Can't upgrade kernel

[Stevo]

That looks OK for the wi-fi, but those "287 not upgraded yet" is not good.

I'd sure like to see the terminal output of the attempted upgrade. Those firmware messages are not errors, just harmless warnings. Note that there's a "W" for warning for each, not "E".

You appear to have a combined root and home partition, so there's lots of free space.

[Stevo]

Also, which kernel are you trying to add? Another user reported that the latest 6.1.0-35 from Debian required "nowatchdog" be added to the boot options in order to boot.

[linexer2016]

if I sometimes do a sudo apt && update and sudo apt-dist upgrade, the whole thing fails again.

Try this instead

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sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade 

Will do and report accordingly thanks S.

[linexer2016]

Also, which kernel are you trying to add? Another user reported that the latest 6.1.0-35 from Debian required "nowatchdog" be added to the boot options in order to boot.

Stevo,
I have tried various kernels all resulting in issues that manifest with a non-graphical boot necessitating as I've mentioned, a Timeshift restore.
I note your nowatchdog suggestion and will also try that and let you know how I go.

[linexer2016]

That looks OK for the wi-fi, but those "287 not upgraded yet" is not good.

I'd sure like to see the terminal output of the attempted upgrade. Those firmware messages are not errors, just harmless warnings. Note that there's a "W" for warning for each, not "E".

You appear to have a combined root and home partition, so there's lots of free space.

Stevo,
I'd sure like to give you the entire terminal output (how would you suggest I do that?). In regards to the combined root and home partition, when I set the system up I just followed the auto partitioning so never really got a chance to alter that. Now it is in place and to take advantage of the lots of free space, any suggestions on how to proceed would be welcome.

[linexer2016]

Hello again all,
Well, I've tried siamie's suggestion of sudo apt ... etc ... I believe I'd tried that before siamhie but what you were suggesting was probably in response to a typo I'd made earlier.
Anyway, on this occasion (and this has happened before) all the 287 not upgrade were upgraded however, the whole process reaches a conclusion with the following ...
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/hainan_smc.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/oland_k_smc.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/oland_smc.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/verde_k_smc.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/verde_smc.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/pitcairn_k_smc.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/pitcairn_smc.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/tahiti_smc.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/navi12_dmcu.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/raven_dmcu.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/dcn_3_2_1_dmcub.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/dcn_3_2_0_dmcub.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/dcn_3_1_6_dmcub.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/dcn_3_1_5_dmcub.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/dcn_3_1_4_dmcub.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/yellow_carp_dmcub.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/beige_goby_dmcub.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/dimgrey_cavefish_dmcub.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/vangogh_dmcub.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/green_sardine_dmcub.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/navy_flounder_dmcub.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/sienna_cichlid_dmcub.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/renoir_dmcub.bin for module amdgpu
...
And this is now before I reboot and fully expecting a non-graphical boot up and having then to resort to Timeshift. I will try the nowatchdog switch at boot up but I'm not sure it will fix the non-graphical interface. What happens (if past performance is any guide at least) is my bootup screens are in a lower res than normal and then stalls at the command line from where I have to invoke Timeshift.

[linexer2016]

Well I'm afraid I'm left in the awkward position of not being able to do a conventional/routine apt update/upgrade. This is because each time something that appears to be connected with the aforementioned missing firmware and/or the mediatek or realtek drivers, the system once rebooted loses its normal resolution and in fact won't boot into the graphical xfce environment. This of course means I have to then resort to Timeshift from the command line which succeeds in getting me back to the GUI but sans the upgrades I had intended. The only way I can upgrade is to judiciously select from mxpi pertinent upgrades (firefox et al) and stay away from anything that wants to build a new header, kernel or init.
There's been no further posts other than this my latest in this thread so if noone else has anything to contribute I will shortly close the thread. Wish there was an unresolved flag or at least a resolved flag as the solved flag isn't always appropriate.

[Eadwine Rose]

There is a new one now, 37, I upgraded to that without issues.

Your upgrade takes place in Synaptic or MXPI, you can run it again and get the terminal output from there.

[linexer2016]

Well ER, the contagion if I may call it that has now spread to a second platform where I run MX. Using the mxpi and just selecting upgradable packages (four were there) yielded that plethora of warnings about amdgpu files and an upgrade of the initramfs. Upon reboot I'm left at the command line and having (again) to resort to Timeshift. There must be something contained in the upgrade process that causes this but darned if I can determine what it is. Here's the output of the latest routine and I've edited for brevity the full missing firmware list which is extensive on this platform at least ...
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.5.0-1mx-ahs-amd64
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/radeon/R520_cp.bin for module radeon
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/radeon/RS600_cp.bin for module radeon...

[linexer2016]

I should add in here the QSI for this second platform. Now, through a process of elimination, it appears to me that whenever a new init is built the problem occurs. On this occasion the file that caused the collapse was intel-microcode.

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Snapshot created on: 20231112_1649
System:
  Kernel: 6.5.0-1mx-ahs-amd64 [6.5.3-1~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.5.0-1mx-ahs-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet
    init=/lib/systemd/systemd
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.3_ahs_x64 Libretto October 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux
    12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Dell product: Vostro 410 v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Chassis:
    type: 3 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Dell model: 0J584C v: A00 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Dell v: 1.0.3
    date: 06/20/2008
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core2 Quad Q9300 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn level: v1 built: 2008
    process: Intel 45nm family: 6 model-id: 0x17 (23) stepping: 7 microcode: 0x70A
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 256 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB
    L2: 6 MiB desc: 2x3 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1995 high: 1998 min/max: 1998/2498 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1995 2: 1995 3: 1998 4: 1995 bogomips: 19949
  Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: EPT disabled
  Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not
    affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: radeon
    v: kernel alternate: amdgpu arch: TeraScale-2 code: Evergreen process: TSMC 32-40nm
    built: 2009-15 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: HDMI-A-1
    empty: DVI-D-1,VGA-1 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:6779 class-ID: 0300 temp: 48.0 C
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: radeon
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: r600 gpu: radeon display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26") s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
  Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-0 model: LG (GoldStar) FULL HD built: 2016 res: 1920x1080
    hz: 60 dpi: 102 gamma: 1.2 size: 480x270mm (18.9x10.63") diag: 551mm (21.7") ratio: 16:9 modes:
    max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 Mesa 24.2.8-1mx23ahs renderer: AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 6.5.0-1mx-ahs-amd64
    LLVM 15.0.6) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
    chip-ID: 8086:293e class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Caicos HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6450 / 7450/8450/8490 OEM R5 230/235/235X OEM]
    vendor: ASUSTeK EAH6450 SILENT/DI/1GD3 driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aa98 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.5.0-1mx-ahs-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active tools: pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
  Server-2: PulseAudio v: 16.1 status: off (using pipewire-pulse) tools: pacat,pactl,pavucontrol
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    vendor: Dell RTL8111/8168/8411 driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1
    port: ce00 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek 802.11ac WLAN Adapter type: USB driver: rtl8852bu bus-ID: 3-4:2
    chip-ID: 0bda:b832 class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter>
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: wg0-mullvad state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 111.8 GiB used: 10.75 GiB (9.6%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS120G2G0A-00JH30 size: 111.8 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 0000
    scheme: MBR
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 23.27 GiB size: 22.74 GiB (97.71%) used: 10.75 GiB (47.3%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda4 maj-min: 8:4
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 862 MiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 42.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 48.5 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2207 libs: 1103 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brostrend.list
    1: deb https://linux.brostrend.com stable main previous
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mullvad.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/mullvad-keyring.asc arch=amd64] https://repository.mullvad.net/deb/stable bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirror.datamossa.io/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://mirror.datamossa.io/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 225 Uptime: 1m wakeups: 0 Memory: 2.9 GiB used: 1.21 GiB (41.8%) Init: systemd v: 252
  target: graphical (5) default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)