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Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen SOLVED
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:00 pm
by barnaby
This just happens occasionally. I am running the latest MX version. Sometimes when I try to open a terminal screen, the screen goes black and there is just a message asking me to enter the password for logging in. I try entering the password, but it is not accepted. (I have the same password for logging in and for root.) Because I don't know what to do I have to resort to a hard shutdown. This has happened again just now. I have tried to research this, but so far no luck. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:03 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Please start with posting your Quick System Info.
Run it, hit paste in a reply.
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:19 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
Maybe you set a Master key for "keyring" (different than the others, say by accidental typing etc..) ..
do you remember you checked the option before to "save in the keyring" rather than "save for this session" ?
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:42 am
by barnaby
I did send my quick info yesterday, but I cannot see my reply. So try again.
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System: Host: <filter> Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-6-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0
Distro: MX-19.2_x64 patito feo October 21 2019 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
Machine: Type: Desktop System: Entroware product: Nyx v: ED03R6 serial: <filter>
Mobo: ASRock model: H310M-ITX/ac serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: P3.10 date: 09/27/2018
CPU: Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i3-8100 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Kaby Lake family: 6 model-id: 9E (158)
stepping: B (11) microcode: D6 L2 cache: 6144 KiB
flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 28800
Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800
Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages
Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled
Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled
Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics: Device-1: Intel 8th Gen Core Processor Gaussian Mixture Model vendor: ASRock driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0
chip ID: 8086:3e91
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1920x1200~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel UHD Graphics 630 (Coffeelake 3x8 GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.0
direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: Intel Cannon Lake PCH cAVS vendor: ASRock driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.3
chip ID: 8086:a348
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-6-amd64
Network: Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-V vendor: ASRock driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: efa0 bus ID: 00:1f.6
chip ID: 8086:15bc
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Device-2: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168NGW [Stone Peak] driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: efa0 bus ID: 02:00.0
chip ID: 8086:24fb
IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives: Local Storage: total: 232.89 GiB used: 65.77 GiB (28.2%)
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 250GB size: 232.89 GiB block size: physical: 512 B
logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> rev: 1B2QEXM7 scheme: GPT
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 230.60 GiB size: 225.99 GiB (98.00%) used: 51.56 GiB (22.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache pressure: 100 (default)
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos: No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/atom.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packagecloud.io/AtomEditor/atom/any/ any main
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1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list
1: deb http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode stable main
Info: Processes: 203 Uptime: 1h 04m Memory: 7.46 GiB used: 1.12 GiB (15.0%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5
Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36
Hope it works this time.
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:50 am
by dolphin_oracle
barnaby wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:00 pm
This just happens occasionally. I am running the latest MX version. Sometimes when I try to open a terminal screen, the screen goes black and there is just a message asking me to enter the password for logging in. I try entering the password, but it is not accepted. (I have the same password for logging in and for root.) Because I don't know what to do I have to resort to a hard shutdown. This has happened again just now. I have tried to research this, but so far no luck. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
how are you opening a terminal screen?
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:26 am
by Huckleberry Finn
You can simply test if you like:
"MX User Manager" from Menu and create a new user (just for now ...) and login with that for some time, observe ...
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:14 pm
by Stevo
Does this happen more often after resuming from a suspend?
Does switching to the "intel" driver in MX Tweak make any difference?
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:40 am
by barnaby
Answers to some questions. I have never used suspend.
I open the terminal screen using a keyboard shortcut, function key F4.
I have never had anything to do with a "keyring", whatever that is. Something to do with PGP?
What I am really asking is how to close down safely if this happens again. Especially as it does not accept my password.
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:44 am
by dolphin_oracle
Is it a full login prompt? Username and password?
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:38 am
by Huckleberry Finn
... Or, can you take a photo (obviously you won't be able to take a screenshot on pc, so, via phone etc.) and attach ?
P.S. What if you open the Terminal other ways? Does the same ever happen? From Menu .. or in Thunar "Open Terminal Here" .. Just to compare.
... And.. try to close that with Alt+F4 . If not again: Ctrl+Alt+esc (and an X will appear like a mouse pointer; click on that Terminal/password screen )
(In case they don't work: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace : New session .. Till then.. At least better than hard shutdown each time)
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:51 pm
by barnaby
Is it a full login prompt? I think so. the second line just says password and waits for me to enter my password (I have only the one) which it rejects. I will try one of the suggested inputs, Ctrl-Alt-Esc or Ctrl-Alt-backspace to see if that helps. Thanks.
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:33 pm
by dolphin_oracle
It sounds like for some reason you are switxhing.to the try console that is accessible usually with cntrl + alt + f4.
If that is the case, then switxhing back to your X session might be possibLe with cntrl+alt+f7.
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:30 am
by barnaby
If/when it happens again I will first of all try ctrl-alt-F7. I should have thought of that. Problem is that it happens at random, so I don't know if and when. Thanks for all the help with what to try next time it happens. It still seems a mystery as to why it happening?
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:20 am
by Huckleberry Finn
Yep. But if you were using (wrongly) Ctrl+Alt+F4 to open terminal rather than F4 ..
Shortly just use F4 for Terminal (but not Ctrl Alt).
Also try if opening Terminal from other ways causes any issue or not: i.e. from Menu .
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:28 am
by tony37
just a thought: maybe that prompt doesn't accept your password because you first have to enter the user name (and only then password)
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:30 am
by barnaby
I should open the terminal with just plain F4. Since I use Ctrl-Alt with other characters for some items (eg Ctrl-Alt-x to open Firefox, Ctrl-Alt-v for the Vivaldi browser) it is possible that I am entering Ctrl-Alt-F4 by mistake. Never thought of that. What would that combination do? (I am too scared to test it.)
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:36 am
by JayM
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Keyboard_shortcuts
Ctrl+Alt+F1, F2, F3, ... Switch to n-th virtual console
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:47 am
by barnaby
Further to my last post, I am pretty sure that I must have used Ctrl-Alt-F4 instead of just plain old F4. This would explain it. I am so used to having keyboard short cuts which start with Ctrl-Alt. Anyway, if it happens again I will try Ctrl-Alt-F7. Sorry for wasting peoples' time.
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:53 am
by JayM
Ctrl-Alt-F7 takes you back to your regular desktop? Who knew? When I tested Ctrl-Alt-F4 on my own system I ended up having to log in as root and type reboot to get out of the terminal.
Could you edit your top post #1 (the button next to it with the pencil icon) and add solved to the title? Thanks.
Re: Sudden Jump to Text Only Screen
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:33 am
by dolphin_oracle
JayM wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:53 am
Ctrl-Alt-F7 takes you back to your regular desktop? Who knew? When I tested Ctrl-Alt-F4 on my own system I ended up having to log in as root and type reboot to get out of the terminal.
Could you edit your top post #1 (the button next to it with the pencil icon) and add solved to the title? Thanks.
Cntrl+alt+F1 through F6 give you text consoles. cntrl+alt+F7 thru F12(?) give you any X sessions that are running (F8 and up will be empty, not even text, unless new X sessions are started, say with the switchuser features).