A Great Review/Deep-Dive into Debian 13

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A Great Review/Deep-Dive into Debian 13

#1 Post by Arnox »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9K3dqidho

I found this nice early review. A little fanboyish at times, but pretty good. Gives a great idea of what one should probably expect from Debian 13, and also just Debian in general.

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Re: A Great Review/Deep-Dive into Debian 13

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Debian 13, "Trixie" brings several notable enhancements, including
official RISC-V architecture support,
a new Linux kernel 6.12 LTS,
updated desktop environments, and
improved security features.
It also introduces HTTP Boot support and continues the transition to reproducible builds.

key changes (hopefully MX support team will comment on their impact on MX-25):

1. Architecture Support:
Debian 13 officially supports the RISC-V 64-bit architecture for the first time, allowing users to run Debian on RISC-V hardware.
It continues to support other architectures like amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, ppc64el, and s390x, according to the Debian Wiki.

2. Kernel and Security:
The distribution is powered by the Linux 6.12 LTS kernel, which offers improved hardware support and long-term stability until December 2026.
New security features include hardening against ROP and COP/JOP attacks on AMD64 and ARM64 architectures, notes the Debian Wiki.
APT 3.0 is now the default package manager, and HTTP Boot is supported.

3. Desktop Environments:
Debian 13 includes updated versions of popular desktop environments like GNOME 48 and KDE Plasma 6.3.
GNOME 48 introduces features like digital wellbeing tools, better notifications, and a battery health preservation tool.
KDE Plasma 6.3 offers improved support for graphics tablets, fractional scaling, and more user-friendly notifications.

4. Other Notable Changes:
Debian 13 completes the 64-bit time_t ABI transition, which supports dates beyond the year 2038.
It features continued work on reproducible builds.

The package base has been refreshed, with over 11,000 new packages and many updated ones.

The default unit for disk partitioning has been changed from MB to GB, according to Debian.

Debian 13 offers initial and restricted support for rescuing Debian installed to a btrfs subvolume, according to Debian.

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Re: A Great Review/Deep-Dive into Debian 13

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AA BB wrote: Tue Aug 12, 2025 11:26 am Debian 13, "Trixie" brings several notable enhancements, including
official RISC-V architecture support,
a new Linux kernel 6.12 LTS,
updated desktop environments, and
improved security features.
It also introduces HTTP Boot support and continues the transition to reproducible builds.

key changes (hopefully MX support team will comment on their impact on MX-25):

1. Architecture Support:
Debian 13 officially supports the RISC-V 64-bit architecture for the first time, allowing users to run Debian on RISC-V hardware.
It continues to support other architectures like amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, ppc64el, and s390x, according to the Debian Wiki.

2. Kernel and Security:
The distribution is powered by the Linux 6.12 LTS kernel, which offers improved hardware support and long-term stability until December 2026.
New security features include hardening against ROP and COP/JOP attacks on AMD64 and ARM64 architectures, notes the Debian Wiki.
APT 3.0 is now the default package manager, and HTTP Boot is supported.

3. Desktop Environments:
Debian 13 includes updated versions of popular desktop environments like GNOME 48 and KDE Plasma 6.3.
GNOME 48 introduces features like digital wellbeing tools, better notifications, and a battery health preservation tool.
KDE Plasma 6.3 offers improved support for graphics tablets, fractional scaling, and more user-friendly notifications.

4. Other Notable Changes:
Debian 13 completes the 64-bit time_t ABI transition, which supports dates beyond the year 2038.
It features continued work on reproducible builds.

The package base has been refreshed, with over 11,000 new packages and many updated ones.

The default unit for disk partitioning has been changed from MB to GB, according to Debian.

Debian 13 offers initial and restricted support for rescuing Debian installed to a btrfs subvolume, according to Debian.
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Re: A Great Review/Deep-Dive into Debian 13

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@AA BB Have you used AI to generate part of your post?

If so, kind reminder to review the forum rules: AI generated posts, code and respins are not allowed to be posted.
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Re: A Great Review/Deep-Dive into Debian 13

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AA BB wrote: Tue Aug 12, 2025 11:26 am
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Debian 13 offers initial and restricted support for rescuing Debian installed to a btrfs subvolume, according to Debian.
Please post all links if that's what you are referencing to. Some of us might want to read it at a later time.
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Re: A Great Review/Deep-Dive into Debian 13

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Eadwine Rose wrote: Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:44 pm @AA BB Have you used AI to generate part of your post?

If so, kind reminder to review the forum rules: AI generated posts, code and respins are not allowed to be posted.
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Re: A Great Review/Deep-Dive into Debian 13

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I have NOT used AI ... just web searches

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Re: A Great Review/Deep-Dive into Debian 13

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AA BB wrote: Tue Aug 12, 2025 3:08 pm I have NOT used AI ... just web searches
If any of that is copy / paste, you should attribute it with links. Other wise it could be seen as plagiarism.
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Re: A Great Review/Deep-Dive into Debian 13

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j2mcgreg wrote: Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:00 pm
AA BB wrote: Tue Aug 12, 2025 3:08 pm I have NOT used AI ... just web searches
If any of that is copy / paste, you should attribute it with links. Other wise it could be seen as plagiarism.
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Re: A Great Review/Deep-Dive into Debian 13

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Hmmm,

Don't people paste snippets and quotes on forums all the time? There are times for attribution indeed and I appreciate the measured response on how to handle AI generated stuff but can't someone post a few lines about something we're all interested in?

Have you ever seen how many carbon-copy blog posts there are about any given Linux topic? One article gets posted and later dozens of Blogs post it verbatim, I don't think anyone is getting hassled about plagiarism in these cases..
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