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Types of Passwords
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:09 pm
by Zeno
Hi,
This is general but very useful question.
There may be many passwords from booting to encrypted Hard drives.
Please can someone shed light on types of Passwords used in securing PC with names and how to remove them.
Thanks
Re: Types of Passwords
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:20 pm
by CharlesV
what exactly are you asking?
Re: Types of Passwords
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:50 pm
by Zeno
Thanks for reply.
We use many passwords while using our computer. For example, we may assign a password that is needed at the beginning of the booting. In the same way we use many passwords at different stages of operation in computer.
So can you provide detailed information about the passwords used on different stages of operation. And how to remove them if they are applied.
Thanks
Re: Types of Passwords
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:54 pm
by CharlesV
cause asking the same question clarifies it more. I believe what your asking for is akin to hacking ... and is not allowed on this forum... or am I misunderstanding you?
Re: Types of Passwords
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:44 pm
by clampett
I'm guessing here:
I think you're asking if you could use the password to login then not type the same password again and again for updates, installs, settings, etc.
If I'm understanding you correctly, then that would be the same as giving full root access full time to the account which is not safe.
Re: Types of Passwords
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:24 am
by DukeComposed
Zeno wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:50 pm
So can you provide detailed information about the passwords used on different stages of operation. And how to remove them if they are applied.
Linux was designed to act as a time-sharing operating system which allows a single system to run multiple concurrent programs, even when launched by different users. Multiple user accounts are a basic component of a Linux system. They allow not only different people to use the same system, but for different services on that machine to run with different security privileges.
If you don't like using passwords, a multi-user OS like Linux may not be the right platform for you.
Re: Types of Passwords
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:44 am
by Zeno
Thanks all,
If Im not wrong.
First password comes before booting. What is it called? How to add / remove that?
Then system boots. Then it ask once more for a password so that you can start using programs. What is it called ? How to add / remove that?
Then if you want to add an encrypted Hard Drive, there you need to enter a password for that. What is it called? How to add / remove that?
Then, for example, if i want to install a program in the terminal? you need a password for that. What is it called? How to add / remove that?
I m not afraid of password. They should be there but I want Optimal passwords that can give me all the security i need. Not that everytime I keep on entering passwords.
I hope you got me.
Thanks
Re: Types of Passwords [Solved]
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:21 am
by Eadwine Rose
1 bios pass
2 login pass
3 encryption pass
4 root pass (or user, these days)
As for the rest I am not able to answer them all.
Re: Types of Passwords
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:21 am
by anticapitalista
Have you stolen that computer?
Re: Types of Passwords
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:29 am
by j2mcgreg
Zeno wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:44 am
Thanks all,
If Im not wrong.
First password comes before booting. What is it called? How to add / remove that?
Then system boots. Then it ask once more for a password so that you can start using programs. What is it called ? How to add / remove that?
Then if you want to add an encrypted Hard Drive, there you need to enter a password for that. What is it called? How to add / remove that?
Then, for example, if i want to install a program in the terminal? you need a password for that. What is it called? How to add / remove that?
I m not afraid of password. They should be there but I want Optimal passwords that can give me all the security i need. Not that everytime I keep on entering passwords.
I hope you got me.
Thanks
The gist of what you are asking is that you want MX and Linux in general to emulate Windows IE a password at log in and then freedom to do what you want. That's not going to happen.
Re: Types of Passwords
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:18 am
by Zeno
anticapitalista wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:21 am
Have you stolen that computer?
No dear, but your have a reason. I just gave so many passwords and encryption to be a security nerd. But now I think what is optimal. So I want to remove some of them but while googling i have to search the passwords by name. So...
Rest assured i havnt stolen it. Otherwise I know to remove Bios battery and then format every thing.
Thanks
Re: Types of Passwords
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:20 am
by Zeno
Thanks to all.
This community is very helpful.
Re: Types of Passwords
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:59 pm
by Mauser
I don't know the names of each passwords but I do know that they are there for security. Years ago I have seen a gentleman that goes by the name of Mathew Moore that has made Linux operate similar to Windows when it comes to passwords by removing these passwords on his Linux distro. I personally don't like that kind of password removable extreme but to each it's own which is one of the many things I like about Linux. In my case I am the only-one that uses my computer with the login password disabled with full disk encryption so I only have to enter the password once and not twice every-time I boot-up my computer.
Re: Types of Passwords
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:28 pm
by Zeno
Mauser wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:59 pm
I don't know the names of each passwords but I do know that they are there for security. Years ago I have seen a gentleman that goes by the name of Mathew Moore that has made Linux operate similar to Windows when it comes to passwords by removing these passwords on his Linux distro. I personally don't like that kind of password removable extreme but to each it's own which is one of the many things I like about Linux. In my case I am the only-one that uses my computer with the login password disabled with full disk encryption so I only have to enter the password once and not twice every-time I boot-up my computer.
Yes you are right. And if you name the passwords, then while installing you know where you are placing the password. Same case here but I have placed passwords everywhere and now I want it to be optimal. So I think I should remove Login password.
Thanks
Re: Types of Passwords
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:19 pm
by MXRobo
@Mauser
If I understand correctly, your encrypted login either "handles" your normal user login which might then "handle" "Passwords and Keys" (aka Seahorse, the GUI for gnome-keyring), thereby providing your browser keyring passwords; or your encrypted login bypasses your normal user login and manages "Passwords and Keys" itself.
I could easily be wrong, and I don't know this stuff, but I'm wondering if deleting the login password will cause issues with the browser keyrings, the way autologin can.
Re: Types of Passwords
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:23 pm
by DukeComposed
Zeno wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:28 pm
Same case here but I have placed passwords everywhere and now I want it to be optimal. So I think I should remove Login password.
I think the real question here is "Who are you trying to keep out of your system?" You haven't explained what your threat model looks like.
Re: Types of Passwords
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:46 am
by Mauser
MXRobo wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:19 pm
@Mauser
If I understand correctly, your encrypted login either "handles" your normal user login which might then "handle" "Passwords and Keys" (aka Seahorse, the GUI for gnome-keyring), thereby providing your browser keyring passwords; or your encrypted login bypasses your normal user login and manages "Passwords and Keys" itself.
I could easily be wrong, and I don't know this stuff, but I'm wondering if deleting the login password will cause issues with the browser keyrings, the way autologin can.
I don't know.