Firefox New CRAZY Terms of Use

[CharlesV]

I suspect that you didnt read their Privacy notice, and I find it VERY refreshing that they put transparency FIRST in their privacy notice!

transparancy....? Not at all.
But use these settings and you will get a safer browser
https://www.privacyguides.org/en/deskto ... s/#firefox

Precisely how I have run FF for years.

[rambo919]

Ah... this starts to smell more and more like political hitjob on Mozilla. "All your date are belong to us" is just regular legalese that they need for using what you type it in the address bar to bring in the result. They made the "mistake" to clarify that, if this forum has a term of service it should probably have the same verbiage that you grant the copyright of what you time to be used on this site globally (because the site is accessible globally) and that people can quote what you write without infringing your copyright. It's nothing nefarious, just legal speech that people either don't understand or misuse the potential lack of understanding to score points against an organization that they don't see aligned politically with them --- as your own post indicates. That doesn't strike me as unbiased honest commentary, it's FUD.

If this forum at any point officially clarifies it has the right to sell the data it collects as a term of using it's service.... you will have a lot less users.

[Arnox]

That part doesn't refer to Firefox, it refers to Mozilla services. I know that legalize sounds complicated to people, but that's pretty clear. If not, use common sense, do you really think Mozilla stops you from watching porn on Firefox?

There is nothing legalese about it. In https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/leg ... s/firefox/ it says, verbatim, "Your use of Firefox must follow Mozilla’s Acceptable Use Policy". It doesn't say your use of our services with Firefox, or just use of our services must follow the Acceptable Use Policy. None of that. And in the directly linked Acceptable Use Policy, it says, again verbatim, "You may not use any of Mozilla’s services to: ... Upload, download, transmit, display, or grant access to content that includes graphic depictions of sexuality"

Now, yes, it is true that the AUP says "services", and it is also true that Firefox would have an incredibly hard time trying to enforce this regardless, if they would ever do it, and it might also be true that this is just a legal mistake, but one thing you cannot say is that the AUP doesn't apply to Firefox, because the Firefox Terms of Use say directly that it does. And let's be quite honest here. It would not even be close to the first time a corporation made some completely idiotic and ridiculous anti-consumer move.

[Adrian]

it says, again verbatim, "You may not use any of Mozilla’s services to: ... Upload, download, transmit, display, or grant access to content that includes graphic depictions of sexuality"

It only requires you to understand the words to understand the meaning of the sentence. Do you know what "service" mean? Firefox is not a service. That part is about Mozilla services.

Now, yes, it is true that the AUP says "services"

Well, yes, exactly, because it's about Mozilla services not about Firefox.

FUD, FUD, and FUD, and people who don't understand the meaning of words.

[richb]

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