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Is it safe to use/install uv or pyenv to control different version of Python?

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I'd like to install a Python app in virtual environment (venv), but it uses Python 3.12, will I break my system if I install another version of Python and using uv or pyenv to control the version?
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Thanks so much for your comment/suggestion
Michael

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Re: Is it safe to use/install uv or pyenv to control different version of Python?  [Solved]

#2 Post by CharlesV »

I kind of answered this in your other topic ( viewtopic.php?p=813081#p813081 ) ... but basically my answer to this question is No! Do NOT do that!

Create a VM.. use it as you like, whip it into what ever python version you want / need and Dev there! Not only will you see what damage (if any) is happening, but it will NOT conflict with your current machine!
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Re: Is it safe to use/install uv or pyenv to control different version of Python?

#3 Post by michaelbr »

CharlesV wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:20 pm Create a VM.. use it as you like, whip it into what ever python version you want / need and Dev there! Not only will you see what damage (if any) is happening, but it will NOT conflict with your current machine!
Thanks so much for your suggestion, I'll do that.
AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 2500U, 16GB, 512 SSD, 1TB HDD, MX23.2
Thanks so much for your comment/suggestion
Michael

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