing you to only read the thing that caused the spike to begin with instead of what is actually there.

I think writing it the other way around with something like "While the KDE iso will still support X11 sessions it will initially default to wayland unless this changed by the user at login" would have worked better.

rambo919 wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 11:33 am

Eadwine Rose wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 10:22 am It'll be done when it is done. :)

The peasants are revolting

I have a feeling is not going to take long we are already building alphas that work fine, we just need test a bit more, slap the new art on top we should be ready.

Adrian wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 12:07 pm

rambo919 wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 11:33 am

Eadwine Rose wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 10:22 am It'll be done when it is done. :)

The peasants are revolting

I have a feeling is not going to take long we are already building alphas that work fine, we just need test a bit more, slap the new art on top we should be ready.

Ugh personally I can wait if need be, rather have it late but functional than rushed but broken.

It's just funny to me how eager everyone is to finally escape DB12.

Hear ya, we are not planning to release anything rushed and/or broken.

rambo919 wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 12:18 pm It's just funny to me how eager everyone is to finally escape DB12.

Two years is a long time in the software world and there are a bunch of updates that people have either waited patiently up until now to get pushed upstream or have had to contort their machines to run, through Flatpaks and AppImages and Nix, oh my.

Arch users don't have to develop this kind of patience. Debian users appreciate that brief two- or three-month window of time when they can apt-get something they want and the version installed isn't ancient. For one sweet moment, Debian is both relatively stable and relatively up-to-date. It's nice. It's understandable that folks are eager to have that experience again, however brief it may be.

DukeComposed wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:07 pm

rambo919 wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 12:18 pm It's just funny to me how eager everyone is to finally escape DB12.

Two years is a long time in the software world and there are a bunch of updates that people have either waited patiently up until now to get pushed upstream or have had to contort their machines to run, through Flatpaks and AppImages and Nix, oh my.

Arch users don't have to develop this kind of patience. Debian users appreciate that brief two- or three-month window of time when they can apt-get something they want and the version installed isn't ancient. For one sweet moment, Debian is both relatively stable and relatively up-to-date. It's nice. It's understandable that folks are eager to have that experience again, however brief it may be.

True... but I don't think there is another Stable-based Distro with the sheer number and variety of Backports that MX has, there is a pretty small list of potential things that may get missed and often a visit to the Repository request forum shortens that list further..

DukeComposed wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:07 pm

rambo919 wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 12:18 pm It's just funny to me how eager everyone is to finally escape DB12.

Two years is a long time in the software world and there are a bunch of updates that people have either waited patiently up until now to get pushed upstream or have had to contort their machines to run, through Flatpaks and AppImages and Nix, oh my.

Arch users don't have to develop this kind of patience. Debian users appreciate that brief two- or three-month window of time when they can apt-get something they want and the version installed isn't ancient. For one sweet moment, Debian is both relatively stable and relatively up-to-date. It's nice. It's understandable that folks are eager to have that experience again, however brief it may be.

The backports help too as well as MXPI in bringing updated software to stable.