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Black screen in usb live mode

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 4:16 am
by baumtoo
I have a brand new laptop, a clevo X170KM with intel cpu and nvidia gpu, i m not able to install MX on it.
The system boot in live usb with Grub, all fine, but every line i run from Grub i always end up in a black screen.
I tried with "ahs" version, even with the latest snapshot.

Other distro i tried, ubuntu, pop os and debian testing boot without issues.

Please help me to install this faboulos distro!

Thanks!

Re: Black screen in usb live mode

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 4:42 am
by JayM
I suspect the problem is that your Nvidia GPU is so new it hasn't been reverse-engineered and added to the Nouveau open-source video driver yet. Per https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/boot-parameters/:
nomodeset

instructs the kernel to not load video drivers, try this when
you get black screen with nVidia using the nouveau drivers
Then if you're able to boot your live USB and install MX Linux (you'll definitely need the AHS version with that 10th-11th generation Intel CPU) you can use MX Package Installer, Debian Backports tab to install the Nvidia 460 driver which Nvidia's website says supports your RTX 3080 GPU on the installed system.

Re: Black screen in usb live mode

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 5:11 am
by baumtoo
Thanks for the help!
I had already tried with "nomodeset" but no success.

Re: Black screen in usb live mode

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 5:28 am
by JayM
Try failsafe mode from the custom menu, second entry from the top, in UEFI mode (which yours should be) or one of the F-key menus if the USB is booting in legacy mode. (BTW the live USB dosn't boot with grub, it uses a different bootloader that supports all the persistence goodies.)

Re: Black screen in usb live mode

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 6:21 am
by baumtoo
Thanks, also in failsafe mode the system hang on a black screen : (
I'm in UEFI mode.

Re: Black screen in usb live mode

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 6:25 am
by JayM
Then I fear that you may just have to wait until later this year when MX-21 (based on Debian 11 Bullseye) is released, unless someone else has any ideas?

But first, the basics: if you downloaded the ISO file rather than getting it via bittorrent did you also download its md5/sha512 checksum files and check the integrity of the ISO? What did you use to burn it to a USB flash drive?

Re: Black screen in usb live mode

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 6:43 am
by baumtoo
I suppose too that i have to wait untill the next release : (
It's a pity!

I downloaded the ISO file with the direct link, i didn't check the integrity of the ISO, but anyway i tried with two different ISO (19.4 ahs & 19.4 ahs may snapshot) and in another (older) laptop, all boot and run in live mode in the older laptop, always black screen in the new one.

I burn all the ISO with the "MX Live USB Maker" from the older laptop with MX Linux installed obviously!

Anyway thanks for your time & support.

Re: Black screen in usb live mode

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:06 am
by JayM
Can you boot with another Linux distro that works, open a terminal and run

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inxi -Fxxxrza
copy the results, then in the full forum editor click the </> button in the toolbar and paste? (You may have to install inxi in that distro first if it isn't preinstalled.)

Re: Black screen in usb live mode

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:08 am
by Huckleberry Finn
If you still have one of those distros: In a terminal

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inxi -Fxxxza
please ... :)

Edit: Sorry, wrote simultaneously :)

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If it was just Intel, I'd say

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i915.invert_brightness=1

Re: Black screen in usb live mode

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:12 am
by JayM
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 7:08 am ...Or , if I'm not wrong, you can reach to desktop on live-session? If yes, "Quick System Info" from Menu,

If no (and if you still have one of those distros: In a terminal

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inxi -Fxxxza
please ... :)

Edit: Sorry, wrote simultaneously :)
(Great minds think alike! :happy:)

Re: Black screen in usb live mode

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:42 am
by Huckleberry Finn
Till then nothing to lose to try (one each time)

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nuke=xorg

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load=all

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bp=b9

Re: Black screen in usb live mode

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 8:37 am
by baumtoo
Is this enought?

Machine:
Type: Laptop System: SANTECH product: X170KM-G v: N/A serial: <filter>
Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter>
Mobo: SANTECH model: X170KM-G serial: <filter> UEFI: INSYDE v: 1.07.02TSAS
date: 01/11/2020
CPU:
Info: 8-Core model: 11th Gen Intel Core i7-11700KF
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GA104M [GeForce RTX 3070 Mobile / Max-Q]
Device-2: Acer BisonCam NB Pro
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: nvidia
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv display ID: :0.0
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1200 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1016x318mm (40.0x12.5")
Audio:
Device-1: Intel vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK driver: snd_hda_intel
Device-2: NVIDIA GA104 High Definition Audio vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK driver: snd_hda_intel
Device-3: Creative SXFI Headphone Audio type: USB driver: cdc_acm,hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid
Network:
Device-1: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200
Device-2: Realtek Killer E3000 2.5GbE
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Intel AX200 Bluetooth

Re: Black screen in usb live mode

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 8:50 am
by baumtoo
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 7:42 am Till then nothing to lose to try (one each time)

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nuke=xorg

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load=all

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bp=b9
Nothing to do, tried all, still black screen.

Thanks