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Posted: **Thu May 18, 2023 12:22 pm**

Good morning everybody.

Since a few days ago my desktop appears incomplete: yes, Conky and Cairo-dock are there, but now I always see the original Wildflower wallpaper as background; moreover, there is no trace of the work files and folders I have there (and which I can access without problems with Thunar).

Could it be that I'm not exactly where I think I am, maybe in another "workspace" or something...?

Thanks in advance.
(Here below I copy my Quick Report.)
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Snapshot created on:
System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-23-amd64 [5.10.179-1] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-23-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: N/A wm: xfwm 4.18.0 vt: 7 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower September 18  2022 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Apple product: iMac11,2 v: 1.0 serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 13 
           v: Mac-F2238AC8 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Apple model: Mac-F2238AC8 serial: <filter> UEFI: Apple 
           v: IM112.88Z.005B.B00.1708080439 date: 08/08/17 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3 550 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem family: 6 
           model-id: 25 (37) stepping: 5 microcode: 7 cache: L2: 4 MiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 25536 
           Speed: 1509 MHz min/max: 1197/3192 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1509 2: 1477 3: 1485 
           4: 1484 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: 
           conditional, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: AMD Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5730 / 6570M] vendor: Apple driver: radeon 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:68c0 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: Apple Built-in iSight type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-1.1:3 
           chip-ID: 05ac:8502 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: 
           loaded: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.0x11.2") 
           s-diag: 582mm (22.9") 
           Monitor-1: eDP res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 103 size: 475x267mm (18.7x10.5") 
           diag: 545mm (21.5") 
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD REDWOOD (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.10.0-23-amd64 LLVM 11.0.1) 
           v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3b56 class-ID: 0403 
           Device-2: AMD Redwood HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5000 Series] vendor: Apple 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aa60 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-23-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5764M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe driver: tg3 v: kernel 
           port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:1684 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter 
           vendor: Apple AirPort Extreme driver: ath9k v: kernel modules: wl port: 2000 
           bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:002a class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: Apple Built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR HCI type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 
           bus-ID: 1-1.1.1:6 chip-ID: 05ac:8215 class-ID: fe01 serial: <filter> 
           Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: 
           hardware: no software: yes address: <filter> 
           Info: acl-mtu: 1021:5 sco-mtu: 64:1 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park 
           link-mode: slave accept 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 990.52 GiB used: 295.95 GiB (29.9%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD1001FALS-40Y6A0 
           size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD 
           rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> rev: 1D06 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 type: USB vendor: Generic model: Flash Disk 
           size: 59.01 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> 
           rev: 8.07 scheme: MBR 
           SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 350.84 GiB size: 344.26 GiB (98.13%) used: 10.8 GiB (3.1%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
           ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat 
           dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
           ID-3: /home raw-size: 572.42 GiB size: 562.36 GiB (98.24%) used: 285.15 GiB (50.7%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 maj-min: 8:4 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda3 
           maj-min: 8:3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 41.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 1199 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2519 lib: 1281 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ bullseye main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.cica.es/mirrors/Linux/MX-Packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list 
           1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free #Opera Browser (final releases)
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
Info:      Processes: 259 Uptime: 25m wakeups: 1 Memory: 11.67 GiB used: 2.57 GiB (22.0%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI

Posted: **Thu May 18, 2023 12:32 pm**

Sounds like the desktop isn’t starting.

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xfdesktop4 &

I think will restart it.

Posted: **Fri May 19, 2023 1:25 am**

Well sometimes the desktop messes up. and during an update that occurred the other day I Had the same issue.
hover on a empty space on the desktop
right click->Desktop Settings**
A Desktop Application will open
Click the tab->Icons
Click the check box *Show icons on primary display

If the button is already clicked uncheck the box and check it again.
You should do this with all issues, your setting in this Desktop Application including your background pictures, etc etc.

** the true name of Desktop Settings is: xfdesktop-settings

Please let this feed know it this helped. Thanks!

Posted: **Fri May 19, 2023 1:34 am**

Suggestion #2:
PS If you get; what I will call "The White Screen of Death" where nothing is showing up on your desktop including right click. This can be solved by opening the program, Display (xfce4-display-settings).
Then change your Resolution to something different. Click->Apply
screen will refresh -> Click-> Keep this Configuration.
Then again change your Resolution to your desired Monitor Size again. Click->Apply
screen will refresh -> Click-> Keep this Configuration.

And now your desktop will have right click and desktop functions will work again. You got back control after the first screen resolution but I wanted to get you back to where you where before.
Please let this feed know it this helped. Thanks!

Posted: **Fri May 19, 2023 2:53 pm**

I've tried the hints proposed but they does'nt work in my system... :-(

Posted: **Fri May 19, 2023 2:54 pm**

maybe xfce4-session. looks like all that is running is the window manager. do you have a panel?

Posted: **Fri May 19, 2023 10:17 pm**

OK this may seem extreme RESET XFCE Desktop Configuration files.

# Step 1
Open a Terminal
# Step 2 Backup your old Copy of your XFCE's config file
mv ~/.config/xfce4 ~/.config/xfce4.bak

# Step 3*** This will copy the Configuration files to your home directory.
cp -r /etc/skel/.config/xfce4 ~/.config/
# Step 4
log out and in again.

*** Step 3 is NOT required but XFCE will be in it's RAWEST form, with NO customization from the team of MX Linux. I would in my option highly suggest that you follow Step 3.

IF you are happy and want to delete the old backup configuration files. open a terminal and type

rm -fdr ~/.config/xfce4.bak

Posted: **Sat May 20, 2023 5:17 am**

I have followed your recommended steps, and the only change I see is that my side panel customisation has been lost.
I summarise the problem with my desktop: it does not show the background I specify (invariably it shows the default Wildflower wallpaper); the icons of files and folders stored in the Thunar "Desktop" do not appear; the right mouse button does not respond. On the other hand, Conky and Cairo-dock do work.

(Sorry for any inconvenience...).

Posted: **Sat May 20, 2023 9:12 pm**

No inconvenience please be patient I am looking for alternatives. Umm by change do you use ChatGPT on the computer that failing?

Posted: **Sun May 21, 2023 3:59 am**

--"do you use ChatGPT on the computer that failing?"

--No.

By the way: could you help me to restore my customized panel?

(Thank you for your attention.)

Posted: **Sun May 21, 2023 1:59 pm**

MX Tweak>Panel - - Affects all panels - - Restore backup panel configuration.

Posted: **Mon May 22, 2023 6:59 am**

OK restore panel Open a terminal and type:
mv ~/.config/xfce4.bak ~/.config/xfce4

Posted: **Mon May 22, 2023 7:17 am**

OK restore panel Open a terminal and type:
mv ~/.config/xfce4.bak ~/.config/xfce4

yes OK I am ready to let you know that I have searched the xfce forums and they know about the issue. And this has and is happening to some XFCE users. I have done everything that I can think of too. On how to restore your desktop to original condition. And at this time I am hoping that you made a back up before the crash and I would use that.

However if you do not have a backup well,

OK steps that may help you:
Step 1:
There's a temporary solution. Change wallpaper from solid colors to any image.

All other options are not suggested but left here for the MX Team to go over:
Step 1: did not reset Desktop
MX-tweak
Step 2: did not reset Desktop
CTRL+ALT+F2 logged in. Was Logged out as user in Desktop.
killall xfce4-panel
xfwm4 --replace
restart
Step 3: did not reset Desktop
CTRL+ALT+F2 logged in. Was Logged out as user in Desktop.
rm -fdr ~/.cache/sessions/*
rm -fdr ~/.config/
cp -r /etc/skel/.config/ ~/.config/
Step 4: create a new user (MX way)
When open up XFCE corners still did not work.
Step 5: VM MX Linux (sftp,ssh)
copied configuration file ~/.config/ to current
Step 6: Created new user
The new user is experiencing the same problems with XFCE.

Found this suggestion on the internet, did not do this but here it is. There was one more suggestion: In my case I somehow fixed it by reinstalling LightDM
But I am not sure of that one.

And the only other suggestion that I have is to install KDE or purge XFCE and reinstall and I definitely don't want to tell a new user to do that and it might not even work since I have not tried it. I did install KDE and it did NOT help XFCE.

Posted: **Mon May 22, 2023 10:43 am**

GOT IT!!!
open Window-Manager-Tweaks
AKA xfwm4-tweaks-settings

I unchecked and rechecked
or I checked and uncheck
every option on every tab.
and Then the desktop Started Acting normal for me.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2023 12:14 pm**

i've tried these tips, but without success. More about weird behaviour in my desktop: during the boot, a window terminal appears just before Conky and remain in the background!

Posted: **Mon May 29, 2023 5:58 am**

OK I just had the white screen of death just now. the background was all white and the icons where all gone.

Solution:
Open up MX Tweaks
Click the tab->Display
Change your Resolution to something different click apply. my background screen came back. But Icons still missing
Changed by to original resolution.

then changed xrandr from 1.00 to 1.05 clicked apply and my icons came back.
changed xrandr back to 1.00

Posted: **Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:29 pm**

These tips don't work in my system.

Anyway, why does appear a terminal window over the wallpaper during the boot process? It occurs after Conky and before Panel... Where can I configure wich applications run at start-up?

Posted: **Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:03 pm**

senador wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:29 pm These tips don't work in my system.

Anyway, why does appear a terminal window over the wallpaper during the boot process? It occurs after Conky and before Panel... Where can I configure wich applications run at start-up?

From the MX menu, Session and Startup. Application Autostart tab.

Posted: **Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:09 pm**

Bingo!

MX menu > Session and Startup > Sessions saved
... and delete the session that I apparently must have saved a few days ago without realising it.

Thank you everyone around here for putting me on the track!

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