The safe 3. profile configuration.?

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Re: The safe 3. profile configuration.?

#11 Post by Jakob77 »

Eadwine Rose wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:49 am I am the only one to ever use the computer, so, not common here. One user with pass. People who come to visit can get my Wi-Fi pass, and use their own stuff. I don't like other folks using my things so no-one gets to touch it, unless I am dead. ;)
Are you a common user.?
I guess the need is about what the computer is used for.
If I do a lot of serious computer work above a sudden intensity for some days I might change autologin to my serious profile in that time.

About guests, I don't let them use my main computer. I have another old one for it installed with snapshot in the kitchen. But since I have all the profiles in my main configuration I can also just use the guest computer with any profile I want.

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#12 Post by Eadwine Rose »

It's not common to have more than one user here, that is what I was referring to.


But yeah.. too hot here. Good luck with the profiles :)
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My rule is that guests can use my WiFi, but they have to bring their own device -- no exceptions.
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My point is that with a better configuration we can without any need for luck obtain more safety with less strict rules, more relaxation and more fun.

That is the benefit I am getting from it.

If it is not common among normal users (I am not thinking about moderators and others doing serious computer work 99% of the time) I can only recommend them to give it some thoughts.

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Re: The safe 3. profile configuration.?

#15 Post by Eadwine Rose »

You DO know about setting rules in the internet part, right? Modem, router, such.
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Personally, I have a guest wi-fi, which is segmented off my network - anyone that comes over and needs internet uses that. All machines in my house are off limits, unless they REALLY need one and then they get a test machine - reloaded to defaults. (And that is banged the minute they leave. ) But, no "general user" here :-)

My clients - I see everything from "help your self to my computer" to "sorry, I dont let people use it" . However, around 99% of the everyone I see or know HAS a device they use, and I would say probably 95% of everyone I see or know carries an internet connected device with them.
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Re: The safe 3. profile configuration.?

#17 Post by Jakob77 »

Eadwine Rose

Not much. In the modem towards the internet I leave it to the phone company.
And I live in the country so the risk of WiFi crackers is minimal.
Is there something in specific you think I have to know.?

I don't think it will change much because when I for instance are streaming a video something tells my brain that I have for sure left a part of the computer control to people I don't know or trust much. And I am doing it for plenty of hours. I am not saying it is a problem but I don't believe it is really good for safety. And I want it to be really good.

Also when I am on the computer I use the most, the internet is only half of the point.
No router can make me indifferent about who can see my screen when I boot up. That is a job for the autologin guest profile that I also use myself for non private stuff.
In the morning I can turn on my computer and make me a cup of tea. When I come back the computer is up and I can just do one click (I don't even need the keyboard) to start the news, weather and info about energy prices.
And no router can prevent one of my parkinson fingers or a cat paw from hitting Delete, but on my safe profile it is no big deal. If the whole user folder is erased I can just copy a new one from the profiles prototype.



CharlesV

Thank you for your statistic observations.
I have decided to start a new global trend by saying no to guests bringing iOS into my house. ;)
That is also about security and privacy but only concerning camera and mic.
I have no problem giving friends access to my WiFi for internet use but your post makes me wonder if that is too sloppy.?
Do you also forbid yourself to log on to other networks than your own.?
What does 'banged' mean.?

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#18 Post by Eadwine Rose »

Considering you are apprehensive of people using their own stuff and going.. likely.. places that you don't want them to go, yeah.. that is why I suggested that. Nothing to do with hackers.


"I have decided to start a new global trend by saying no to guests bringing iOS into my house."
Pretty sure the world will follow your wishes ;)
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#19 Post by j2mcgreg »

Jakob77 wrote:
What does 'banged' mean.?
Re-installed. Probably with a snapshot.
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Re: The safe 3. profile configuration.?

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Jakob77 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:41 pm CharlesV

Thank you for your statistic observations.
I have decided to start a new global trend by saying no to guests bringing iOS into my house. ;)
That is also about security and privacy but only concerning camera and mic.
I have no problem giving friends access to my WiFi for internet use but your post makes me wonder if that is too sloppy.?
Do you also forbid yourself to log on to other networks than your own.?
What does 'banged' mean.?
I am "a little" security conscious ;-/

I believe it is too easy for people to have issues with their machines / phones, so NO machines are allowed on my network, unless * I * put them there! ( I am in charge of and work routinely on over 300 computers so ... Sorry, security first!)

I actually have a "guest router" which is on the side my network and is segmented off. That router has wifi and is where guests can connect - there is nothing that touches my network!

I log onto NO other networks with my computers, with ONE exception - I have a special laptop, which sometimes I have to take into businesses. That laptop is locked down, only ever gets updates and is imaged before I go in, and is then cleaned and checked when I come out. (And I have been known to restore the entire laptop when I get home too - and yes it is linux - I ONLY use it to go into businesses and it is literally only a bare setup.)

If I travel, I only use my phone for internet and connect to it.

Banged = The machine reloaded 100%

I didnt used to be so critical about it, but years ago I had a buddy come over and he already had access to my wi-Fi for his phone. Approx 10 min after he connected, my system alerted me that there was an attack on my server - when I checked it I found his phone was where all traffic was from - we turned his phone off and later found it was hacked. That was the last time I allowed anyone on wifi or network.

Since around 2002 I have gone to extremes on security and since I recover machines that have viruses as well as do forensics on damaged machines, I have an entire work network that is segmented off from everything else and that is the only place where client machines connect.

All sounds overkill to the average user, but this is my work and have had some serious viruses on machines I have brought home... and I dont believe I can be TOO careful here.
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